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#78361 Jan 9, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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Kelly Taylor!
So am I David Silver or Dylan McKay?

Since: Jan 10

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#78362 Jan 9, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>That's in her crazy head. What's the writer's excuse?
"Florida Woman Who Caught Husband Cheating..."
No. Wrong.
Florida Woman Broke into Home of Estranged Husband..."
Good catch. While some would argue that since they were legally married, it was cheating, I think many people -- including some who would not date until their own divorce was final -- would say that the relationship was over and separate households were estalished, so it isn't cheating.

Since: Aug 08

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#78363 Jan 9, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
<quoted text>And because of them, the writers couldn't think straight and didn't vote anyone in for induction. Idiots.
I don't know who else new was on the ballet this year, but I don't think anyone else was first ballet HOF material.

But for steroids, Bonds, Clemens, and Sosa would surely be first ballet HOF inductees. They are some of the all time greats without a doubt, but they cheated. The thing that bothers me is that it diminishes all the past accomplishments of HOFers and players who played with them ... Especially someone like frank Thomas, who played the game without cheating.

Frank Thomas was standing behind me one time at a bulls game (back in the glory days for the bulls). That guy was so corn fed ... He didn't need roids. These other guys needed them to put on the muscle mass to hit the HRs they did. Very few men can get that big without cheating. They just don't have the bone structure or the amount of testosterone to get that big.

Since: Aug 08

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#78364 Jan 9, 2013
Look at pictures of Barry bonds and Sosa when they were say 24. They were not big guys.

I don't think men go from having a normal to slender build at the age of 24 to being absolutely huge in their late 20s into their 30s. Especially athletes who are likely working out and lifting regularly in their early 20s. It's not like they were couch potatoes who suddenly started taking care of themselves, such that this could explain the incredible increase in muscle mass.

Since: Aug 08

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#78365 Jan 9, 2013
Guys like Pujols, Frank Thomas, Jim thome, were always big boys and that's why they put up big numbers without the juice.

Since: Aug 08

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#78366 Jan 9, 2013
Bonds and Clem's woulda been HOFers without the juice, but Clemens would not have pitched as long as he did and bonds would not have hit as many HRs or broken the HR records.

Sosa ... I'm not sure. Maybe he woulda. I can't rule it out. A few feet can often times make the difference between an out and a hr.

Since: Aug 08

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#78367 Jan 9, 2013
Err, ah, first ballot, I meant.

:D

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78368 Jan 10, 2013
dahgts

Chicago, IL

#78369 Jan 10, 2013
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78370 Jan 10, 2013
dahgts wrote:
You are right.

BTW was does dahgts stand for?

Since: Jan 10

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#78371 Jan 10, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
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I don't know who else new was on the ballet this year, but I don't think anyone else was first ballet HOF material.
There was a HOF-qualified starting pitcher -- world series winner -- for the Twins who was up for his 14th time. Several guys who should be in didn't make it in yesterday.

Since: Jan 10

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#78372 Jan 10, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
Look at pictures of Barry bonds and Sosa when they were say 24. They were not big guys.
I don't think men go from having a normal to slender build at the age of 24 to being absolutely huge in their late 20s into their 30s. Especially athletes who are likely working out and lifting regularly in their early 20s. It's not like they were couch potatoes who suddenly started taking care of themselves, such that this could explain the incredible increase in muscle mass.
I didn't get this, so a guy at work showed me pictures of "before" and "after" of the guys you mentioned (this was a while ago) and you are completely right.
Yeah Right

Orange City, FL

#78374 Jan 10, 2013
Should Pete Rose be in the hall?

Since: Jan 10

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#78375 Jan 10, 2013
Yeah Right wrote:
Should Pete Rose be in the hall?
I personally think he should, but I was a HUGE Pete Rose and Cinci Reds (and Johnny Bench, Dave Concepcion, etc.) fan in the '70s.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#78376 Jan 10, 2013
Sublime1 wrote:
Err, ah, first ballot, I meant.
:D
I was like "what does ballet have to do with baseball?"
;)

Since: Aug 08

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#78377 Jan 10, 2013
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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There was a HOF-qualified starting pitcher -- world series winner -- for the Twins who was up for his 14th time. Several guys who should be in didn't make it in yesterday.
I'll have to check it out and look at their stats. I know Biggio was on there. He was good for a long time, but I'm not sure how his stats measure up, tho, compared to those already in.

Since: Aug 08

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#78378 Jan 10, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
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I was like "what does ballet have to do with baseball?"
;)
I know. Duh.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#78379 Jan 10, 2013
dahgts wrote:
L1: Creepy! I don't have any advice myself.

L2: You noticed these drastic changes for two months leading up to the wedding but married him anyway? After only knowing him for a year?

Since: Aug 08

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#78380 Jan 10, 2013
Yeah Right wrote:
Should Pete Rose be in the hall?
After he dies, yes. His gambling was a black eye to the game and integrity is a component in terms of whether you get in the HOF. HE also denied it for many years. I don't know about you, but when someone makes a mistake, that's one thing, but failing to own it, is just adding insult to injury. I find insult to be worse than injury in a lot of instances. I have far more respect for someone who owns their mistakes.

Even though integrity is a component of the decision, I don't believe his decisions as a manager should take away from what he accomplished as a player. They are two separate things.

As far as we know, he played the game fairly and with integrity, as a player. So, he should get in, but I can't say it's unfair to delay it.

They did the same to Ron Santo, and while his numbers weren't Rose-esque, they compared favorably to other inductees and were HOF worthy, given that era he played in and the great pitchers of that era. I think that he did not get in until after he died was more of a travesty than if they were to do so for Rose. Santo, regardless of his somewhat obnoxious behavior as a player, played the game right, had integrity, really loved baseball (and the cubs) and did nothing that I know of to blacken its reputation. If they did it to him, for far less egregious character issues, I can't say they shouldn't do the same to Rose.

Since: Aug 08

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#78381 Jan 10, 2013
dahgts wrote:
LW1: I would tell your son and contact the DA. He probably doesn’t have any memories and if he does and it has affected him, maybe it can be an opening to therapy if he needs it. I can honestly say if I found out I was molested as a young kid, but didn’t remember it, it wouldn’t affect me.

LW2: Why would you go through with the marriage given all the red flags that appeared as the wedding approached? IMO, dating for only one year is also too short before getting married. Go for an annulment. You are going to be absolutely miserable with that nut case. His behavior is so odd, that I would also be concerned for your safety once you spring the news on him.

LW3: I would speak up.

LW4: 1 out of 3 times, you get what you want. The other two times you are still getting laid. Sounds to me like she’s already meeting you pretty much half way, dude. Quit your b1tchen.

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