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Sam I Am

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<quoted text>I want everyone to buy my album cause they like the music I recorded. Being on the cover of the magazine for hitting the game winning shot is nice, but that's about ego. I'm gonna hit that game winning shot whether I make sport center or not. And that game winning shot happened at an event you paid money to come see. Me beating my wife is not going on at the arena. No one sold tickets to that. That's between me and my wife. And teh cops and the judge and the kids. But its really none of YOUR business. You pay for your ticket to come tothe game and watch me play. You buy the album cause it gets you pumped while you are on the stair master.
Um, yes, it is my business. Spousal abuse and failing to pay child support and slander are criminal acts. They are prosecuted in criminal court. The prosecuting attorney (paid with my tax dollars) in a criminal action represents the people of that jurisdiction. The offenses are a matter of public record.

You might pay for your ticket or buy an album for certain reasons, I buy mine for my reasons. I will not put money in Mel Gibson's pocket. If what you are saying was true, then no one would care that Manti Te'o's girlfriend wasn't real. Notre Dame wouldn't have paid for an investigator. There wouldn't be talk of his draft value being affected. He can still play football, right? That stuff does matter to a lot of people, and I like that it does.

Should no one care that Chris Brown smacks women around? "Who cares if he used Rhianna like a punching bag, I need something to dance to!" I want to live in a society where people's conduct matters. Where they are accountable for their actions and where poor behavior isn't excused simply because they are gorgeous or can jump high or come up with a good beat. I am not o.k. with the Chik'a'fil guy being a homophobe, and whether or not you agree with his position, I respect that many people didn't just throw up their hands and say, "But that's some good chicken!"

That's all I have to say. Either you agree or you don't, and I take it you don't. I think that not caring just fosters more of the same.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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i won't listen to Toby Keith, so I think that evens things up. ;)
No Toby Keith? What? I don't even really like country and I listen to Toby Keith.

How can you not like a song like this on a day like today?

Well all week long I'm a real nobody,
But I just punched out and its paycheck Friday,
Weekends here, good God almighty,
I'm gonna get drunk and be somebodaaaay!!

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Jan 18, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Couple glues 39,000 pennies to their bedroom floor. It looks pretty darned cool.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/weird/NAT...
It is cool. I'm way too lazy/chicken to ever do this but it would be neat to see.

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Sam I Am wrote:
Should no one care that Chris Brown smacks women around? "Who cares if he used Rhianna like a punching bag, I need something to dance to!" I want to live in a society where people's conduct matters. Where they are accountable for their actions and where poor behavior isn't excused simply because they are gorgeous or can jump high or come up with a good beat.
When did I say their actions should be excused? If Chris Brown broke the law, he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Same for Axl. Whether or not I buy an album has no bearing on that. You see it as giving money to an abuser. I see it as purchasing merchandise that I want.
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I am not o.k. with the Chik'a'fil guy being a homophobe, and whether or not you agree with his position, I respect that many people didn't just throw up their hands and say, "But that's some good chicken!"
I had some recently. That *IS* some damn good chicken. Especially with that Polynesian sauce. Damn! I might have to get some on the way home!

But as for his views, I don't care. Sure I disagree with him, but unless he is violating the law, which I pretty sure he wasn't, I don't care what his views are.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
yeah, no toby keith (I don't like his music but I do like quite a bit of country).

Chick fil-A: I'm as pro-gay as you can get, and I don't think I'd boycot them over this because my tastebuds and my tummy overrule everything. I haven't had it in 30 years (there's only one location here in MN and it's on the U of M campus), but it is DE-LISH.

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<quoted text>Speaking of endorsements, I saw something else that struck me as ridiculous to even consider. I guess one of his former sponsors has stated they will not go after him for the money they paid him cause it would make future endorsement contracts that more more difficult. My thought was, how could you even consider "goig after him" or think you deserve any of that money? You had an agreement that stipulated that he endorse your product and that was in the hopes that his endorsement would result in sales. I presume his endorsement, at the time, resulted in product selling. If they were to try to get money back from him, would they then give refunds to anyone who bought while he was their spokesperson? I doubt it.
That's just stupid(them, not you). I would guess they only said that in order to distance themselves from him, not because they thought they had a snowball's chance of getting any money back from him.

My stepson had a couple pro athletes who he really admired when he was a kid. I can't say I discouraged it, but I did encourage him to look at the whole person and not just what they did on the field and when one of them was in the news for something negative, we talked about that side of them as well. I have to say, I was really glad to have him look up to Robert Smith rather than Randy Moss, but the people he really considered heroes weren't celebrities at all. Frankly, those who choose to idolize someone because they are famous deserve to be disappointed when they inevitably find out their heroes have feet of clay.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
yeah, no toby keith (I don't like his music but I do like quite a bit of country).
Chick fil-A: I'm as pro-gay as you can get, and I don't think I'd boycot them over this because my tastebuds and my tummy overrule everything. I haven't had it in 30 years (there's only one location here in MN and it's on the U of M campus), but it is DE-LISH.
Oh yeeeeaaah
I'm out near Seattle at the moment, but I think I need to head over there whenever I get home and get reaquainted.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
I had to call the bank yesterady and got a guy in Cincinnati. I told him I was a huge reds fan as a kid. so we talked back and forth about the 1970s Reds. He said Pete Rose was and is a great guy, very approachable and friendly everywhere in town, and that Johnny Bench was the most standoffish of the big stars of that team, leaving kids crushed when he wouldn't sign autographs with the rest of the players.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
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I'm with you. What he does or doesn't do has absolutely no impact on my life.
At least he had the ball to admit what he did...

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Jan 18, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Yeah, he slapped stephanie around, plus a couple of others (I also believe alcohol was a key factor back then, and he's cleaned up since?).
All of that means I lose respect for him as a person, and I can still enjoy his music, but I don't know that I'd enjoy having him as a friend or dating one of my friends.
ITA. He's a douche and a half but the music is my only interest. If I *was* his friend (which I wouldn't be...) or otherwise part of his inner circle, I could see caring, likewise with Armstrong or any of the rest of them.

Like Jess said, if they make it so that their beliefs, activism, etc., can't be separated from their "artistry" then I might think about it. Otherwise, I just don't give a frick.

Kind of like worrying about asteroids as far as I'm concerned, i.e. there's not a single thing I can do to affect it, so why spend my precious little free energy worrying about something I can't change? Yanno?

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Sgt__Smith wrote:
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Oh yeeeeaaah
I'm out near Seattle at the moment, but I think I need to head over there whenever I get home and get reaquainted.
Near Seattle where?

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Jan 18, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>i won't listen to Toby Keith, so I think that evens things up. ;)
I love him and he puts on a damn good concert! But yes, he is another one who mixes his music and his politics.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
hence you stand of Vick and the NFL. I see your point, but dont share it.

How about politicians who sell their office? Do they owe the public anything? Campaign on one side of the fence, then jump it and sell your neighborhood to big business so they can build a nuke plant?
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>And that's where I would be a terrible public figure. I don't think he has any reason to ask the public for forgiveness. Make your deal with the cycling governing body. Make amends to the PEOPLE you wronged or lied to directly. After that, call it a day.
To me, Lance Armstrong is an entertainer. Cause that's what sports is. Its entertainment for the masses. Go out there an put on a show. It entertains me. Just like any other athlete, musician, actor, etc. What goes on behind the scenes is not my business. Lindsay Lohan is out there drunk driving? I don't care. That's for the law to handle. Robert Downey jr is on drugs? So what. He was great in Iron Man. His drug problem should be between him and the people in his life. Didn't he also go on Oprah to ask for forgiveness?
I do NOT believe the public has a RIGHT to know everything about every public figure. The public definitely has a thirst for it though.

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Sgt__Smith wrote:
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That's just stupid(them, not you). I would guess they only said that in order to distance themselves from him, not because they thought they had a snowball's chance of getting any money back from him.
My stepson had a couple pro athletes who he really admired when he was a kid. I can't say I discouraged it, but I did encourage him to look at the whole person and not just what they did on the field and when one of them was in the news for something negative, we talked about that side of them as well. I have to say, I was really glad to have him look up to Robert Smith rather than Randy Moss, but the people he really considered heroes weren't celebrities at all. Frankly, those who choose to idolize someone because they are famous deserve to be disappointed when they inevitably find out their heroes have feet of clay.
Robert Smith? Are ou kidding me? Christ if you've gotta look up to a Buckeye, why pick Robert Smith when Herbstreit's right there? That guy Smith is just so annoyingly unlistenable. Hell Lou Holtz is annoying as hell but at least he's entertaining. Robert Smith is about as entertaining as picking poppy seed from your teeth.

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RedheadwGlasses wrote:
He said Pete Rose was and is a great guy, very approachable and friendly everywhere in town, and that Johnny Bench was the most standoffish of the big stars of that team, leaving kids crushed when he wouldn't sign autographs with the rest of the players.
I've heard the exact reverse about Pete Rose from more than one person who patronized his bar/restaurant in South Florida.

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hence you stand of Vick and the NFL. I see your point, but dont share it.
How about politicians who sell their office? Do they owe the public anything? Campaign on one side of the fence, then jump it and sell your neighborhood to big business so they can build a nuke plant?
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Politicians most deinitely owe the people. They are elected by the people to be the people's voice.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Politicians most deinitely owe the people. They are elected by the people to be the people's voice.
I think some people view celebrities in a similar way -- as people who are supported by their public. The celebrity would not have a career if people didn't "vote" with their wallet or viewship.

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Jan 18, 2013
 
Happy hour with some work friends, awesome burger for dinner with A, and I'm home. Alone and unmolested. Win! I can do this.

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Neda, stay with me!

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Happy hour with some work friends, awesome burger for dinner with A, and I'm home. Alone and unmolested. Win! I can do this.

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