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[Mister Tonka]

Sublime1 wrote:

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She did go to the nudest resort. She can't be too prude and has to be be a little bit freaky to be open to that.

I'm not so much shocked that she would say such a thing, just that she would say it in her column. I know she often walks the line, but this is the first time I've seen her hump over completely. Maxim magazine. Your local free alternative paper. Glamour. I would not bat an eye in those types of publications. But I thought her primary audience was more of the straight laced "respectable" types. Does she get published in the NYT or WaPo or anything like that? I can't imagine that wouldn't get edited out.

[Sublime1]

PEllen wrote:

<quoted text>Radio said he got 68% votes, the highest of anyone in the class but not enough.

I saw that. He stands a reasonable chance of getting in, in a few years, with that high of a percentage of votes.

[PEllen]

dahgts wrote:

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da Heights. Our southside pronunciation of the notorious, infamous, second only to Cicero, my hometown, Chicago Heights. Gone to hell now but growing up in the 50's and 60's with the "boys" here was very safe and interesting. Never mind that the feds called them the most inept outfit in the state. Most politicians went to jail.
Good memories and taught me street smarts.

Ah. I'm a Rogers Park person but I know whereof you speak.

[squishymama]

dahgts wrote:

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da Heights. Our southside pronunciation of the notorious, infamous, second only to Cicero, my hometown, Chicago Heights. Gone to hell now but growing up in the 50's and 60's with the "boys" here was very safe and interesting. Never mind that the feds called them the most inept outfit in the state. Most politicians went to jail.
Good memories and taught me street smarts.

Ah, a fellow south sider. But I grew up in Flossmoor; not quite so tough.

[Sublime1]

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/economywatch/...

All the countries ahead of us on this list are booming, economically. WE are falling backwards, in contrast.

For those who advocate that we become more like European nations with bloated governments and massive entitlements, outside of Switzerland and Denmark, all other European countries are even behind us on the list.

Ask yourself which direction Obama will be taking us in the next 4 years. Then ask yourself if policies that ensure economic stagnation/very small growth is good for our country.

[edogxxx]

Sublime1 wrote:

Ask yourself which direction Obama will be taking us in the next 4 years. Then ask yourself if policies that ensure economic stagnation/very small growth is good for our country.

We will find out. But I bet people STILL won't wise up.

[Timmy]

She has also written a column about her short stint as a nude model.

Sublime1 wrote:

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She did go to the nudest resort. She can't be too prude and has to be be a little bit freaky to be open to that.

[Sublime1]

Timmy wrote:

She has also written a column about her short stint as a nude model.
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She seems pretty open minded. I bet I would have her doing all sorts of things in the sack.

[Sublime1]

edogxxx wrote:

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We will find out. But I bet people STILL won't wise up.

The republicans are also partially to blame because they have had weak candidates.

They also do themselves a disservice with much of their social agenda and a whole lotta stupid talk by some of the party members.

They pi$s off a lot of women with stupid comments about rape and abortion. That plays right into the democrats hands.

Instead of forcing them to focus on the most paramount issues that threaten all of us,(not issues that just affect women) i.e. debt, jobs, and economic opportunity for all, they play right into the democrats hands with all this controversy over birth control pills, who is or isn't a s l u t, legitimate rape stupid talk, whether rape is an act of god stupid talk ... I could go on and on. Stupid talk on these issues allows the democrats to direct attention to these other issues (which while not important ... are not paramount) in a manner that does not bode well for republicans or any of us.

We need a strong fiscal conservative republican who is more moderate on social issues, if not slightly liberal. That is who we need to lead us.

[Sublime1]

I meant to say (which while not UNimportant ... are not paramount)

[RACE]

Not a crazy cat lady...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/garden/300-...

[RedheadwGlasses]

RACE wrote:

Not a crazy cat lady...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/10/garden/300-...

That would be heaven to me.

[dahgts]

squishymama wrote:

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Ah, a fellow south sider. But I grew up in Flossmoor; not quite so tough.

maybe, but the Flossmoor girls had better clothes. HF didn't open until my senior year, so they had to go to Bloom.

South siders are the best.

[dahgts]

Sublime1 wrote:

http://www.nbcnews.com/busines s/economywatch/us-comes-10th-i ndex-worlds-freest-economies-1 B7915782
All the countries ahead of us on this list are booming, economically. WE are falling backwards, in contrast.
For those who advocate that we become more like European nations with bloated governments and massive entitlements, outside of Switzerland and Denmark, all other European countries are even behind us on the list.
Ask yourself which direction Obama will be taking us in the next 4 years. Then ask yourself if policies that ensure economic stagnation/very small growth is good for our country.

Ok, but Australia and New Zealand have health care. Australia, I think has a 1.5% tax for health benefits. Not so bad considering what people pay here. They also have strict gun laws and are tough on immigration. So it seems to me that it is a more balanced political scene. Unlike here, and it's not just one side that you can blame either.

[dahgts]

Sublime1 wrote:

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The republicans are also partially to blame because they have had weak candidates.
They also do themselves a disservice with much of their social agenda and a whole lotta stupid talk by some of the party members.
They pi$s off a lot of women with stupid comments about rape and abortion. That plays right into the democrats hands.
Instead of forcing them to focus on the most paramount issues that threaten all of us,(not issues that just affect women) i.e. debt, jobs, and economic opportunity for all, they play right into the democrats hands with all this controversy over birth control pills, who is or isn't a s l u t, legitimate rape stupid talk, whether rape is an act of god stupid talk ... I could go on and on. Stupid talk on these issues allows the democrats to direct attention to these other issues (which while not important ... are not paramount) in a manner that does not bode well for republicans or any of us.
We need a strong fiscal conservative republican who is more moderate on social issues, if not slightly liberal. That is who we need to lead us.

I meant to partially agree with you. Altho, a very moderate, conservative liberal would also do. It doesn't really matter who if people/politicians keep screaming about the so-called social issues, like gay marriage and abortion, and start screaming about the money spent on subsidies to oil companies, some farm subsidies and other money-wasting pork barrel stuff. And how about not giving the military around 60M so they can advertise at NASCAR events. It's been reported awhile back that the Repub Congress would vote for even more money then the military asked for. That's just crap.

There was a study in St. Louis where women who were most likely to get pregnant just from screwing around were given free birth control. The rate of births dropped within this group. Why can't the govt. support any org that could provide that service. Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper then continually paying for welfare and such. Personally, I don't care if people screw their brains out if they would use some sort of birth control and since many if not most men won't then dose out the pills.

[edogxxx]

Sublime1 wrote:

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The republicans are also partially to blame because they have had weak candidates.
They also do themselves a disservice with much of their social agenda and a whole lotta stupid talk by some of the party members.
They pi$s off a lot of women with stupid comments about rape and abortion. That plays right into the democrats hands.
Instead of forcing them to focus on the most paramount issues that threaten all of us,(not issues that just affect women) i.e. debt, jobs, and economic opportunity for all, they play right into the democrats hands with all this controversy over birth control pills, who is or isn't a s l u t, legitimate rape stupid talk, whether rape is an act of god stupid talk ... I could go on and on. Stupid talk on these issues allows the democrats to direct attention to these other issues (which while not important ... are not paramount) in a manner that does not bode well for republicans or any of us.
We need a strong fiscal conservative republican who is more moderate on social issues, if not slightly liberal. That is who we need to lead us.

Both parties are flawed. Congress has an 18% approval rating right now. There was a joke in the Trib about who were the 18% that actually think Congress is doing a good job?!

The Republicans need to get their act together if they want to take back the Senate and keep the House in two years. There's too much in-fighting. Bohner and Reid aren't even on speaking terms.

[Sublime1]

dahgts wrote:

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Ok, but Australia and New Zealand have health care. Australia, I think has a 1.5% tax for health benefits. Not so bad considering what people pay here. They also have strict gun laws and are tough on immigration. So it seems to me that it is a more balanced political scene. Unlike here, and it's not just one side that you can blame either.

I don't think the fact that certain people don't have heath care is a huge drag on the economy. Some folks just think it is inhumane that the rest of us who work for our own healthcare don't take more money that we could use for our own families and provide free healthcare for grown adults who can't afford it. Me, sorry, I'd rather save for my kids college fund than pay to provide some working age adult with insurance. I have no moral issues with it. Another grown working age adult is not my child who I have to provide medical care for.

My suggestion to the grown adult without insurance would be to get a second job and work more, rather than to ask me to work more for him or her.

I know lots of folks who work more than 40 hour weeks. Lots of people in my profession do. I know lots of guys in the trade who do or did too (including my father in law ... he didn't take any vacation time for years and years on end (he was a foreman and he knew if he took off all his guys would have to too and he didn't want to do that to them ... he was a hard worker, too ... when times were slow and all the other guys got laid off, they kept him working, even if it was in the shop doing maintenance on the machines ... why did they do this, because he was a very hard worker who was valuable and they knew if they laid him off they could lose him to another outfit ... to me that is what America is about ... you work harder than the next guy and you'll get yours ... not do the bare minimum to get by and reward you by having others pick up the slack).

What is a huge drag on the economy is the cost we pay for healthcare. The problem with Obamacare, is that it does almost nothing to reduce costs. The supposed cost savings are not concrete ... they are willy nilly, stuff like we will save a bunch of money by being more efficient and reducing fraud and by the ability of folks previously without insurance to get regular treatment rather than only go to the ER after things have gotten real bad (that won't reduce over all costs, that will just make giving them free insurance a little bit less costly than it otherwise would be, but it doesn't pay for giving 30 million folks free or subsidized insurance ... if it did, they wouldn't have had to raise taxes and steal 600 billion from Medicare to pay for it).

There is no lowering of prescription drug costs in line with what other western nations pay, for example, which would have been the easiest way to decrease costs for everyone, without sacrificing quality what so ever. Most countries do this. We don't, even with Obamacare. Why? If the left were serious about reducing costs they had a golden opportunity to do so.

We could also instead have a single payer system. That WOULD LOWER COSTS. It would be much cheaper. The problem is the rest of us who currently have insurance would receive a lower quality of care and have longer wait times, while those without it would receive much better care. Do you want less care? I don't want to receive a lower quality of care just so that others can have better care. I also don't care about how much it costs me for my current quality of care. I want the best and so do most folks who can afford it.

That's part of the problem with heath care ... it doesn't work like traditional markets ... folks don't shop around for the cheapest doctor ... no they want the best doctor. I'm no different. I want the best care for me and my family and I'm not willing to take less care for myself and my family so some other guy and his family can have better care.

[edogxxx]

dahgts wrote:

There was a study in St. Louis where women who were most likely to get pregnant just from screwing around were given free birth control. The rate of births dropped within this group. Why can't the govt. support any org that could provide that service. Wouldn't it be a lot cheaper then continually paying for welfare and such.

It might be an okay idea in theory, but there are too many people who would no more want their tax dollars providing others with birth control as they would providing abortions.

It all goes back to personal accountability. A view Republicans hold, but Democrats don't.

[RedheadwGlasses]

edogxxx wrote:

It all goes back to personal accountability. A view Republicans hold, but Democrats don't.

Your party likes it on paper, but not in reality.

But in your world, Republicans are perfect and Democrats are horrible scum that should be eliminated from the planet. Keep on keepin' on with your insanity.

[Sam I Am]

Yay! Another school shooting today! Gooooooooo guns!

In my informal survey of media coverage, I have noticed that the ratio of "Man uses licensed firearm to fend off would be intruder" to "Innocent person(s) killed for no damn good reason" articles is quite low.