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“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#78178 Jan 4, 2013
Mister Tonka wrote:
Although you hot dog snobs might be happy to know, Tonka jr seems to like just mustard on his hot dog. Not sure how that happened. Didn't learn it from me.
my older nephew eats ketchup with EVERYTHING he eats (which isnt very much lately)- pasta, hot dogs, chicken nuggets, cucumbers...

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#78179 Jan 4, 2013
Part of the fun of a chili cheese dog is wearing it.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text>That sounds disgustingly messy. I don't like messy food.
The best thing for chili is a spoon.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#78180 Jan 4, 2013
Matilda77 wrote:
Kids these days rant:
My SIL and her BF stayed at our house from when their break started until Christmas morning, then drove to his house in NW Indiana. Once you get on 55, it is literally three turns to his parent's driveway. They got lost. A couple times. She has a smart phone and they wrote down directions.
Now, they're on their way back for the weekend (yay...) before classes start on Monday. He got a GPS for Christmas and they're *still* having navigational issues.
Ohmygod, how does this happen? Three turns! Don't turn until you're supposed to! In my day, we had to print out Mapquest directions or *gasp* look at an atlas...
/end rant
i got a call once from a co-worker "help, i got lost." ok, sez I, where are you... "in a home depot parking lot..."

/facepalm/

yes, i had to ask a few questions to find out WHICH BLOODY HD PARKING LOT and then tell her basically, turn the f around and get back on the highway. Her stupid GPS took her off of 55 to the buisiness loop and back on out the SW corner of the Bloomington Normal Metroplex instead of staying on 55 and going around.

and she had driven to BN several times, and also to the city she was realy headed to before... Ugh, i hate it when she has to go anywhere like that.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#78181 Jan 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>
When I got my smartphone last summer, I used teh gps to get from Wheaton Illinois to the Lincolshire Marriott, both places I knew well and knew how to get to. You wouldn't believe the route that thing took me on.
If you have always been a passenger and never a driver it is easy to get lost on the way to someplace familiar.
If you have the time to take a moment and step through the route before actually embarking, its sometimes a good thing. I have had times wheren the GPS actually gives me a better rout than I know. But last time I was in Tallahassee, I was going to a breakfast place that I looked and sounded good. Relatively new place, so I was not sure where it was. From my hotel, GPS took me North a few miles past Tennessee Street. Then east a few miles up to Capital Circle.
Then back south to the restaurant. About 2 blocks from Tennessee Street. I could have gone straight up Tennessee and been there quicker.

At least it did not get me lost. Just took my a dumb way.

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#78182 Jan 4, 2013
RACE wrote:
Part of the fun of a chili cheese dog is wearing it.
<quoted text>
You can have my portion of that fun. If it drips down your arm while eating it, I don't want it.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#78183 Jan 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
Lunch over. You guys have no carbs, nothing sweet, nothing dairy and no fat.
But I have a bar of dark chocolate!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#78184 Jan 4, 2013
squishymama wrote:
I bet the voters of Idaho had to contain their giggles as they voted for this guy. What a name!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/04/16...
I'd change my name.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78185 Jan 4, 2013
Toj wrote:
<quoted text>
I'd change my name.
And convert, too. He is a Mormon who said he didn't drink.

Ah, politics and religion.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78186 Jan 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
I agree with teh hospital for firing teh nurses who would not be immunized. The hospital's mission is patient health. I put this in a category near, but not teh same as, pharmacists who don't want to dispense birth control.
That is NOTHING like the pharmacist category.

If there are possible dangers with getting the flu shot, why should the rights of the patients trump the rights of the individual?

My own health is my responsibility and my freedom. There are already a multitude of lawsuits of Obamacare for requiring companies to provide contraceptives for their employees. Suppose Obamacare requires everyone to get a flu shot? And not doing so would be deemed illegal and you could be arrested, fined and jailed? You'd be okay with that?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78187 Jan 4, 2013
squishymama wrote:
I bet the voters of Idaho had to contain their giggles as they voted for this guy. What a name!
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/04/16...
It would have been funnier if he was arrested for defecating in public.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78188 Jan 4, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
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That is NOTHING like the pharmacist category.
If there are possible dangers with getting the flu shot, why should the rights of the patients trump the rights of the individual?
?
In a competitng right situation, someone wins and someone loses.
A hospital is a place where the general public comes for health care and , nosocomial infections to the contrary notwithstanding, not to be exposed to more pathogens or risks. The nurses can leave; in general, the patients cannot. The nurses are presumed healthy; the patients are, by definition, not. Therefore in a competition between the right of an unconfined individual to become infected and spread disease as weighed against the rights of a fragile and confined population, the free roaming person,i.e. the nurse should take second place to the rights of the patients .

Perhaps the nurses can get a temporary job until flu season is over, like at Denny's as a cook, viz, Tyhphoid Mary.

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#78189 Jan 4, 2013
Thinking of you, PE, as I finish off my brownie from Corner Robery, er, Bakery.

But I couldn't help it! When I got off the train this morning, the wind was blowing from the direction of Blommer's Chocolate and well, I just had to have a brownie after that.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78190 Jan 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>In a competitng right situation, someone wins and someone loses.
A hospital is a place where the general public comes for health care and , nosocomial infections to the contrary notwithstanding, not to be exposed to more pathogens or risks. The nurses can leave; in general, the patients cannot. The nurses are presumed healthy; the patients are, by definition, not. Therefore in a competition between the right of an unconfined individual to become infected and spread disease as weighed against the rights of a fragile and confined population, the free roaming person,i.e. the nurse should take second place to the rights of the patients .
Perhaps the nurses can get a temporary job until flu season is over, like at Denny's as a cook, viz, Tyhphoid Mary.
But I can get the flu from a stranger in public. So by your same logic shouldn't EVERYONE be forced to get flu shots?

I can get behind company policy on dress codes, I can get behind rules on etiquette and behavior and language, but I CANNOT get behind companies forcing flu immunizations. My medical records are only between me and my doctor, it's none of my employer's business whether or not I've gotten a flu shot. That is illegal.

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#78191 Jan 4, 2013
Just saw on Facebook that raw onions can prevent the flu. Not eating them, just having them in the room with you. Supposedly they attract germs or whatever. For the same reason, you should not eat "leftover" onions unless they're cooked.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78192 Jan 4, 2013
edogxxx wrote:
<quoted text>
But I can get the flu from a stranger in public. So by your same logic shouldn't EVERYONE be forced to get flu shots?
I can get behind company policy on dress codes, I can get behind rules on etiquette and behavior and language, but I CANNOT get behind companies forcing flu immunizations. My medical records are only between me and my doctor, it's none of my employer's business whether or not I've gotten a flu shot. That is illegal.
You can get away from sick strangers, wash your hands alot, wear a mask, stay away from confined spaces on teh street. You cannot do that if you are a patient confined to a hospital. You are captive and the choice has been made to protect the weaker, captive population at the expense of the person who has a choice.

It is not illegal in this context, although the nurses are claming their rights are infringed. There is no issue of disclosure of medical records. The employer makes the flu shot a condition of employment and it is a question whether that condition is reasonable under the circumstances.

Are you suggesting you would lie and claim the you had the shot but you aren't going to give proof? You get the shot or inhale teh nose spray. The nurse who did it gives you a receipt and you give the receipt to HR. No one sees your medical records.

Do you have to wear steel toed shoes at work or hearing protection? Are there consequenece if you don't?
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78193 Jan 4, 2013
j_m_w wrote:
Just saw on Facebook that raw onions can prevent the flu. Not eating them, just having them in the room with you. Supposedly they attract germs or whatever. For the same reason, you should not eat "leftover" onions unless they're cooked.
Were we just talking about rubbing a raw onion on your windshield to clear it of ice or something?
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#78194 Jan 4, 2013
squishymama wrote:
Thinking of you, PE, as I finish off my brownie from Corner Robery, er, Bakery.
But I couldn't help it! When I got off the train this morning, the wind was blowing from the direction of Blommer's Chocolate and well, I just had to have a brownie after that.
Noooo.
Vegetable soup.Pick out the carrots.
Plain tuna from the salad bar with some celery, onions, jardinaire and squeezed lemon.
Some grapes from home left over from Christmas dinner.

A lot of herb tea.

I am on day 4 of 14. I WILL do this.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#78195 Jan 4, 2013
I suspect that health care workers also may have to get hepatitis shots as well.

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#78196 Jan 4, 2013
Go PE go! Matilda did it! You can, too!!!

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#78197 Jan 4, 2013
PEllen wrote:
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You can get away from sick strangers, wash your hands alot, wear a mask, stay away from confined spaces on teh street.
So to avoid being forced to get the flu shot and not get the flu, I should stay inside and not get a job as a nurse. Got it.
PEllen wrote:
Are you suggesting you would lie and claim the you had the shot but you aren't going to give proof?
In order to keep my job, yes.
PEllen wrote:
Do you have to wear steel toed shoes at work or hearing protection? Are there consequenece if you don't?
Yeah, I'll get fired. But there's a difference between those analogies. Personal protective equipment is for MY safety. Is requiring nurses to get the flu shot for THEIR safety, or the safety of others? I'm sure that working in a hospital, they come across all kinds of sicknesses. Should they be required to wear full body hazmat suits? A sick patient could infect his sick roommate in the next bed. Should every patient admitted be required to take the flu shot?

Nobody should be FORCED to get a flu shot. Nobody. Not some nurse in a hospital or the cashier ringing up my groceries that has fondled the diseased-ridden money of many strangers.

The question begs, where will it end? You start with nurses, you could end up with requiring all teachers, receptionists, salesmen, anybody who serves the public.

Best solution is not to start anywhere.

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