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PEllen

Chicago, IL

#79987 Feb 10, 2013
Mostly for Tonka:
The Cider Summit was phenomonal. I talked to the organizer. By about 3:30, a little more than 1/2 way through the scheduled event, they had in excess of 3X the expected attendance. By 4 some of the tables were running out of the products with the better buzz.

They are looking at Atlanta, but Orlando was not on their radar. It sounded like the limits are more based on production capabilities of the breweries as much as the market for the product.

If you wanted to lobby for an Orlando location, I have the guys name and email.

There were no European breweries, manyUS for all regions that grow apples, a number of British/Scottish and I think Irish breweries and at least one New Zealand product.

Here are my picks

Angry Orchard Apple Ginger worth buying. I have bought otehr Angry Orchard brews and would have avoided their table, but lots of people were praising this one and it was good. When I went to teh liquor store, I found that it is only being sold in a multi12 pack. The sales guy said tehy couldnt make enough to sell on its own.

Black Star Farms Sirius Maple Dessert. High alcohol cntent tastes very close to a good Cream Sherry. We shared sips and tehn my BIL dumped some thinner cider he wasn't keen about in the cup and teh mix was almost better than anything poured. If you were going to mix it, I'd suggest one of the Crispin brews.

California Cider Co, Ace Joker- dry, not fruity or apple-y. Its good but just okay. Other people around liked their perry ( pear cider) though.

Citizen Cider Unified Press, moderate dry. My BIL liked this one. I tasted their bRose ( not a typo). I wouldn't spend a drink ticket on my own on this one. My sister didn't like it either. Kind of sweet in a Lancers Rose way.

Farnum Hill Ciders. Farmhouse. No bubbles at all. Very dry. I could tell it was apple based but no sufgar sweetness at all. This would be a good substitute for a dry white wine.

Orchard Gate Thistly Cross Whiskey Cask. This is very good. There is a peat-y quality to it and a good appple taste present without being too dry or too sweet. It does better chilled but it didn't last long enough to get to room temperature. I went back for seconds and went out today to buy some. Other people liked the Thistly Cross Traditional but I didn't taste it because after my second Whiskey Cask I was getting slightly fried. My liquor store had two or three botles on the shelf. I now own them.(The label calls it Glen-something or other whiskey cask)

Samuel Smith Organic. A bit sweet but good apple taste. I like it and will buy it as soon as I finish the Whiskey Cask.

Shelton Bros Zeffer Apple Cider from NZ. A little light, but much better than the Crispin line. My sister and BIL like things from NZ. They sai this reminds them on Vino Verte or a Prosecco.

Vander Mill Totally Roasted. very good. there is a very small hint of cinnamon, but this is definitely not a spiced cider. I went out Sunday to find this and bought a bottle.

Virtue Cider Mitten. awful. However, this is teh stuff we mixed with teh Maple Sirius that made such a fabulous mix.

Prima ran out before I got to front of line. However the sales guy at the liqour store was there at the end of the event and they apparently pulled out some bottles found in the back of someone's basement. Liquor guy got to taste that, said it was really good and we discussed whether cider would age well in bottles like wine. Apparently Prima will. The liquor store had a coupel varieties on the shelf.

And, standing at the far end of Navy Pier on a cold sunny afternoon, we turned and faced O'Hare to the northwest and my sister, BIL and friend and I raised our cups to Moon and Mimi, then pivoted to I-80 and saluted Union Maid and then... we drank.

Definitely worth breaking the diet for.I cannot remeber the last time I was that tipsy. Very glad we took the CTA.

The afternoon and the post were Sublime.

Cheers

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#79988 Feb 10, 2013
Great post, PE! I copied and pasted it into an email and forwarded it to some friends who love hard ciders. I hope your opinions help lead them to try some of the flavors you m entioned.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79989 Feb 10, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Mostly for Tonka:
Thanks for the review. My favorite is Woodchuck, and although they recently put out a ginger, I'd probably rate Angry Orchard's ginger higher. Interesting that they say they can't keep up with production. When I first had it, it was definitely a 6-pack.

As for my beloved Woodchuck, the stuff they brought(according to the website was just ok(farmhouse select) and downright awful(private reserve) in my opinion. I've had them both exactly once. The Farmhouse just didn't do anything for me and the reserve, I think was a chore to finish the 6 pack without pouring it down the sink. Their seasonal (literally, winter, spring, summer, fall) are where its at. I stocked up on several cases of winter to last me a while.

I've had crispin. Liked it, but not enough to buy more.
I like Ace. Have boufht them a number of times.

As for the rest, I'll have to save your review for the next time I'm out, looking for a new one to try.

I won't be lobbying them to come to Orlando. Maybe just use it as a good excuse for a mom and dad only trip to chicago or atlanta.
The most intersting thing about Orlando not being on the radar, there is a yearly beerfest out at Citywalk. Local radio guys were talking about it last year and said Woodchuck had a table and it seemed like the most popular table there.

“I Am Mine”

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#79990 Feb 10, 2013
PE, that guy seems to be full of shit. I just checked my local total wine's inventory( i can shop online and do store pickup), and they have Angry Orchard Ginger 6-packs available.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79991 Feb 10, 2013
Damn, PE, now you got me window shoppin. Lookin at all the different ciders at my total wine. Stuff i never noticed in the store. Web site even telling what aisle to go to.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#79992 Feb 10, 2013
Thank goodness for Angela and her Grammy-related Facebook statuses (stati?). I have time to kill to a) let the onion stink air out, because I refuse to go to bed with the slider open, lest Spider-Man break in (I browned ground beef & onions for my taco salad lunches this week... too late at night); and b) wait out the one beer I had to wear off before popping the nightly unisom.

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#79993 Feb 10, 2013
I treat FB like it's Twitter. : )

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#79994 Feb 10, 2013
In other news, I bought new sheets today. I'm hoping that will make a minuscule difference in my mental health.

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#79995 Feb 10, 2013
jmw, Nick's place is set up in a way that there is NO air circulation, so he has to shut bedroom doors before cooking meat and other similarly fragrant foods. I hate waking up in the morning and smelling what I cooked the night before.

Today I made chili from a recipe a coworker gave me. It calls for kahlua! I took only a couple/three tastes, and it was delicious. Last nihgt, I made cold tuna pasta salad for the first time -- YUM.

I'm set for the week, other than fruits and veggies.

And I'm SICK of being in the kitchen.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#79996 Feb 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
jmw, Nick's place is set up in a way that there is NO air circulation, so he has to shut bedroom doors before cooking meat and other similarly fragrant foods. I hate waking up in the morning and smelling what I cooked the night before.

Today I made chili from a recipe a coworker gave me. It calls for kahlua! I took only a couple/three tastes, and it was delicious. Last nihgt, I made cold tuna pasta salad for the first time -- YUM.

I'm set for the week, other than fruits and veggies.

And I'm SICK of being in the kitchen.
Kahlua chili recipe please!
:)

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#79997 Feb 10, 2013
Heh. I follow God on twitter:

There was a time when Jesus went around calling himself the Savior Formerly Known as Prince of Peace.

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#79998 Feb 10, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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Kahlua chili recipe please!
:)
I have it in my email! but your name is not popping up for me (it will on my work computer). Shoot me an email and I will forward it to you.

I've never used ANYONE'S recipe for chili, and this is outstanding.

“I Am Mine”

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#79999 Feb 10, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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Kahlua chili recipe please!
:)
ditto

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#80000 Feb 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I have it in my email! but your name is not popping up for me (it will on my work computer). Shoot me an email and I will forward it to you.
I've never used ANYONE'S recipe for chili, and this is outstanding.
Done. I had to get off my ass and go to the real computer (as opposed to the iPad, sitting on the couch) because my iPad doesn't "know" your email address.

While I'm here, I might as well tell you guys about my next door neighbor who went apeshit last night. I woke up at 3:45 am to the sound of someone's place being destroyed - it sounded like furniture was being thrown around. At first, I couldn't figure out if it was upstairs or next door, but when I walked out into the living room I could hear him clear as a bell through the wall, calling some girl an effing bitch, etc. I never heard another voice so I don't know if it was on the phone or in person, and I decided if it went on much longer I'd call the front desk. Luckily, he must have worn himself out.

I thought I'd be done for going back to sleep, but thank goodness I was wrong about that.

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#80001 Feb 10, 2013
Jmw - just emailed it to you. I will cut and paste it here for you tonka. Might need to do it in two rounds.

1. I used store-bought kahlua. I'm not making homemade liqueur!!!
2. I followed her recipe almost exactly. instead of 2 pounds hamburger, I used 1 pound, plus 1 pound of beef stew meat that I cut into smaller pieces.
3. I did use all three tbsp of cayenne, and I don't think heat lovers will think it's spicy enough. I did splurge and bought marjoram -- it seems to complement the oregano nicely.
4. I do not like kidney beans, so I used black beans instead.
5. Tomatoes: I'm not cutting/dicing tomatoes for chili, so I bought a big can of petite diced tomatoes, and one big can of crushed tomatoes.
6. I forgot the parsley and probably won't use it in the future -- fresh parsley is kind of a pain in the ass to find around here, and doesn't last long. I meant to use dried and forgot.

From my friend who sent it to me:

Here is my chili recipe. The way I make it, it is very spicy, but if you cook it on the stove with just 1 tsp cayenne, it is very nice.

Kahlua Kickoff Chili

2 lbs. Hamburger
2 medium onions, diced
2 cloves garlic, minced
1/2 Cup Kahlua (recipe below)
1/4 Cup fresh parsley, chopped
3 Tbs. chili powder
1 small can tomato paste
2 tsp. salt
1 tsp. dried cayenne pepper (for a hotter chili, I use three dried ground red chili peppers, or two to three teaspoons cayenne)

1 tsp. dried cumin
1 tsp. dried marjoram
1 tsp. dried oregano
2 cans (about 15 oz. each) red kidney beans, drained
2 large cans (about 30 oz. each) tomatoes, diced
1 green pepper, diced

Brown hamburger. Sauté onions in a little olive or vegetable oil. Toss everything together into a big saucepan, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to simmer for 45 minutes.

If I am bringing this to a potluck party, I mix it all together the night before, omit the boiling and simmering stage, and put it in a crockpot the next day. All morning on the high setting will cook it for lunch, and all day on the low setting will cook it for dinner. This method produces a spicier chili, as it steeps all night.


Kahlua

10 Tbs. Good quality freeze dried coffee, such as Kona
4 Cups water
3 Cups sugar
5 tsp. vanilla
3 Cups brandy

Dissolve the coffee and the sugar in the water. Heat to boiling, then reduce heat to simmer. Simmer for one hour. Let cool to room temperature. Add vanilla and brandy. Bottle in 4 sterilized empty Grolsch beer bottles.(I pour boiling water in them to sterilize them)

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#80002 Feb 10, 2013
This recipe made four quarts, I think.

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#80003 Feb 10, 2013
And while it seemed like a lot of onion, in the end, it isn't too oniony at all.

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#80004 Feb 10, 2013
My upstairs neighbor has a young adult son in music school, who lives with her at least part-time. I heard him playing Queen's "Fat bottomed girls" friday night, so I took him a box of GS cookies as a reward for playing cool music made before he wasborn. He told me his mom is out of town for a week.

She bathes in patchouli or sandalwood (I forget which smell is which), and she seems pissed off all the time and drops the F bomb a lot.

She's at a meditation retreat.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#80005 Feb 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
And while it seemed like a lot of onion, in the end, it isn't too oniony at all.
That's how my grandmother's stuffed pepper recipe is too. It makes so much, the onions don't overpower the taste at all.

“What's it to ya?”

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#80006 Feb 10, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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Kahlua chili recipe please!
:)
Ditto.

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