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“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79371 Jan 31, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>And what is preventing you from postng them?
Its difficult to type with a knife and fork in your hands?

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#79372 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
<holding knife and fork in each hand, banging on table>
I WANT MY AMBY!!
Agreed.

I'm going into a meeting at 10:30. There had better be columns by the time I get back.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#79373 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
Look at this way Squishy,
some girl gets raped, so her father kills her. Calls it an "Honor killing".
You can make the argument that hey!
it's the way they live,
its their environment,
its tradition,
its written on some parchment....
But when it comes right down to it....Isnt it crazy to kill your daughter because she was raped?
Of course it's crazy. But what I'm trying to say is that the father does not see himself as crazy. And if you were to walk up to him and say "Hey, didn't you know it's crazy to kill your daughter because you think she dishonored you?" he would look at *you* like you were crazy. In his way of thinking what he did was perfectly normal.

We are not going to successfully change anything - honor killings to gang retailiation - if we simply write these people off as crazy and put them in jail or execute them. Without giving the society that breeds these activites something to replace these beliefs, we'll only be successful in creating martyrs.

OK, I hope that makes sense. I've only been interruped 10 times while trying to write that!

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79374 Jan 31, 2013

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#79375 Jan 31, 2013
And I am trying to say that how he views himself is of no consequence. He is crazy.
Murdering your daughter is crazy, no matter the "reasoning"

Murdering your daughter because it's tradition is just as crazy as murdering you daughter because the dog told you to do it.

Like I said, I understand your point, but I dont buy it, or agree with it.

If a person cannot understand that murder is wrong, then they are crazy, I dont care if they are a sociopath, a gang banger or goat herder.
squishymama wrote:
<quoted text>
Of course it's crazy. But what I'm trying to say is that the father does not see himself as crazy.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#79376 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
If a person cannot understand that murder is wrong, then they are crazy, <quoted text>
So in your universe the only people who do anything wrong are crazy? Either they know it's wrong and don't do it, or they do it because they're crazy and don't know it's wrong? Are those the two options? I forgot, no one ever does anything they know is wrong. Thanks for pointing that out. That was the gaping hole in my position that I was missing this whole time.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#79377 Jan 31, 2013
Sam, be careful the brush your trying to paint with is as wide as your butt.

Please stop making yourself look so stupid, its not funny anymore.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#79378 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
Sam, be careful the brush your trying to paint with is as wide as your butt.
Please stop making yourself look so stupid, its not funny anymore.
Your words from a couple days ago:

"Once again, sam skips the debate and launches right into hurling insults."

Apparently what's good for the goose isn't good for the beer-swilling redneck.
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#79379 Jan 31, 2013
Bad news: Ron Jeremy went to the hospital.

Good news: He and his moneymaker are going to be fine.

How he got to be a porn star I will never know. I mean, I know he's "gifted" but so are lots of other guys who are much easier to look at.

Since: Jan 10

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#79380 Jan 31, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
Bad news: Ron Jeremy went to the hospital.
Good news: He and his moneymaker are going to be fine.
How he got to be a porn star I will never know. I mean, I know he's "gifted" but so are lots of other guys who are much easier to look at.
You know why he's called the Hedgehog, right? And it's not about his looks.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#79381 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
And I am trying to say that how he views himself is of no consequence. He is crazy.
Murdering your daughter is crazy, no matter the "reasoning"
Murdering your daughter because it's tradition is just as crazy as murdering you daughter because the dog told you to do it.
Like I said, I understand your point, but I dont buy it, or agree with it.
If a person cannot understand that murder is wrong, then they are crazy, I dont care if they are a sociopath, a gang banger or goat herder.
<quoted text>
How can you say that his self-view is of no consequence? I just don't get how you think you're going to solve anything with that attitude.

And I'm also not understanding what you're not buying. You don't think that you should try and understand the motivation of these crazies so that maybe you could fine a way to stop said craziness?

I agree that murder is wrong; it totally violates the Golden Rule and I don't understand how others don't feel that innately. But just my sense of outrage at this inablity in others is not going to solve anything.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#79382 Jan 31, 2013
RACE wrote:
And I am trying to say that how he views himself is of no consequence. He is crazy.
Murdering your daughter is crazy, no matter the "reasoning"
Murdering your daughter because it's tradition is just as crazy as murdering you daughter because the dog told you to do it.
Like I said, I understand your point, but I dont buy it, or agree with it.
If a person cannot understand that murder is wrong, then they are crazy, I dont care if they are a sociopath, a gang banger or goat herder.
<quoted text>
Each culture define "crazy" in its own terms.

Go find a hard copy of the DSM, the handbook the mental health industry uses to make diagnoses. If you poke around in it, easpecially near the end you will find mental/psychological/psychiatr ic illnesses described that only exist in limted cultures: the last time I looked there was some syndrome that was limited to Pacific Islanders. My point is that there is no absolute when defining pathology. You need to factor your own bias into teh assessment.

I find honor killings abhorrent and offensive, but not crazy. There is a difference.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#79383 Jan 31, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
Bad news: Ron Jeremy went to the hospital.
Good news: He and his moneymaker are going to be fine.
How he got to be a porn star I will never know. I mean, I know he's "gifted" but so are lots of other guys who are much easier to look at.
What? I'm supposed to look above his neck?
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#79384 Jan 31, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>What? I'm supposed to look above his neck?
Hey, if us ladies expect men to make eye contact, doesn't Mr. Jeremy have the right to expect the same?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#79385 Jan 31, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
How he got to be a porn star I will never know. I mean, I know he's "gifted" but so are lots of other guys who are much easier to look at.
He wasn't always fat and old. I met him a couple years ago, saw him at a movie theater. Didn't shake his hand, though...
Sam I Am

Cedar Grove, TN

#79386 Jan 31, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>
You know why he's called the Hedgehog, right? And it's not about his looks.
Yeah, I guess I prefer a higher arousal-to-freak/humor ration than he provides.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#79387 Jan 31, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
"...some defendants have been given sentences of 25 years to life in prison for such crimes as shoplifting golf clubs...
I don't want people going to prison for 25 years for stealing pizza. THat's a stupid waste of money.
A set of golf clubs can run you upwards of over a grand. That is NOT "petty" theft.

And we aren't sending people to prison for 25 years for stealing a piece of pizza. We are sending them to prison for 25 years for stealing a car, getting out and burglarizing a house, getting out and raping a woman, getting out and THEN stealing a pizza. I'm all for that.

There was a tragic case here a while ago that involved a career criminal who's been in and out of jail most of his life. During his latest crime, while he was burglarizing a house, a 16 yr old girl walked in on him and he murdered her.

Habitual offenders need to be removed from society. Think burglary is a "non-violent" crime? Tell that to the people who've walked in on one.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#79388 Jan 31, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
BTW, gators don't come to mind when i think hunting. Probably cause your on a boat and that makes me think fishin.
Thought gator hunting was a rite of passage to manhood for Floridians.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#79389 Jan 31, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
Bad news: Ron Jeremy went to the hospital.
Good news: He and his moneymaker are going to be fine.
How he got to be a porn star I will never know. I mean, I know he's "gifted" but so are lots of other guys who are much easier to look at.
What demographic is the primary consumer of porn? Do you think they care what the dude looks like?

Since: Jan 10

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#79390 Jan 31, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> What demographic is the primary consumer of porn? Do you think they care what the dude looks like?
Given how Ron Jeremy looks, no.

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