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“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#78827 Jan 18, 2013
Sgt__Smith wrote:
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That's just stupid(them, not you). I would guess they only said that in order to distance themselves from him, not because they thought they had a snowball's chance of getting any money back from him.
My stepson had a couple pro athletes who he really admired when he was a kid. I can't say I discouraged it, but I did encourage him to look at the whole person and not just what they did on the field and when one of them was in the news for something negative, we talked about that side of them as well. I have to say, I was really glad to have him look up to Robert Smith rather than Randy Moss, but the people he really considered heroes weren't celebrities at all. Frankly, those who choose to idolize someone because they are famous deserve to be disappointed when they inevitably find out their heroes have feet of clay.
Robert Smith? Are ou kidding me? Christ if you've gotta look up to a Buckeye, why pick Robert Smith when Herbstreit's right there? That guy Smith is just so annoyingly unlistenable. Hell Lou Holtz is annoying as hell but at least he's entertaining. Robert Smith is about as entertaining as picking poppy seed from your teeth.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#78828 Jan 18, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
He said Pete Rose was and is a great guy, very approachable and friendly everywhere in town, and that Johnny Bench was the most standoffish of the big stars of that team, leaving kids crushed when he wouldn't sign autographs with the rest of the players.
I've heard the exact reverse about Pete Rose from more than one person who patronized his bar/restaurant in South Florida.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#78829 Jan 18, 2013
RACE wrote:
hence you stand of Vick and the NFL. I see your point, but dont share it.
How about politicians who sell their office? Do they owe the public anything? Campaign on one side of the fence, then jump it and sell your neighborhood to big business so they can build a nuke plant?
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Politicians most deinitely owe the people. They are elected by the people to be the people's voice.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#78830 Jan 18, 2013

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#78831 Jan 18, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Politicians most deinitely owe the people. They are elected by the people to be the people's voice.
I think some people view celebrities in a similar way -- as people who are supported by their public. The celebrity would not have a career if people didn't "vote" with their wallet or viewship.

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#78832 Jan 18, 2013
Happy hour with some work friends, awesome burger for dinner with A, and I'm home. Alone and unmolested. Win! I can do this.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#78833 Jan 18, 2013
I could molest... I would be happy to grop.... I could make you moan...
I would be happy to offer my services....
j_m_w wrote:
Happy hour with some work friends, awesome burger for dinner with A, and I'm home. Alone and unmolested. Win! I can do this.
dahgts

Chicago, IL

#78834 Jan 19, 2013

Since: Mar 09

West Palm Beach, FL

#78835 Jan 19, 2013
Last night I copied & pasted Matilda's Lance quote from yesterday on a Facebook thread that was discussing him (without naming the source, of course). Fail on my part. Geez, people are touchy!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#78836 Jan 19, 2013
Yannow, we have to do something for the crazies: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/19/nyc-subw...

I don't know what but it there has to be a way to get those type of people institutionalized, on medication and functioning. With the laws now they have to do something awful (like this) to get any treatment.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#78837 Jan 19, 2013
I love all this science stuff: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/white-veins-...

How cool is it that we can explore that.

Okay -- end of this geek post.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78838 Jan 19, 2013
Toj wrote:
Yannow, we have to do something for the crazies: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/19/nyc-subw...
I don't know what but it there has to be a way to get those type of people institutionalized, on medication and functioning. With the laws now they have to do something awful (like this) to get any treatment.
Obviously, the only sensible thing to do is ban subway trains.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78839 Jan 19, 2013
Toj wrote:
I love all this science stuff: http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/white-veins-...
How cool is it that we can explore that.
Okay -- end of this geek post.
Yay. We may have found evidence that water once might have existed on a far away, desolate, frozen desert planet..

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#78840 Jan 19, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Last night I copied & pasted Matilda's Lance quote from yesterday on a Facebook thread that was discussing him (without naming the source, of course). Fail on my part. Geez, people are touchy!
Yesss!

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#78841 Jan 19, 2013
Toj wrote:
Yannow, we have to do something for the crazies: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/01/19/nyc-subw...

I don't know what but it there has to be a way to get those type of people institutionalized, on medication and functioning. With the laws now they have to do something awful (like this) to get any treatment.
You can't force people to take medication against their will. There are days that I feel there should be forced institutionalization, but then I worry about who would make that determination? Do you have to hurt someone before "they" lock you up? What about the eccentric people who will never actually harm another person, but make other people nervous because they are different? Can we lock people up because of crimes they may commit?

There have been several cases of people being pushes in front of subways recently. One woman in Philly survived, the two people in NYC died.

“What's it to ya?”

Since: Mar 09

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#78842 Jan 19, 2013
Jess in NJ wrote:
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You can't force people to take medication against their will. There are days that I feel there should be forced institutionalization, but then I worry about who would make that determination? Do you have to hurt someone before "they" lock you up? What about the eccentric people who will never actually harm another person, but make other people nervous because they are different? Can we lock people up because of crimes they may commit?
There have been several cases of people being pushes in front of subways recently. One woman in Philly survived, the two people in NYC died.
It's like this now because in the past people were corrupt. I mean if you wanted to get someone "out of the way" it really didn't take much effort. Perfectly healthy people could be institutionalized for life on the say so of an angry spouse, greedy kid, whatever. Now...we over compensate in the other direction.

I do think that people can be compelled to take anti-psychotic meds but it takes a court order, so there's a process. It might depend on teh particular state law though. In Cali it works like that (or did many years...20...ago) because they did that to my sister when she was "ill." FTR she wasn't "ill" she was angry, which again, there you go, someone force fed anti-psych meds who didn't need them. <shrug>

Here in WA it's almost impossible for the parent of a kid over age 15 to get anything done with OUT a court order. I can't remember why they made that particular law, but IIRC it had something to do with a parent trying to get their under-18 year old committed against her will when there was no reason...abuse of "power." <shrug again>

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#78843 Jan 19, 2013
In IL there is a Sexually Dangerous Person law. If you are convicted of a crime, not necessarily as ex crime I believe, the state can petition to have usu committed civilly, i.e., institutionalized. There is a pretty specific and rigorous procedure and the guys who are committed almost always appeal(which is when you can read the details), but they are kept locked up. They use psych tests and actuarial predictions.

I would like to see something similar for non-sex offenders to get some predictive incarceration.

There are ways around the old abuses.

It comes down to a balancing of the rights of the mentally ill to be in the least restrictive environment and the rights of the rest of society to be protected from a predictable harm.

It would not have stopped Adam Lanza because so far as anyone has said thus far, he was not on any professional's radar, but it might have stopped the kid in Tucson and the one in Aurora CO

Since: Jan 10

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#78844 Jan 19, 2013
What does tsti stand for?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78845 Jan 19, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
What does tsti stand for?
Texas State Technical Institute
Temple Sharey Tefilo-Israel
Tatung System Technologies, Inc
Total Safety Task Instruction
Too Small To Investigate
Texas State Traffic Institute
Teaching Science and Technology, Inc

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#78846 Jan 19, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
What does tsti stand for?
Too small to investigate?

Don't bother me with little things

You are making a mountain out of a molehill

I don't concern myself with trifles, etc

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