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Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80252 Feb 14, 2013
Because I'm not black...
Because I'm not black, I have no right to say this word?
Because I'm not black I am forbidden from uttering this word?

Who is the person who gets to decide what words I can or cannot say simply because of my skin pigment?
Why am I denied the right to say a word that, by your own observation is used with impunity by others?

What exactly is the evidence between me saying a word and another saying the exact same word that makes it wrong for me to say it but not them?

If your going to read meanings into my use of words, am I allowed to do the same to you and others?
"Cracker", "White Bread". Can we put these on the list of Banned words that only a single group of people can use?

I think you all promote a myth that encourages segregation of society instead of inclusiveness.
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Oh, if you mean Jesse Jackson (?), the answer is: because you're not black.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#80253 Feb 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
The way I see it, either we can ALL use the word or NOBODY can. There is no protected class on words.<quoted text>
Thanks for your input, but that's not how it works. How Race sees it really isn't material, it's how society sees it. If you want to try to change society's mind, have at it.

And now I am off to a lovely dinner. Have fun polishing your gun. Hey, that could be literal AND a euphemism!

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#80254 Feb 14, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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Goes to show you can take the brother out of the ghetto, but....
Doosh

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80255 Feb 14, 2013
Hating you is giving yourself too much credit. You boor me with your idiocy.

The image is george is not a photo, it is a caricature, one that obamma strongly resembles. If that offends you or any other person too bad. I can see the resemblance. Does that mean I think obamma is a monkey? NO, so get over yourself. I am not trying to be insulting, just making an observation. If you dont agree with that observation fine.
Sam I Am wrote:
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Wow, you hate me so much you're really going to try to justify saying a black guy looks like a monkey. And this - "I did not say he looked like a monkey, I said he looks like curious george. Take away curious george's tail and you have obamma. Nice try to put words in my mouth though." - goes in your Top-10 imbecilic statements of all time. You didn't say Obama looks like a monkey, you said he looks like Curious George. Gee, what is Curious George? Oh, that's right! A monkey!
And you can say whatever you want (please please please show me where I said you couldn't), but others equally have the right to characterize what you say. Some characterizations are prevailing, some are not. The prevailing opinion of comparing the appearance of a black person to a monkey is that it is wrong and offensive. Again, please go up to the next black person you see, tell him/her that Obama looks like Curious George and let us know how that goes for you.
And please explaing why you get to say whatever you want, but I don't have an equal right to respond? Sounds like someone who can't stand behind his words.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80256 Feb 14, 2013
Crap, my car awning just Dorothy'd

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#80257 Feb 14, 2013
Soooooo don't want to get drug into this, buuutttt...

To a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual, we all look like monkeys (and apes...since we are apes) because we're all primates just as they are. We also look like lemurs, bush babies, etc., just more remotely, because they are also primates.

Being told that I look like a monkey would not be an insult. Monkeys are VERY intelligent creatures who are capable of pretty much all of the same thoughts and emotions of higher primates (apes...I reiterate: humans are apes) as well as learning new ways to do things because of their cognitive thinking ability.

Side bar: Edog, just in case you are gonna start some BS about humans not being apes or some anti-evolution crap...don't. Until you have some empirical proof of...anything...just don't even start with me.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#80258 Feb 14, 2013
Now, someone edit my freaking personal statement, that's due at midnight down from 2200 words to 750!

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#80259 Feb 14, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Jess, I hope you see this and weigh in! I'm curious as to your thoughts!
Which, the racial stuff or the tattoo law enforcement stuff?

My FIL has been in the hospital since Tuesday. He'll be in there at least another day because they are still running tests on him. I'm just catching up on today's posts now.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80260 Feb 14, 2013
Your right, no one can tell me whether or not I have the right to use the word. Yes it is freedom of speech. My right is unquestioned (except by people like yourself).

You tart, you think I will go out and start screaming the word, just because YOU challenge me to? Like if maybe I got my head punched in, I would see why only black people can use the word? You are a moron, worse, your a retarded moron.

I have no craving to use any word, except in discussions with you where I crave to call you every mean spirited thing I can think of. And even here, where I am safe from your physical attack, I still do not indulge myself this pleasure.

What is this significant portion you speak of? Who are they and what are they doing about it? More mindless lip speak from someone who knows nothing, but wants to make a point.
Bleh!
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
Angela already covered it, but I figured I'd go ahead and respond because you won't be mean to her, and I want to see how you unload on me for saying the same thing.
BECAUSE HE IS BLACK, you dummy. Are you really getting a craving to call a black person the N-word? Is it really important to you to fight for that right? Tell you what then, how about you make yourself the modern Rosa Parks and just do it. Next time you see a black person, call them the N-word. Freedom of speech, right? No one can stop you from saying what you want, right? If they don't like it, they can just shut their clam, right?
BTW, there is significant opposition in the black community to the word period. So if they don't like each other using it, then you sure as heck would not be well-received. But I digress, no one can tell you what to say. I forgot.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#80261 Feb 14, 2013
No, not how society sees it, but how a few whiners see it. Squeeky wheel getting the grease is all. The rest of society does not care what anybody says about anyone else, they just want to put in their 40hrs and collect their pay.

Hey, maybe they will have a double wide trough for you and your boyfriend to share.
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>
Thanks for your input, but that's not how it works. How Race sees it really isn't material, it's how society sees it. If you want to try to change society's mind, have at it.
And now I am off to a lovely dinner. Have fun polishing your gun. Hey, that could be literal AND a euphemism!
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#80262 Feb 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
Your right, no one can tell me whether or not I have the right to use the word. Yes it is freedom of speech. My right is unquestioned (except by people like yourself).
You tart, you think I will go out and start screaming the word, just because YOU challenge me to? Like if maybe I got my head punched in, I would see why only black people can use the word? You are a moron, worse, your a retarded moron.
I have no craving to use any word, except in discussions with you where I crave to call you every mean spirited thing I can think of. And even here, where I am safe from your physical attack, I still do not indulge myself this pleasure.
What is this significant portion you speak of? Who are they and what are they doing about it? More mindless lip speak from someone who knows nothing, but wants to make a point.
Bleh!
<quoted text>
Are saying that even though you can say something doesn't mean you should say it?

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#80263 Feb 14, 2013
RACE wrote:
Because I'm not black...
Because I'm not black, I have no right to say this word?
Because I'm not black I am forbidden from uttering this word?
Who is the person who gets to decide what words I can or cannot say simply because of my skin pigment?
Why am I denied the right to say a word that, by your own observation is used with impunity by others?
What exactly is the evidence between me saying a word and another saying the exact same word that makes it wrong for me to say it but not them?
If your going to read meanings into my use of words, am I allowed to do the same to you and others?
"Cracker", "White Bread". Can we put these on the list of Banned words that only a single group of people can use?
I think you all promote a myth that encourages segregation of society instead of inclusiveness.
<quoted text>
You have every right to use the word.

Go for it. But at least have ballsa nd use it around black people, then state your case to THEM.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#80264 Feb 14, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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Which, the racial stuff or the tattoo law enforcement stuff?
My FIL has been in the hospital since Tuesday. He'll be in there at least another day because they are still running tests on him. I'm just catching up on today's posts now.
The tattoo/cop stuff.

Since: Mar 09

United States

#80265 Feb 14, 2013
Wow, today is supposed to be about love!

My counseling session went really well. I'm at A's watching "Here comes the boom"

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

Location hidden

#80266 Feb 14, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>The tattoo/cop stuff.
Ok :) I wasn't gonna touch that other topic.

I think that as long as tattoos can be covered up by long sleeve shirts, there is no reason they should automatically exclude someone from joining the police force. Depending on the tattoos, that officer may not be right for a particular assignment, but that should be decided on a case by case basis.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#80267 Feb 14, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Wow, today is supposed to be about love!

My counseling session went really well. I'm at A's watching "Here comes the boom"
We are not feeding into the commercialism of this day.

Let me know what you think of that movie. It looks like it could be really funny (my husband likes Jim Carrey and Will Ferrell movies) or a horrible waste of time that you will never get back.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#80268 Feb 14, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
Soooooo don't want to get drug into this, buuutttt...
To a greater or lesser degree depending on the individual, we all look like monkeys (and apes...since we are apes) because we're all primates just as they are. We also look like lemurs, bush babies, etc., just more remotely, because they are also primates.
Being told that I look like a monkey would not be an insult. Monkeys are VERY intelligent creatures who are capable of pretty much all of the same thoughts and emotions of higher primates (apes...I reiterate: humans are apes) as well as learning new ways to do things because of their cognitive thinking ability.
Side bar: Edog, just in case you are gonna start some BS about humans not being apes or some anti-evolution crap...don't. Until you have some empirical proof of...anything...just don't even start with me.
The New York Times has an article on the genetic bases for some of the East Asian physical traits.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/15/science/stu...
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#80269 Feb 14, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Wow, today is supposed to be about love!
My counseling session went really well. I'm at A's watching "Here comes the boom"
Good. I am glad you followed through. I think you will find it very helpful to get over this hump. I did the same when my marriage broke up and even though my family was skeptical and not real supportive, I was glad at the time and in retrosepct even more so.

Since: Jan 10

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#80270 Feb 14, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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We are not feeding into the commercialism of this day.
Let me know what you think of that movie. It looks like it could be really funny (my husband likes Jim Carrey and Will Ferrell movies) or a horrible waste of time that you will never get back.
The guys i know who love wresting didn't like it. Too bad -- I really like Kevin James.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#80271 Feb 14, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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Ok :) I wasn't gonna touch that other topic.
I think that as long as tattoos can be covered up by long sleeve shirts, there is no reason they should automatically exclude someone from joining the police force. Depending on the tattoos, that officer may not be right for a particular assignment, but that should be decided on a case by case basis.
I see alot of tattoos on the hands or neck, places that are not easy to cover. The ones on the hands tend to be gang ID signs I am told. I have a degre of discomfort when I encounter those kinds of tats and tend to look around warily dependding on where I encounter the hand/neck tats.

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