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#78945 Jan 22, 2013
People drive where they don't know the facts, like whether it's a lake, or a big swelling in a river (which means the ice will be thinner). This guy drove over an area where locals knew the ice wasn't thick enough, because there's an underwater stream -- a curent.

And the dad had been drinking.

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#78946 Jan 22, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I don't know. It's common. Lots of folks do it. It was negligent especially considering a baby was in the car, but it's my understanding (not my area, tho ... So don't quote me on this) that you need to be closer to reckless to be charged with a negligent form of manslaughter.
Yeah, I know, it's a ver tough area of law. how can you treat it objectively? It's not really possible, not without going overboard in the other direction.

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#78947 Jan 22, 2013
And it's not like we can make a law that keeps minors out of cars that are driving across the ice (which people do for shortcuts in winter--but we have people who will do it within sight of open water) -- that would interfere with ice fishing. So there's not really anything they can do to prevent or decrease it, I think.

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Since: Feb 09

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#78948 Jan 22, 2013
Once again, sam tries to absolve her own crass behavior by comparing it to someone Else's. I guess in her mind, that makes her behavior ok.

Someday maybe sam will actually apologize or acknowledge that he is wrong, but I aint holding my breath.

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Since: Jun 09

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#78949 Jan 22, 2013
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>I'm being nasty? Really? IMSSO (in my self-serving opinion) my posts and the manner in which they (barely) escalated seem quite tame in comparison to some of the aggression and name-calling I see in here on a daily basis. The worst I did was to offer that he was (potentially) being obtuse as his initial response to me seemed to be nit-picky with the intention of inviting consternation, especially since others got what I was saying. If what I said was so bad, then I am certainly glad you did not have to (apparently) witness the sewage Race spewed at me.
What RACE throws at you is "personal" (I throw that in quotes because AFAIK you haven't met IRL). It is way beyond nasty and I don't want to get in the middle of that.

Tonka and I rarely interpret things the same way. He wasn't rude when he responded to your post, but you reacted like he was picking a fight when all he did was comment on your remarks as he understood them. I know he doesn't need me coming to his defense, but I just wanted to say (as I would have earlier if I had been online) that I read it exactly the same way he did.

I have been around here a while, though I don't post much anymore. I don't usually get mixed up in the name calling. This past year has been pretty rough for me and though I do read the board, I don't always have the desire to get involved in the drama :)

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#78950 Jan 22, 2013
Oooh, action tonight! Keep it going tomorrow when I need to be entertained at work.
;)

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Since: Jun 09

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#78951 Jan 22, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
And it's not like we can make a law that keeps minors out of cars that are driving across the ice (which people do for shortcuts in winter--but we have people who will do it within sight of open water)-- that would interfere with ice fishing. So there's not really anything they can do to prevent or decrease it, I think.
I know that ice fishing is much more a part of the culture there than it is here, but did you hear about the two teenagers in NJ who died last week? The problem is that people aren't paying attention to how cold it is (or isn't).

http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20130110/N...

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Since: Jun 09

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#78952 Jan 22, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
People drive where they don't know the facts, like whether it's a lake, or a big swelling in a river (which means the ice will be thinner). This guy drove over an area where locals knew the ice wasn't thick enough, because there's an underwater stream -- a curent.

And the dad had been drinking.
If he was drunk with his kids in the car, then throw his a$$ in jail and let him rot.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#78953 Jan 22, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
<quoted text>What RACE throws at you is "personal" (I throw that in quotes because AFAIK you haven't met IRL). It is way beyond nasty and I don't want to get in the middle of that.

Tonka and I rarely interpret things the same way. He wasn't rude when he responded to your post, but you reacted like he was picking a fight when all he did was comment on your remarks as he understood them. I know he doesn't need me coming to his defense, but I just wanted to say (as I would have earlier if I had been online) that I read it exactly the same way he did.

I have been around here a while, though I don't post much anymore. I don't usually get mixed up in the name calling. This past year has been pretty rough for me and though I do read the board, I don't always have the desire to get involved in the drama :)
Word (regarding the name-calling and drama). My earlier comment was a lame attempt to lighten things up.

I've had a rough few months too and I'm so grateful for the support and perspective I've gotten here. I'd hate to see our community fall apart.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#78954 Jan 22, 2013
In other news, A seems to be having doubts about her relationship. I'm embracing reverse psychology.

Also, Jasper bought a Jag today and I thought of Mimi.

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#78955 Jan 22, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
In other news, A seems to be having doubts about her relationship. I'm embracing reverse psychology.

Also, Jasper bought a Jag today and I thought of Mimi.
Did he buy Mimi's Jag?

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Since: Mar 09

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#78956 Jan 22, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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Did he buy Mimi's Jag?
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No but I wish he would so I could finish paying for the second one already I still owe $2K.

Since: Jul 10

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#78957 Jan 23, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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How is he to know the weakness of the ice? Driving on lakes and rivers is common?
He definitely should have known the weakness of the ice. He has lived in the area for years, and the place where they went through was a channel that often stays open all winter. I would find it hard to believe that he has ever driven, or seen anyone else driving, over that channel before.

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Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78958 Jan 23, 2013

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#78959 Jan 23, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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I know that ice fishing is much more a part of the culture there than it is here, but did you hear about the two teenagers in NJ who died last week? The problem is that people aren't paying attention to how cold it is (or isn't).
http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20130110/N...
Wow, Just read the article, so sad!

I will cut slack to teenagers -- because they're kids. But here we have adults setting up their fish shacks on thin ice, near open water, etc. Heck, people will be out on the ice fishing in the spring, when it's so warm out, fish houses are falling through thin ice on the same lake.

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#78960 Jan 23, 2013
This morning itw as a whopping 8 degrees out. And while mydefroster worked fine, no heat came out for my feet the entire ride. My feet were frozen when I got to work.

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#78962 Jan 23, 2013
Man builds colorful igloo to keep girlfriend's mom happy.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/...

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Since: Jun 09

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#78963 Jan 23, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
This morning itw as a whopping 8 degrees out. And while mydefroster worked fine, no heat came out for my feet the entire ride. My feet were frozen when I got to work.
That stinks :(

It was 11 degrees out when I dropped the boys off at school. I remember walking to school in the winter and surviving when i lived in Colorado, but I didn't complain that they let the kids go right inside instead of waiting for the bell :) I'll have to find some other character building lessons for them.

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Since: Jun 09

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#78964 Jan 23, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Man builds colorful igloo to keep girlfriend's mom happy.

http://www.treehugger.com/green-architecture/...
The igloo is really cool looking, but what did the girlfriend do during those five weeks? Her mom sounds like a controlling PITA and if they do get married, I hope they don't live anywhere near her (for his sake).

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Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#78965 Jan 23, 2013
I wonder what this smelled like...

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/sideshow/giant-go...

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