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#78265
Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
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Good lord. Even if she was up, she could have been in the shower or something. This is the one thing I hate about the cell phone era: the few people that believe everyone must be accessible all the time. If not, they've clearly been murdered.
We're trying so hard, aren't we. To change the subject.

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Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
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Good lord. Even if she was up, she could have been in the shower or something. This is the one thing I hate about the cell phone era: the few people that believe everyone must be accessible all the time. If not, they've clearly been murdered.
I don't see how this has anything to do with cell phones. Don't know if the wife called a cell phone or a house phone. Take it back 25 years, in the absence of cell phones, the kid would be expected to be at home (and thus be able to answer the phone) or would be expected to call mom or dad and let them know where she was going if she was going to leave the house.

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#78267
Jan 8, 2013
 
j_m_w wrote:
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We're trying so hard, aren't we. To change the subject.
We are. Fight the good fight with me, girl.

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#78268
Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
the few people that believe everyone must be accessible all the time. If not, they've clearly been murdered.
Oh, and murder is certainly not my first guess, but your damn right you need to be at my beck and call and answer the gd phone when I call!

:)

MIL phone story to follow, but that will be later. Lunch crew is leaving without me.
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#78269
Jan 8, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Separation of church and state. Keep your religion out of my government offices and buildings.'nuff said.
I hate to throw a bucket of cold water over everyone but what the Constitution says is:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

It is in the 1st Amendment so it is technically an oversight because they forgot to put it in the Constitution itself.

The bit about separation of church and and state is from, I think, Jefferson in his writings and is not anywhere in the Constitution or the amendments.

After that you can argue as much as you want.

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#78271
Jan 8, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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Atheists ARE liberals.
Way to generalize.

You would be much more correct to say that atheists are people who think things through, require evidence and thoughtfulness rather than just accepting fantasy and superstition wholesale with no proof.

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Jan 8, 2013
 

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Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>I don't see how this has anything to do with cell phones. Don't know if the wife called a cell phone or a house phone. Take it back 25 years, in the absence of cell phones, the kid would be expected to be at home (and thus be able to answer the phone) or would be expected to call mom or dad and let them know where she was going if she was going to leave the house.
I don't know. It just seems like missing a phone call back then was not the OHMYGODEVERYONEPANIC thing that it is today. Everyone expects everyone to be available all the time.

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#78273
Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
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We are. Fight the good fight with me, girl.
We will go down swinging!

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#78274
Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
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We are. Fight the good fight with me, girl.
And you have to do it wearing only your bras and panties.

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#78275
Jan 8, 2013
 
Mimi Seattle wrote:
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Way to generalize.
You would be much more correct to say that atheists are people who think things through, require evidence and thoughtfulness rather than just accepting fantasy and superstition wholesale with no proof.
Let me ask you something...

How much proof would it take?

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#78276
Jan 8, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>Oh, and murder is certainly not my first guess, but your damn right you need to be at my beck and call and answer the gd phone when I call!
:)
MIL phone story to follow, but that will be later. Lunch crew is leaving without me.
That doesn't work so much as they get older -- say 12 and up. Maybe earlier. It's not realistic. Also, they sleep so deeply.

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#78277
Jan 8, 2013
 
Matilda77 wrote:
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I don't know. It just seems like missing a phone call back then was not the OHMYGODEVERYONEPANIC thing that it is today. Everyone expects everyone to be available all the time.
The folks over at Free Range Kids (Lenore Skanazy) call this Worst-First Thinking.

It's real easy to fall into thinking like this, especially when we hear about every bad thing that's happened all around the world. I find myself doing it, but usually it revolves around Dickie. If he's at the studio and doesn't text or call to say when he's leaving, I'll start thinking about car wrecks and armed robbery. But in my case, I have a historical referece to go by: my first husband. He would disappear for days at a time and was in a wreck and was robbed and was arrested (separate incidents), so my worst-first scenarios have actually happened!

It's hard not to worry,'cause yanno, it *could* happen.

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#78278
Jan 8, 2013
 
MIL had our kids(school break). Was on her way to town. We went out to a kid free dinner. Still though, we wanted to get an idea of when she would arrive. We called her on the way to dinner. During dinner. On the way home. No answer. Typical. Got home and they had been ther at least an hour. Asked why she didn't call. Said she didn't want to bother us. Asked why she didn't pick up the phone. Didn't feel like getting up.

We certainly did not have any visions of car accidents or anything like that. But still annoying. Pick up the damn phone people!

Most annoying thing(wife now, not MIL), I'd call wife and she'd not answer cause she was on another call. Didn't want to tell the friend she was talking with to hold on for a second. Thinks that was rude.

FLUCK THAT! That's what call waiting is for! Its rude to ignore your GD spouse when he/she is trying to get a hold of you. If I'm calling about nothing important, you tell me to talk later, your on a call. But at least take the GD call to find out if its important. I cured her of that BS by telling her if she could not answer my calls, I would not answer hers.

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Jan 8, 2013
 
edogxxx wrote:
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Atheists ARE liberals.
Nope. Some are. Some are conservative.

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#78280
Jan 8, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
FLUCK THAT! That's what call waiting is for! Its rude to ignore your GD spouse when he/she is trying to get a hold of you. If I'm calling about nothing important, you tell me to talk later, your on a call. But at least take the GD call to find out if its important. I cured her of that BS by telling her if she could not answer my calls, I would not answer hers.
Maybe... but my boss interrupts EVERY call she's on in order to take another call, even though it's from family members she talks to numerous times. she'll interrupt a call with a client to take a sales call. It's stupid.

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Jan 8, 2013
 
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Maybe... but my boss interrupts EVERY call she's on in order to take another call, even though it's from family members she talks to numerous times. she'll interrupt a call with a client to take a sales call. It's stupid.
That's quite a bit different. I would not expect someone to put a business call on hold to take a personal call, but the instances with my wife, it was after work talking to friends.

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Jan 8, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
MIL had our kids(school break). Was on her way to town. We went out to a kid free dinner. Still though, we wanted to get an idea of when she would arrive. We called her on the way to dinner. During dinner. On the way home. No answer. Typical. Got home and they had been ther at least an hour. Asked why she didn't call. Said she didn't want to bother us. Asked why she didn't pick up the phone. Didn't feel like getting up.
We certainly did not have any visions of car accidents or anything like that. But still annoying. Pick up the damn phone people!
Most annoying thing(wife now, not MIL), I'd call wife and she'd not answer cause she was on another call. Didn't want to tell the friend she was talking with to hold on for a second. Thinks that was rude.
FLUCK THAT! That's what call waiting is for! Its rude to ignore your GD spouse when he/she is trying to get a hold of you. If I'm calling about nothing important, you tell me to talk later, your on a call. But at least take the GD call to find out if its important. I cured her of that BS by telling her if she could not answer my calls, I would not answer hers.
That's different. I don't mean to start anything, but it sounds like she was being a bit passive aggressive about something OR she's spacey.

If you want parents to have a relaxing dinner, answer the damn phone and tell them not to worry everything is okay.

Now, if you're on a call and your spouse calls, the spouse should have enough sense to know that the other will call you back. To expect anyone to be at your beck and call every second of the day is ridiculous and very egotistical and controlling.

I would not expect my spouse to answer my call every time. Things happen. I would expect a call back at a decent time interval, however, as I would anyone close to me.

Different strokes, though.

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#78283
Jan 8, 2013
 
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>That's quite a bit different. I would not expect someone to put a business call on hold to take a personal call, but the instances with my wife, it was after work talking to friends.
I hate call waiting and won't use it, for anybody.

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RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Maybe... but my boss interrupts EVERY call she's on in order to take another call, even though it's from family members she talks to numerous times. she'll interrupt a call with a client to take a sales call. It's stupid.
That is very stupid and unprofessional.

I think a phone call is a REQUEST to talk to you. Anyone demands something isn't going to get it from me. I don't react well to someone who demands something (unless it's my boss and it has to do with work and my paycheck and nothing out of the realm of what my work should be).

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Jan 8, 2013
 
Toj wrote:
That's different. I don't mean to start anything, but it sounds like she was being a bit passive aggressive about something OR she's spacey.
She's IS spacey. SBut se places ZERO priority on answering her phone. If she is with us and we are all going somewhere, she will walk out of the house without her phone until someone reminds her. Her line of thinking is that we are all together, why does she need her phone?

As far as beck and call, I'm only half kidding. We've been over this before. I check my email regularly. If the phone rings, unless I am really busy or I specifically don't want to talk to you, I am going to answer it. At the very least, I am going to look at the caller id. I can't sit on the other side of the room and let the phone ring without knowing who it is. It just annoys me when people go days or even weeks without checking email or voice mail. Perhaps I am one extreme. But my MIL is the other.

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