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#78719
Jan 17, 2013
 
Red, thanks for link, Very clever little man!

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Jan 17, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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Do you and your liberal friends support or oppose Obama's new stricter gun policies?
Would you be willing to speak out in criticism of your president?
(I rarely hear of criticism from the left, and when they do (Juan Williams) they get fired.) So I would really be interested to hear of liberals who oppose some of the president's agendas.
I haven't talked about gun control lately, since the shooting, with my friends. I'm opposed to most new gun laws, because I don't think they'll make any difference.

And Obama can't do much from his position re: gun control. With an executive order, the most he can do is impose mandatory waiting periods and other things like that, but he cannot change people's right to own to guns. He doesn't have the legal authority.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
Sublime1 wrote:
And it's very nice of you to take the views of the extreme right and impute that to all republicans. Do you really believe most republican candidates would even want to deny the woman the right to an abortion in the case of rape? That sort of speak only comes from the far right Reich-tards.
And yet they get voted into office. We have republicans in office who want to ban all abortion, including when the mother's life is in danger.

You say that the women you know wouldn't have an abortion, but you don't know that. No woman can even say "I will never have an abortion." Until a woman has been in that situation and is told "If we don't abort, then this pregnancy likely will kill you," she doesn't know what she will do.

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#78722
Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Notre Dame AD claijs Teo was duped in a catfishing scam. I had to google that one. Never heard of the movie or the tv show.
Stewart Mandel tweeted this and I agree.
"There's a generational gap. I can't comprehend that a kid would call someone his girlfriend who he's never met, but apparently people do."
I just googled it too, never heard of it either.

I agree with the tweet but I don't necessarily believe that the kid was scammed... I think there's a decent chance he was in on it to generate PR and sympathy and glory and all that.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
j_m_w wrote:
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I just googled it too, never heard of it either.
I agree with the tweet but I don't necessarily believe that the kid was scammed... I think there's a decent chance he was in on it to generate PR and sympathy and glory and all that.
I saw some stuff on line this morning, some investigative googling by some dude chasing the story, and its starting to sway me to the side of him being dumb, not complicit.

The sticking point for me is I while I can understand people having online only friends that they've never met or seen(hello imaginary friends), I cannot go the extra step to beleiving that anyone could consider someone they've never met to be their girlfriend. That does not compute.

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Jan 17, 2013
 

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We have republicans in office who want to ban all abortion, including when the mother's life is in danger.
Again, that is an extreme view and not the stance of the Republican party. There are liberals in office who wish to ban all guns. And tobacco. So is it fair to say that is a stance the Democrat party holds?

Republicans are pro life. Not because they hate women, but because they are opposed to the slaughter of innocent babies. I know, how horrible. Yet, even when we had a Republican president, House, and Senate, and a Republican dominated Supreme Court, there was never an amendment to ban abortion. The fears that squishy and people like her have are unfounded and irrational and not based on facts.

There are too many misconceptions about Republicans and they need to launch a campaign to get people educated if they want to win over the younger voters and regain control. Fact is, liberals have taken more of our freedoms than conservatives ever wish to. People need to understand.

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#78725
Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
I cannot go the extra step to beleiving that anyone could consider someone they've never met to be their girlfriend. That does not compute.
Same here, but it's not uncommon. Heck, there's a trend of young people on FB being "married" to another friend on FB... but they're not even dating.

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Jan 17, 2013
 

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edogxxx wrote:
And to Sub, I really think social issues such as gay marriage and abortion are used just to demonize the "evil, rich, white Republican" so to avoid the more serious matters such as liberty, debt, and future of our country.
It's better to avert attention than face problems head on.
Certain segments of the republican party play right into it, but yes, I COMPLETELY agree, democrats love it when one of these idiots start yapping about this stuff, because it distracts from the more serious issues our country faces and avoids serious discussions about them.

Why have a serious discussion about debt, with some women, when you can play the emotional card and completely win them over by talking about how some extremist Republicans are out their talking about legitimate rape, rape being an act of god, and how a woman is a sl ut for wanting to use birth control? So many women lap it up too. Really, maybe they should ask themselves how many men, republican, independent, democrat, or not, who have wives, sisters, a female friends view women in this manner. How representative is this? It's not. These aren't conservative values ... these are values of nut jobs and idiots, who just happen to be conservative.

Fortunately, the women I know are intelligent enough to realize these jack a$ses are just that, not mainstream, and they aren't going to fall for the democrats tactic of focusing on these things rather than the more serious issues. It's almost insulting that they think all women are so dumb and are just going to vote exclusively based on "team women", issues.

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Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>...edogg attributing zero tolerance stupidity to liberals at large?
I don't disagree that it is a two way street.

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Mister Tonka wrote:
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Stewart Mandel tweeted this and I agree.
"There's a generational gap. I can't comprehend that a kid would call someone his girlfriend who he's never met, but apparently people do."
No doubt!

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RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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And yet they get voted into office. We have republicans in office who want to ban all abortion, including when the mother's life is in danger.
You say that the women you know wouldn't have an abortion, but you don't know that. No woman can even say "I will never have an abortion." Until a woman has been in that situation and is told "If we don't abort, then this pregnancy likely will kill you," she doesn't know what she will do.
C'mon, as if republicans have a monopoly for electing idiots.

Marion Barry gets re-elected after smoking crack. Jessie Jackson gets re-elected despite being MIA, involved in an affair scandal, and subject to ethics violation probes.

F', I bet you anything, Hilary Clinton will probably have strong support to run for President in the next election, despite a damning report on how the state department was run under her, which lead to our diplomat in Libya being thrown to the wolves despite pleas for more security. She can't even manage the state department and many folks will think she's Presidential material.

No, I'm sorry, republicans do not have a monopoly when it comes to electing idiots.

There is the religious right aspect of the republican party and that is where most of these nut jobs come from get their support. There are a lot of fiscal conservative republicans who do not share these values, however. Very different animals.

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#78730
Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I saw some stuff on line this morning, some investigative googling by some dude chasing the story, and its starting to sway me to the side of him being dumb, not complicit.
The sticking point for me is I while I can understand people having online only friends that they've never met or seen(hello imaginary friends), I cannot go the extra step to beleiving that anyone could consider someone they've never met to be their girlfriend. That does not compute.
Fantasy football. Fantasy girlfriend. Same thing.
At least he was practicing safe sex.

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#78731
Jan 17, 2013
 
So I saw this online a few weeks ago and it came up at work today, so I decided to have a little fun and give my rule by rule commentary on the mom who gave her son an iPhone and 18 rules.
Here are the rules:

1. It is my phone. I bought it. I pay for it. I am loaning it to you. Aren't I the greatest?

2. I will always know the password

3. If it rings, answer it. It is a phone. Say hello, use your manners. Do not ever ignore a phone call if the screen reads "Mom" or "Dad". Not ever.

4. Hand the phone to one of your parents promptly at 7:30pm every school night & every weekend night at 9:00pm. It will be shut off for the night and turned on again at 7:30am. If you would not make a call to someone's land line, wherein their parents may answer first, then do not call or text. Listen to those instincts and respect other families like we would like to be respected.

5. It does not go to school with you. Have a conversation with the people you text in person. It's a life skill.*Half days, field trips and after school activities will require special consideration.

6. If it falls into the toilet, smashes on the ground, or vanishes into thin air, you are responsible for the replacement costs or repairs. Mow a lawn, babysit, stash some birthday money. It will happen, you should be prepared.

7. Do not use this technology to lie, fool, or deceive another human being. Do not involve yourself in conversations that are hurtful to others. Be a good friend first or stay the hell out of the crossfire.

8. Do not text, email, or say anything through this device you would not say in person.

9. Do not text, email, or say anything to someone that you would not say out loud with their parents in the room. Censor yourself.

10. No porn. Search the web for information you would openly share with me. If you have a question about anything, ask a person ? preferably me or your father.

11. Turn it off, silence it, put it away in public. Especially in a restaurant, at the movies, or while speaking with another human being. You are not a rude person; do not allow the iPhone to change that.

12. Do not send or receive pictures of your private parts or anyone else's private parts. Don't laugh. Someday you will be tempted to do this despite your high intelligence. It is risky and could ruin your teenage/college/adult life. It is always a bad idea. Cyberspace is vast and more powerful than you. And it is hard to make anything of this magnitude disappear -- including a bad reputation.

13. Don't take a zillion pictures and videos. There is no need to document everything. Live your experiences. They will be stored in your memory for eternity.

14. Leave your phone home sometimes and feel safe and secure in that decision. It is not alive or an extension of you. Learn to live without it. Be bigger and more powerful than FOMO -- fear of missing out.

15. Download music that is new or classic or different than the millions of your peers that listen to the same exact stuff. Your generation has access to music like never before in history. Take advantage of that gift. Expand your horizons.

16. Play a game with words or puzzles or brain teasers every now and then.

17. Keep your eyes up. See the world happening around you. Stare out a window. Listen to the birds. Take a walk. Talk to a stranger. Wonder without googling.

18. You will mess up. I will take away your phone. We will sit down and talk about it. We will start over again. You & I, we are always learning. I am on your team. We are in this together.

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RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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You say that the women you know wouldn't have an abortion, but you don't know that. No woman can even say "I will never have an abortion." Until a woman has been in that situation and is told "If we don't abort, then this pregnancy likely will kill you," she doesn't know what she will do.
What percentage of women who have abortions do so because their pregnancy will kill them? I bet it is very, very small. The vast majority of women who have these procedures are the female equivalent to the guy who decides he doesn't want to be inconvenienced with raising a child for 18 years and splits leaving the woman high and dry and the kid high and dry. The vast majority of women who have these procedures do so because they don't want to be inconvenienced with a child, just like the man in my example above. They are cut from the same cloth. You know it, and I know it.

If the issue were framed in terms of whether abortions were legal in the case where a woman could die or when they were raped, it would be the worst thing ever to happen to the democrat party, because most republicans would agree that abortions should be allowed in these circumstances. You can point to extremists in the party who would disagree, but again, these are fringe values and aren't mainstream.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
And my comments. Thoughts anyone?

1) OK
2) OK
3)?? I understand "answer it if mom or dad calls", but why shouldn't he be allowed to screen his calls for other people?
4)?? How old is the kid? 7:30 on week nights is too late to call a friend? Not when I was a kid.
5)?? I'm cool with it not going to school, but it just seems like he will have extremely limited use. No access during the school bus ride? Or walking home from school or however he commutes? So basically, his window of opportunity is from when he gets home from school to 7:30pm. Does he take part in any extra curricular activites? How much homework does he have? Daily chores? That 7:30 shut down is the sticking point to me.
6) OK. The kid is responsible for it. But damn, nice confidence in your kid when you tell him, "it will happen". Is the kid a klutz with a history of losing/breaking things?
7) OK, but th iphone really has nothing to do with this advice
8) OK
9)??? So basically, don't have private conversations with your friends, cause there's lots of stuff kids will say amongst friends that they would not say in front of their parents.
10) Hah! Good luck withthat one mom. Hope you're a tech saavy mom if you want to catch him. Cause just like you know he's gonna drop the phone, he's gonna look for porn. It'll happen.
11) Cool. So when he's in public talking to his friends, and mom or dad call, he'll have an excuse to ignore the call. "But mom, you told me to put it on silent so I would not be rude. I didn't even know you called".
12) OK
13)??? This is just stupid
14) Again with the time without the phone. Starting to wonder why she even got him the phone
15) Nice suggestion, but silly rule.
16) Whatever mom
17) WTF? Go eat some granola
18) Are we supposed to hug now?

So he can't use the phone till he gets home from school. It goes without saying that some of that time will be occupied with chores, homework, dinner, bath, any extra curricular activies, time spent playing with friend, and then it goes off at 7:30. I know that I get most use out of my phone/tech after all those other things are done and I am winding down and relaxing.

She is suggesting he not take it out with him, thus lessening its usefulness.
Suggesting he "wonder without googling" thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to not take a bunch of videos/pictures, thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to always answer it but tells him to silence it while he's out in public and/or talking with people, which are contradictory.

She's given him an iphone and a set of rules geared towards him getting as little use out of the phone as possible.
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Jan 17, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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You people? But I and my liberal friends supports gun ownership and gun rights. There is no "you peopl." We.re not a monolithic party. Most people have beliefs from both sides.
So sorry, labeling doesn't allow for deviation.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
Sam I Am wrote:
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So sorry, labeling doesn't allow for deviation.
There you go labeling again.

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#78736
Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
And my comments. Thoughts anyone?
1) OK
2) OK
3)?? I understand "answer it if mom or dad calls", but why shouldn't he be allowed to screen his calls for other people?
4)?? How old is the kid? 7:30 on week nights is too late to call a friend? Not when I was a kid.
5)?? I'm cool with it not going to school, but it just seems like he will have extremely limited use. No access during the school bus ride? Or walking home from school or however he commutes? So basically, his window of opportunity is from when he gets home from school to 7:30pm. Does he take part in any extra curricular activites? How much homework does he have? Daily chores? That 7:30 shut down is the sticking point to me.
6) OK. The kid is responsible for it. But damn, nice confidence in your kid when you tell him, "it will happen". Is the kid a klutz with a history of losing/breaking things?
7) OK, but th iphone really has nothing to do with this advice
8) OK
9)??? So basically, don't have private conversations with your friends, cause there's lots of stuff kids will say amongst friends that they would not say in front of their parents.
10) Hah! Good luck withthat one mom. Hope you're a tech saavy mom if you want to catch him. Cause just like you know he's gonna drop the phone, he's gonna look for porn. It'll happen.
11) Cool. So when he's in public talking to his friends, and mom or dad call, he'll have an excuse to ignore the call. "But mom, you told me to put it on silent so I would not be rude. I didn't even know you called".
12) OK
13)??? This is just stupid
14) Again with the time without the phone. Starting to wonder why she even got him the phone
15) Nice suggestion, but silly rule.
16) Whatever mom
17) WTF? Go eat some granola
18) Are we supposed to hug now?
So he can't use the phone till he gets home from school. It goes without saying that some of that time will be occupied with chores, homework, dinner, bath, any extra curricular activies, time spent playing with friend, and then it goes off at 7:30. I know that I get most use out of my phone/tech after all those other things are done and I am winding down and relaxing.
She is suggesting he not take it out with him, thus lessening its usefulness.
Suggesting he "wonder without googling" thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to not take a bunch of videos/pictures, thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to always answer it but tells him to silence it while he's out in public and/or talking with people, which are contradictory.
She's given him an iphone and a set of rules geared towards him getting as little use out of the phone as possible.
Yeah. She should have just gotten him a regular phone. Screw "wonder without googling". I love Google, Wikipedia, dictionary.com , imdb.com , reddit, etc. I think about stuff all day long, when I want to KNOW something new, I want to know it now. My female friends do this all the time "I wonder blah blah blah..." While they're debating, I've got the answer.

I get not taking nude pics of course, but why the crap does she care if he takes a ton of pictures? I take a ton of pictures with a couple different apps. Only a few see the light of day. That's the beauty of it. Maybe he'll get in to photography.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I saw some stuff on line this morning, some investigative googling by some dude chasing the story, and its starting to sway me to the side of him being dumb, not complicit.
The sticking point for me is I while I can understand people having online only friends that they've never met or seen(hello imaginary friends), I cannot go the extra step to beleiving that anyone could consider someone they've never met to be their girlfriend. That does not compute.
I completely agree with that; I know we joke about being imaginary friends on here and there's no doubt that I've gotten very real support from you guys about different things, but I can't see calling someone my boyfriend if I'd never actually met him.

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Jan 17, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
And my comments. Thoughts anyone?

So he can't use the phone till he gets home from school. It goes without saying that some of that time will be occupied with chores, homework, dinner, bath, any extra curricular activies, time spent playing with friend, and then it goes off at 7:30. I know that I get most use out of my phone/tech after all those other things are done and I am winding down and relaxing.
She is suggesting he not take it out with him, thus lessening its usefulness.
Suggesting he "wonder without googling" thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to not take a bunch of videos/pictures, thus lessening its usefulness.
Tells him to always answer it but tells him to silence it while he's out in public and/or talking with people, which are contradictory.
She's given him an iphone and a set of rules geared towards him getting as little use out of the phone as possible.
I think I understand the intention behind the rules but yes, I agree with your point about the practicality.

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