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#79699 Feb 5, 2013
Happy Birthday Angela!!!

“What's it to ya?”

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#79700 Feb 5, 2013
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>This. Neither does a legal document. It is love and care that make a parent.
ITA

I am very close to someone who got pregnant by a forcible rape. I know 100% that she was not screwing around on her husband. Husband knew the truth. THEY decided to keep the kid and never told ANYONE what happened, even though the kid was mixed race and the parents were the same race.

The kid knew (when age appropriate) that his dad and the sperm provider were two different people, but never knew about the rape. His parents wanted it that way. Naturally other people figured the mom was screwing around but the mom and dad didn't care what other people thought.

They cared about the baby. Period. His dad was his *real dad.* Full stop. Biology does NOT make a parent.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79701 Feb 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
Of course he has a right to question. The part that I disagree with is his decision to say that they are no longer his kids (saying "as if they were my own" means that he does not consider them his)
My take is that he said that after they cut him out. I don't fault him at all.

"The DNA test was done by mouth swab and when the result came back Mr Rodwell was stunned. He said:‘When I saw the letter stating that I wasn’t Laura’s father I just broke down.
‘When I phoned Helen we had an argument and she just said,“What did you expect.” She didn’t even say sorry.’
Mr Rodwell didn’t tell Laura but he described in court documents how her attitude changed towards him. He said:‘She didn’t come to see me and if I saw her in the street she would make obscene gestures with her fingers and on one occasion even kicked my car.’"

So he had the test done, found the truth, but DID NOT tell his daughter. We are back to poison mom.

And you have a problem with him suing his ex? Are you kidding me? So she should have no repercussions for the fraud she committed? Really?
Jess in NJ wrote:
Sure he should be upset with her, but if he raised those kids then they are still his.
He did not tell them they were not his. He did not end the relationship. That was his ex's doing. They no longer consider him their father. I find it outrageous that you are trying to put this on him.
Jess in NJ wrote:
You don't say sh1t like you have lost your chance to have children and grandchildren to a newspaper when you raised 2 children. Even if they are not talking to you right now, you just lost any chance you have with them and future grandchildren because you are holding biology against them.
Is he holding biology against them, or is he being realistic that they are estranged from him and therefore he has no chance of ever being a grandparent to their children?

Since: Jan 10

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#79702 Feb 5, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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He has a right to know. I would want to know. Not that it would change the way I felt about my kids, but I would want to know. It sounds like his kids cut him off, not the other way around. Also his kids are grown adults, not little kids. He can't force himself on them. They are probably so warped too, after living with that woman for so long.
Yeah, mom's an evil CU Next tuesday.
Who knows

Chicago, IL

#79703 Feb 5, 2013
A little birdie told me that RedheadwGlasses has a birthday today.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#79704 Feb 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> My take is that he said that after they cut him out. I don't fault him at all.
"The DNA test was done by mouth swab and when the result came back Mr Rodwell was stunned. He said:‘When I saw the letter stating that I wasn’t Laura’s father I just broke down.
‘When I phoned Helen we had an argument and she just said,“What did you expect.” She didn’t even say sorry.’
Mr Rodwell didn’t tell Laura but he described in court documents how her attitude changed towards him. He said:‘She didn’t come to see me and if I saw her in the street she would make obscene gestures with her fingers and on one occasion even kicked my car.’"
So he had the test done, found the truth, but DID NOT tell his daughter. We are back to poison mom.
And you have a problem with him suing his ex? Are you kidding me? So she should have no repercussions for the fraud she committed? Really?
<quoted text>
He did not tell them they were not his. He did not end the relationship. That was his ex's doing. They no longer consider him their father. I find it outrageous that you are trying to put this on him.
<quoted text> Is he holding biology against them, or is he being realistic that they are estranged from him and therefore he has no chance of ever being a grandparent to their children?
Oh, the mom is garbage. Don't get me wrong. And the man probably thought he did everything he could but he didn't. If someone tried to take his "real" kids away, would he just say "Oh, well I don't have any kids". That's where my thoughts are.

You don't stop trying. You don't say EVER that you don't have any children because he does. They would have come around. Those kids were going through, probably, hell and then some. Especially with a mother like that.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#79705 Feb 5, 2013
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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ITA
I am very close to someone who got pregnant by a forcible rape. I know 100% that she was not screwing around on her husband. Husband knew the truth. THEY decided to keep the kid and never told ANYONE what happened, even though the kid was mixed race and the parents were the same race.
The kid knew (when age appropriate) that his dad and the sperm provider were two different people, but never knew about the rape. His parents wanted it that way. Naturally other people figured the mom was screwing around but the mom and dad didn't care what other people thought.
They cared about the baby. Period. His dad was his *real dad.* Full stop. Biology does NOT make a parent.
Now those are solid people. Very centered. I don't know if I could be that centered after someone raped me and I got pregnant by it. Glad I won't find out. Those are the kind of people who should raise kids.

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#79706 Feb 5, 2013
You guys been following that story in Alabama about the dude that kidnapped a 5 y/o and took him in to his 8 by 6 bunker? Kid has Asperger's and ADHD. I couldn't help but think it was gonna end like "The Ransom of Red Chief".

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#79707 Feb 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>My take is that he said that after they cut him out. I don't fault him at all.

"The DNA test was done by mouth swab and when the result came back Mr Rodwell was stunned. He said:‘When I saw the letter stating that I wasn’t Laura’s father I just broke down.
‘When I phoned Helen we had an argument and she just said,“What did you expect.” She didn’t even say sorry.’
Mr Rodwell didn’t tell Laura but he described in court documents how her attitude changed towards him. He said:‘She didn’t come to see me and if I saw her in the street she would make obscene gestures with her fingers and on one occasion even kicked my car.’"

So he had the test done, found the truth, but DID NOT tell his daughter. We are back to poison mom.

And you have a problem with him suing his ex? Are you kidding me? So she should have no repercussions for the fraud she committed? Really?

Jess in NJ wrote, "Sure he should be upset with her, but if he raised those kids then they are still his."

He did not tell them they were not his. He did not end the relationship. That was his ex's doing. They no longer consider him their father. I find it outrageous that you are trying to put this on him.

Jess in NJ wrote, "You don't say sh1t like you have lost your chance to have children and grandchildren to a newspaper when you raised 2 children. Even if they are not talking to you right now, you just lost any chance you have with them and future grandchildren because you are holding biology against them. "

Is he holding biology against them, or is he being realistic that they are estranged from him and therefore he has no chance of ever being a grandparent to their children?
I'm not trying to put this on him. Two wrongs do not make a right. When your kid is a teenager and says that he hates you or disagrees with you, are you going to say "the hell with you" or would you say "you are my son and I will always love you?"

Sounds like he didn't have any sort of conversation with his kids when he got the results. You don't spring this on teenagers without counseling and expect nothing to change.

The estrangement was not necessarily permanent, but I guarantee it is now that he has bad mouthed the kids that were his to the newspapers.

Oh, and I don't agree with most lawsuits that are meant to punish people.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#79708 Feb 5, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Good morning! Today is my 45th birthday! I'm wearing super cute new black shoes, a cute new top, a new leather jacket (Dress Barn for the win!), and my five boxes of thin mints (Girl Scouts!) just got delivered to my desk.
LIfe is good.
Carry on.
Happy day to yoU!

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79709 Feb 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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I'm not trying to put this on him. Two wrongs do not make a right. When your kid is a teenager and says that he hates you or disagrees with you, are you going to say "the hell with you" or would you say "you are my son and I will always love you?"
Sounds like he didn't have any sort of conversation with his kids when he got the results. You don't spring this on teenagers without counseling and expect nothing to change.
The estrangement was not necessarily permanent, but I guarantee it is now that he has bad mouthed the kids that were his to the newspapers.
Oh, and I don't agree with most lawsuits that are meant to punish people.
Conversation? The way the story reads, he did not have an opportunity for a conversation much less a counselor. Again, HE did not relay the news to the kids. Ex did. Add to the fact that SHE had custody and he just found proof that they were not biologically his kids, I wonder what if he had any legal recourse to demand access to them.

And if this lawsuit was not meant to punish her, what was it for in your mind? She wronged him, and now she has to pay(a pittance). What exactly is unclear?
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#79710 Feb 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm not trying to put this on him. Two wrongs do not make a right. When your kid is a teenager and says that he hates you or disagrees with you, are you going to say "the hell with you" or would you say "you are my son and I will always love you?"
Sounds like he didn't have any sort of conversation with his kids when he got the results. You don't spring this on teenagers without counseling and expect nothing to change.
The estrangement was not necessarily permanent, but I guarantee it is now that he has bad mouthed the kids that were his to the newspapers.
Oh, and I don't agree with most lawsuits that are meant to punish people.
People should not suffer the consequences of their bad conduct?

Since: Jul 10

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#79711 Feb 5, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
You guys been following that story in Alabama about the dude that kidnapped a 5 y/o and took him in to his 8 by 6 bunker? Kid has Asperger's and ADHD. I couldn't help but think it was gonna end like "The Ransom of Red Chief".
I wonder how many people know the story(which was AWESOME, by the way).

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79712 Feb 5, 2013
Also keep in mind, thie DNA test happened in 2008. He's been cut out of their lives going on 5 years now. I doubt that a reconciliation was in the works before he phrased the situation as him not having any kids. He was accurately describing the situation they created by cutting him out. Further, if there was to be any reconciliation in the future, it would be after some self reflection on the part of the kids. They would first have to recognize how their mother poisoned them toward him. IF they came to that realization, his words to the paper would not matter, because they would know it was accurate based on their actions.

Since: Jan 10

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#79713 Feb 5, 2013
Toj wrote:
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Now those are solid people. Very centered. I don't know if I could be that centered after someone raped me and I got pregnant by it. Glad I won't find out. Those are the kind of people who should raise kids.
ITA. If I got pregnant via rape, I'd be having an abortion. Especially if I were married.

Since: Jan 10

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#79714 Feb 5, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
You guys been following that story in Alabama about the dude that kidnapped a 5 y/o and took him in to his 8 by 6 bunker? Kid has Asperger's and ADHD. I couldn't help but think it was gonna end like "The Ransom of Red Chief".
HA! I have been meaning to read about that story, but kept forgetting, so I knew minimal about it. I didn't know that detail. That's hilarious. I remember that story well!

Since: Jul 10

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#79715 Feb 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
The estrangement was not necessarily permanent, but I guarantee it is now that he has bad mouthed the kids that were his to the newspapers.
Oh, and I don't agree with most lawsuits that are meant to punish people.
I've seen people reconnect after some pretty horrible stuff, so there is still a chance for them. He handled it badly - there is no doubt about it, but the daughter is an adult so maybe they will get a chance to sit down and talk and he can apologize for unintentionally hurting her and her brother after they both have a chance to calm down.

Since: Jan 10

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#79716 Feb 5, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
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Conversation? The way the story reads, he did not have an opportunity for a conversation much less a counselor. Again, HE did not relay the news to the kids. Ex did. Add to the fact that SHE had custody and he just found proof that they were not biologically his kids, I wonder what if he had any legal recourse to demand access to them.
And if this lawsuit was not meant to punish her, what was it for in your mind? She wronged him, and now she has to pay(a pittance). What exactly is unclear?
And given how shitty the mom/exwife is, we can only guess as to how she delivered that news-- surely with the most hateful spin possible. Those kids have been poisoned against their dad.

Since: Jan 10

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#79717 Feb 5, 2013
Check this out at passiveaggressive notes.

be sure to scroll down a tiny bit to see the whole photo of the linen closet and how many wash cloths and towels they have (which is key to the story):

http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/2013/02...

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

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#79718 Feb 5, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
Oh, and I don't agree with most lawsuits that are meant to punish people.
And I don't agree with most prison terms that are meant to punish people, either!

(You can't be serious??)

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