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Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#80349 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
From now on, only fat people can call another person "fat". For a skinny person to use that word is racist because "Fat" is a derogatory word and it implies that there is a distinct difference between fat people and skinny people, and skinny people feel themselves superior to fat people.
Hey dum dum, skinny and fat aren't races.

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#80350 Feb 15, 2013
Toj wrote:
Mimi! Scallops are my absolute FAVORITE but they have to be done correctly. Done correctly, they melt in your mouth and you need no butter for flavor but they're also good with butter. And alfredo. And a lot of things. They have this slightly sweet almost buttery flavor, better than lobster.
You'll know if you get a scallop done incorrectly when it's chewy. That means they overcooked it.
Nom, nom, nom. I love scallops.
Yeah, rubbery ones are overdone, or they used something else and called it scallops.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#80351 Feb 15, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Brazil nuts, I think.
Yes, it is Brazil nuts that are also referred to as N-toes.

Even as a kid when my dad used that term for those nuts, I knew better than to call them that.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80352 Feb 15, 2013
I dont get a lot of what you wrote.
NOBODY owns the damm word! That is stupidity talking.
To say that by blacks using the word is to take the bad connotations out of it??? TOTAL BS! They have been using that word for generations, but the connotation is still there every time a white person says it, to obviously that plan aint working!

And your idiot challenge is the same as sams! since you want to deny me the right to use the word, but cant, you will just encourage and support other people to beat me up when I do. How very civilized of you toj, you can get off your high horse now you hypocrite.

How about I invite you to my hood and start rapping about raping white women and killing the white man, and see how long you go unbloodied. Cause yanno nobody can control anothers actions and stuff and free speech, while free is not always a wise thing to excercise, and bla bla bla.
Toj wrote:
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Huh? Doesn't make sense to me.
I'm sure you have heard that some (not all -- b/c there are a LOT of black people who would never use the word) use it as taking ownership and turning it around in their world as a positive. You saying you haven't heard of black people using the word as a way to negate the bad connotations of it? By being white, that negates that thought -- can you understand it? Not saying I agree with the pople who say it. Black or white (or hispanic or whatever).
You come to Chicago, sit on the 95th El stop and you say the n-word all you want and you explain to them how it's okay to use. Or sit in the United Center as the Bulls play and say it. As I said before, no one can control another's actions but the consequences are there to deal with.
No one is actually saying "Don't say that" as in you can't utter those words. What people mean, I believe, is it's not WISE to say that and if you do you will be thought of in general society as a racist person.
Right or wrong that's how it is.
Do you disagree with the way it would be taken?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#80353 Feb 15, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
This one is going in the Mutt's Moronic Statements Hall of Fame.
No. There's too many others competing.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#80354 Feb 15, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>Yeah, rubbery ones are overdone, or they used something else and called it scallops.
You're right. I didn't think of that. There was something on the news about fish isn't being labelled corrected -- even to the stores and restaurants. They don't even realize they've been duped.

I think that's why there's such a movement, and restaurants making available, for source information for fish.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80355 Feb 15, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Where's everywhere else? from who? Other than at school or playing with other school kids after school, where and when were people singing this rhyme in any form? Guess I just did not grow up around open racists.
It's also a generational thing. My grandfather knew the original lyrics (and said them in public once the dementia set in - ugh). By the time we were kids, our parents had lived through race riots and forced integration. They taught us differently, even if it was sometimes a case of "do as I say, not as I do".

Racial tension still exists, but it is not as institutionalized or widely acceptable.

Since: Feb 08

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#80356 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
Gee, that that commercial they had on tv where the tiger got his toe caught in the mousetrap was obviously racist as well.
As far as I knew, the original saying was catch a tiger by the toe.
was not till Jr High that I heard any other rendition of it.
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My parents and grandparents, most of my aunts and uncles used the N... version. They were all born between 1885 and 1925. They were all racist bigots. All of them. Some of the stuff I heard them say when MLK was shot, and when integration was happening. They didn't think that those of colour should even be allowed on the same bus, much less in the same schools.
My mom and dad and the aunt and uncle who lived in CA learned to fake it in public, but their actions and words the second they were away from those of any different colour, or Jews, showed me up close and personal what racists are like.

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#80357 Feb 15, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Ok. forgive my deficit of racist references. WTF are you talking about?
Brazil nuts.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80358 Feb 15, 2013
I honestly dont know why you are personally attacking me about this! I am discussing what I believe to be a bias in our society, but apparently it is such a protected "hands off" subject that to even admit this bias exists is blasphemy.

I would not say to to squish, or her husband or her children, Why would I want to? The perceive racial implication aside, I have no cause to use the word. You may well challenge me to say the word "death" or "pornography" or "rape" or "molestation"
All of these are charged words, and I could say them if I wanted to, but I am not going to just to prove a point.

You all need to start admitting that a free society means that that, and unfortunately it chaffs sometimes. The N word had a long history and saying that only blacks can use it is just stupid. tolerating blacks who say it among themselves, saying it empowers them, and takes the sting out of the word is BS and it aint working as the conversations here so pointedly prove, so they need to come up with something else.

If blacks find the word so offensive then maybe they should do the exact opposite of what they are now, and insist that blacks NEVER use that disgusting "white" word in conversation with each other, that seems to me a better approach to take. It means taking the high road, it means your telling everyone else you find the word offensive while others may say it to us, we will never use it amongst ourselves. But hey, then they lose the right to use the word, dont they?
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
You want to use your precious N word?
Say it to squishy. See how far you get with her. She's a wonderful, sweet person. Have fun.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#80359 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
I dont get a lot of what you wrote.
NOBODY owns the damm word! That is stupidity talking.
To say that by blacks using the word is to take the bad connotations out of it??? TOTAL BS! They have been using that word for generations, but the connotation is still there every time a white person says it, to obviously that plan aint working!
And your idiot challenge is the same as sams! since you want to deny me the right to use the word, but cant, you will just encourage and support other people to beat me up when I do. How very civilized of you toj, you can get off your high horse now you hypocrite.
How about I invite you to my hood and start rapping about raping white women and killing the white man, and see how long you go unbloodied. Cause yanno nobody can control anothers actions and stuff and free speech, while free is not always a wise thing to excercise, and bla bla bla.
<quoted text>
Wow.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80360 Feb 15, 2013
No stupid their "groups" like irish and english

Try to keep up.
Sam I Am wrote:
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Hey dum dum, skinny and fat aren't races.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#80361 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
I honestly dont know why you are personally attacking me about this! <quoted text>
And we all know how much you detest personal attacks.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#80362 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
I dont get a lot of what you wrote.
NOBODY owns the damm word! That is stupidity talking.
To say that by blacks using the word is to take the bad connotations out of it??? TOTAL BS! They have been using that word for generations, but the connotation is still there every time a white person says it, to obviously that plan aint working!
And your idiot challenge is the same as sams! since you want to deny me the right to use the word, but cant, you will just encourage and support other people to beat me up when I do. How very civilized of you toj, you can get off your high horse now you hypocrite.
How about I invite you to my hood and start rapping about raping white women and killing the white man, and see how long you go unbloodied. Cause yanno nobody can control anothers actions and stuff and free speech, while free is not always a wise thing to excercise, and bla bla bla.
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Rage much?

I never, ever said you could not say it. As a matter of fact, I said go ahead and say it and was giving examples of places where you might not feel comfortable saying what you feel you have every right to say. I actually am saying, "Go ahead". Sory if you didn't get that.

I was giving my opinion of how it is perceived. Do you understand perception and the effect words can have on people's perception?

As for going to "your hood", why would I say about raping women? I would never say that nor agree to anyone saying that.

You're sounding like edog right now. I am not denying you any rights at all.

I'm trying to give you insight about how people may perceive you when you say certain words in certain places.

To pretend words do not have power is not genuine in my view.

Do you say that words have no power said in certain settings and certain places?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#80363 Feb 15, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow.
I know, right? Rage in full force. I don't understand the anger in discussing something like this. I just don't get the anger in the words. But whatever. I have to laugh at ragey people b/c they are not on the earth at that moment. They're letting anger color their words.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80364 Feb 15, 2013
And with all that said, I am done with this conversation for now.

If you think me a racist, so be it. Your wrong, but it's your right to think what you like. I have had this argument in the past and it always boils down to the same stupid idea that you cant say anything that has any possible negative connotation about a black person, because if you do you're a racist.

I thing obamma looks similar to curious george
That does not mean I am a racist.

I dont think blacks should be offended by me using the N word if they themselves use it.
That does not make me a racist.

I think everyone, no matter what color their skin should be required to keep their pants up to their waist.
That does not make me a racist.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80365 Feb 15, 2013
(since you asked)
OH, gee, thanks toj, I have absolutely no idea how my acts may be percieved, I must be as dumb as you cause I need you to tell me how other people will react.
Your entire post is one of sensless self justification all the wile trying to dress me down.

Pathetic.
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
Rage much?
I never, ever said you could not say it. As a matter of fact, I said go ahead and say it and was giving examples of places where you might not feel comfortable saying what you feel you have every right to say. I actually am saying, "Go ahead". Sory if you didn't get that.
I was giving my opinion of how it is perceived. Do you understand perception and the effect words can have on people's perception?
As for going to "your hood", why would I say about raping women? I would never say that nor agree to anyone saying that.
You're sounding like edog right now. I am not denying you any rights at all.
I'm trying to give you insight about how people may perceive you when you say certain words in certain places.
To pretend words do not have power is not genuine in my view.
Do you say that words have no power said in certain settings and certain places?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#80366 Feb 15, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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The right to not be fired based on sexual orientation.
The right to not be evicted based on sexual orientation.
In 30 states, it is legal to discriminate based on sexual orientation.
Married couples have over 500 financial and legal benefits in the state of Minnesota that unmarried couples do not. So denying a gay couple the right to marry is unfair, because they are being denied those benefits.
Number one, people are not getting fired and evicted for being gay. Not sure where you're getting your news from. Number two, nobody has a "right" to an apartment, nobody has a "right" to a job, and nobody has a "right" to marry.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

Location hidden

#80367 Feb 15, 2013
RACE wrote:
I honestly dont know why you are personally attacking me about this! I am discussing what I believe to be a bias in our society, but apparently it is such a protected "hands off" subject that to even admit this bias exists is blasphemy.
I would not say to to squish, or her husband or her children, Why would I want to? The perceive racial implication aside, I have no cause to use the word. You may well challenge me to say the word "death" or "pornography" or "rape" or "molestation"
All of these are charged words, and I could say them if I wanted to, but I am not going to just to prove a point.
You all need to start admitting that a free society means that that, and unfortunately it chaffs sometimes. The N word had a long history and saying that only blacks can use it is just stupid. tolerating blacks who say it among themselves, saying it empowers them, and takes the sting out of the word is BS and it aint working as the conversations here so pointedly prove, so they need to come up with something else.
If blacks find the word so offensive then maybe they should do the exact opposite of what they are now, and insist that blacks NEVER use that disgusting "white" word in conversation with each other, that seems to me a better approach to take. It means taking the high road, it means your telling everyone else you find the word offensive while others may say it to us, we will never use it amongst ourselves. But hey, then they lose the right to use the word, dont they?
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I've never had a black person use "white people" in a conversation to me other than pointing out the one white person among different races when trying to identify someone or in a context where we were talking about the different viewpoints of people generally and our thoughts. Always used respectfully. I've never had a black person I know call me "cracker" which would be more akin to the n-word I suppose but not quite.

Again in my view.

Who is telling you that you cannot use the words? I don't read anywhere here anyone telling you that you cannot use it except in the context of not using it if you don't want a bad reaction.

Are you saying you want to control other people's reactions to certain words? Because you can't. You can't control other people's reactions, including your weird reaction to this discussion.

If you want to change people's reactions, that's a whole 'nother ballgame.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#80368 Feb 15, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Really? "You can take the brother out of the ghetto..."?
Sure it's not for saying Obungo looks like Curious George? Good to know you're the authority on what makes a racist. And a homophobe.

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