“What's it to ya?”

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#80447 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
Not to dispute the veracity of the claims, but was the signing by Michael verified by an independent source? Any chance he was coached or encouraged? Did he initiate these conversations?
If we can get gorilla's to carry on an intelligent conversations, does that mean theirs hope for mutt?
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Here's a little something I just pulled up:

http://bushmeat.net/michael-and-me.htm

I didn't read through it yet, but from what a quick glance tells me it says some stuff about it.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#80448 Feb 15, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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I didn't see where your link said humans and chimps are the same species.
Because I didn't say that you imbecile.

Humans and other apes are not the same species, however we are all apes, which is not a species in an of itself, but rather a classification within the order Hominidae.

"Ape" is a classification, NOT a species. If you miss this, you are just being deliberately obtuse and contrary.
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Pay attention to where it says "FIVE SPECIES" on the order Hominidae.

Hominidae--5 species.
Genera:(plural of genus)
Gorilla, Pan (2 species-Bonobo (P. paniscus) and chimpanzee (P. troglodytes), Pongo pygmaeus, Homo sapiens, Homo floresiensis, Homo ??.

Distribution is Asian and African, worldwide since Pleistocene.
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http://bioweb.wku.edu/courses/Biol459/f2000/p...

http://animaldiversity.ummz.umich.edu/site/ac...

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80449 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
<quoted text>so sick your lawyer alum on them!
Actually, one has offered to take the case pro bono. It's not just about money - it's also about image and branding.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80450 Feb 15, 2013
Sorry about the double post. I was at the post office and my phone said it didn't go thru.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#80451 Feb 15, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
Hi all! So, some of you may remember me talking about how much I loved my sorority in college because it wasn't like a stereotypical sorority. We encouraged individuality and I didn't feel like a "stepford sister".
Well, National just informed us that they are revoking our charter at the end of this semester. They say it is due to low numbers (the membership numbers are exactly the same as when I was active 15 years ago), poor communication and not being competitive on campus. Apparently they said something in another letter about "alternative lifestyles". We (the alum) are not taking that to mean homosexual, but that our sisterhood does not look like the blonde, cheerleader type that is prevalent in chapters in the South. They are intelligent, charismatic and philanthropic, though. Many of my sisters are now lawyers, executives, entrepreneurs and otherwise successful women both in their personal and professional lives.
I am livid and I'm not the only one. RU is a really big university and that sisterhood made it smaller and more manageable, especially for those of us who lived out of state.
/vent over
Any chance this is about drugs or underage drinking?
One of teh big southern state schools suspended all Greek life last fall over teh drinking/hazing partying issue. My younger girl went to school due west of you and their school had that as an issue a couple years ago.

This might be an effort by National to voluntarily do something that the University was about to impose on them.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

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#80452 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
Are you really this dense? To say that I cant say something because of how I will be perceived is the same thing as saying DON"T SAY THAT!
Your the one who is trying to muddy the point with "Well, yall can say what ya want but your gonna be percieved...."
Bottom line is both you and sam are trying to prevent me from using a word because it makes you uncomfortable. Your not physically trying to tape my mouth shut, you're trying to do it "Socially" But the end result is the same aint it?
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And I'm dense.

I've said over and over, if you feel the need to say it no one can stop you. It's a well known fact the term is offensive. You disagree or perhaps you are personally offended on how society views certain words and feel that someone is trying to take a word away from you.

It isn't me or Sam or anyone else taking this word away from you. We did not start the usage nor did we start the movement to stop its usage. You cannot be forced to say or not say words.

My personal choice is not to say that word and yes, to me it is offensive. I would not call a person of Mexican decent a wetback and I don't greet the people of Italian decent as wops. I would not call a Jewish person a kike. I wouldn't want to because I try not to offend people if I can help it, words (and others) have meaning and those words hurt people.

Toj

“Equality”

Since: Jul 12

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#80453 Feb 15, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
Hi all! So, some of you may remember me talking about how much I loved my sorority in college because it wasn't like a stereotypical sorority. We encouraged individuality and I didn't feel like a "stepford sister".
Well, National just informed us that they are revoking our charter at the end of this semester. They say it is due to low numbers (the membership numbers are exactly the same as when I was active 15 years ago), poor communication and not being competitive on campus. Apparently they said something in another letter about "alternative lifestyles". We (the alum) are not taking that to mean homosexual, but that our sisterhood does not look like the blonde, cheerleader type that is prevalent in chapters in the South. They are intelligent, charismatic and philanthropic, though. Many of my sisters are now lawyers, executives, entrepreneurs and otherwise successful women both in their personal and professional lives.
I am livid and I'm not the only one. RU is a really big university and that sisterhood made it smaller and more manageable, especially for those of us who lived out of state.
/vent over
I'm sure you're sad to hear that news. What is the name of that sorority?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#80454 Feb 15, 2013
If she said that, paired with other knowledge, she could become traceable, which is a bad thing,
Toj wrote:
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I'm sure you're sad to hear that news. What is the name of that sorority?
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#80455 Feb 15, 2013
Toj wrote:
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And I'm dense.
I've said over and over, if you feel the need to say it no one can stop you. It's a well known fact the term is offensive. You disagree or perhaps you are personally offended on how society views certain words and feel that someone is trying to take a word away from you.
It isn't me or Sam or anyone else taking this word away from you. We did not start the usage nor did we start the movement to stop its usage. You cannot be forced to say or not say words.
My personal choice is not to say that word and yes, to me it is offensive. I would not call a person of Mexican decent a wetback and I don't greet the people of Italian decent as wops. I would not call a Jewish person a kike. I wouldn't want to because I try not to offend people if I can help it, words (and others) have meaning and those words hurt people.
Yeah, Race, you just got smacked down by the Tojmeister, Toj.O, the Tojenator!!! Suuuuuck it!!! No, seriously, have a great weekend. May your beer be warm and your guns jam.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#80456 Feb 15, 2013
Whatever, you say there is a movement to stop usage of the word, but so far it has only been applied to white people, for blacks its still an acceptable word to use.

Oh, and not to state the obvious, but would not a movement to stop the usage of the word effectively prevent me from saying it?

Yanno is some contries words are actually outlawed, I have no idea how this is enforced but to me the concept of passing a law that makes it illegal to make a series of sounds is asinine, cause thats all words are a simple series of sounds. Its just noise and it can be tuned out or ignored. The only sound I am aware of that has any power at all, is the sound of a crying child. No other sound has any power at all unless you give it power.

Cheers

Toj wrote:
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And I'm dense.
I've said over and over, if you feel the need to say it no one can stop you. It's a well known fact the term is offensive. You disagree or perhaps you are personally offended on how society views certain words and feel that someone is trying to take a word away from you.
It isn't me or Sam or anyone else taking this word away from you. We did not start the usage nor did we start the movement to stop its usage. You cannot be forced to say or not say words.
My personal choice is not to say that word and yes, to me it is offensive. I would not call a person of Mexican decent a wetback and I don't greet the people of Italian decent as wops. I would not call a Jewish person a kike. I wouldn't want to because I try not to offend people if I can help it, words (and others) have meaning and those words hurt people.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me!

#80457 Feb 15, 2013
and may you be mistaken for the next pig to goes to market.

I am still better at this than you are porky.
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, Race, you just got smacked down by the Tojmeister, Toj.O, the Tojenator!!! Suuuuuck it!!! No, seriously, have a great weekend. May your beer be warm and your guns jam.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80458 Feb 15, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Any chance this is about drugs or underage drinking?
One of teh big southern state schools suspended all Greek life last fall over teh drinking/hazing partying issue. My younger girl went to school due west of you and their school had that as an issue a couple years ago.

This might be an effort by National to voluntarily do something that the University was about to impose on them.
Nope. Apparently they have been threatening the members for the past 3 semesters, but never indicated to the alumni that it was so serious.

Of course, they were giving us a hard time when I was VP Rush 15 years ago, but I'm not sure what has changed since then.

Their official reasons are:
General chapter management
The inability to recruit and meet campus total
Accountability
Interpersonal communications

The active sisters are shocked and crushed. They weren't given the option to recolonize, just had their charter revoked. They are concerned that the alum are blaming them. Some of us are planning on attending a chapter meeting on Sunday to show our support. They have ~70 active members. They may be one of the smaller sororities on campus, but they are not inconsequential.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80459 Feb 15, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure you're sad to hear that news. What is the name of that sorority?
I'm not going to share the name of the sorority here. I'm upset with this decision, but I still have to maintain some loyalty to my sisters :)

Since: Jan 10

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#80460 Feb 15, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
Their official reasons are:
General chapter management
The inability to recruit and meet campus total
Accountability
Interpersonal communications
Those seem rather vague. You'd think they'd have given actual specific reasons before now, so you'dh ave a chance to meet requirements.

Since: Jan 10

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#80461 Feb 15, 2013
delta delta delta can I helpya helpya helpya?

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#80462 Feb 15, 2013
triadelt! Everyone else has!

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#80463 Feb 15, 2013
Jess: I just am sad for your chapter. It seems like since you're not serving some greater purpose, the university has seen fit to disband you. I think many many many grads who are sorority members need to remind the university of how much tuition money the U received. I think that's just shitty.

My exbf went to MIT, and he joined a fraternity b/c it was cheaper than the dorms, but the relationships he developed have lasted to this day (he graduated from MIT in 1980). and that fraternity helpd create loyalty that has led to donations to the school's endowment fund.

So long as the sorority isn't asking for any money from the university, the university shouldn't have any way in a greek house's status, so long as major rules haven't been broken.

I'm on your side. Wish I could help!!

p.s. love your photo. Please continue to take them and make sure your boys have copies. they will love it later in life.1993199

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80464 Feb 15, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Jess: I just am sad for your chapter. It seems like since you're not serving some greater purpose, the university has seen fit to disband you. I think many many many grads who are sorority members need to remind the university of how much tuition money the U received. I think that's just shitty.

My exbf went to MIT, and he joined a fraternity b/c it was cheaper than the dorms, but the relationships he developed have lasted to this day (he graduated from MIT in 1980). and that fraternity helpd create loyalty that has led to donations to the school's endowment fund.

So long as the sorority isn't asking for any money from the university, the university shouldn't have any way in a greek house's status, so long as major rules haven't been broken.

I'm on your side. Wish I could help!!

p.s. love your photo. Please continue to take them and make sure your boys have copies. they will love it later in life.1993199
Actually, National is revoking our charter, not the University. They can request to recolonize in the future, but the University would have to accept (another sorority did that a few years ago - they are now very exclusive, but not at all the type of sorority that my sisters and I would want to be members of).

The biggest problem is that the girls who are currently undergrads will become alums at the end of the semester and receive no support from National or recognition from the University. The alumni are going to have to step up to provide more support, or at least be more available than in the past, until they graduate.

Thanks for the compliment on the pic :) I have to make more of an effort to get out from behind the camera. I'll try to take pictures at the Polar Bear Plunge next weekend. I'm meeting at least one of my sisters there ;)

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#80465 Feb 16, 2013
dahgts wrote:
A friend's neighbor was talking to her cousin. Cousin was telling her about remodeling her bathroom. Said she was going to have a shade put over her skylight to keep the drones from seeing her on the toilet, etc.
Member of edog's Club Paranoia?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworl...
dahgts

Chicago, IL

#80467 Feb 16, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I still say it's paranoia.
Look up and wave.

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