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PEllen

Chicago, IL

#77425 Dec 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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I honestly wanted to avoid this topic, and wish I had.
The whole thing is just so incredibly sad and pointless, I don't even want to hear about it anymore, read about it anymore (I haven't been reading news much and I haven't been watching the news at all since it happened), or talk about it anymore.
Having a son with autism, having young children around the age of the children who were murdered, it's all just too close to home for me. I just don't even want to think about it anymore.
Noted.

You think the Bears should dump Lovie Smith?

Since: Aug 08

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#77426 Dec 19, 2012
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>Noted.
You think the Bears should dump Lovie Smith?
Yes, I think they have to. I don't blame it all on him, tho. I think we are still dealing with the after effects of Jerry Angelo and years of very poor draft picks.

Having said that, Lovie is really good player's coach. I think he's really good outside of game days. It's obvious his players like playing for him and he commands loyalty.

On game days, tho, he and his staff are like a complete morons sometimes ... just with clock management alone, bone headed calls, and challenges/no challenges. Anyone who watches them knows exactly what I am talking about. It's almost Cub-esque how they shoot themselves in the foot sometimes.

His coaching staff has also had a very high turnover rate. He fired Ron Rivera as defensive coordinator, in the off season, right after his defense led the team to the superbowl. Replaced him with his BFF, who did a very bad job and had the defense take a noticeable step back for a few years. I think J Cutler has had 3 different offensive coordinators in 3 of 4 years. It's hard to be consistently good, when you don't have consistency.

His win loss record, is actually fairly impressive too. However, his teams have rarely been able to win in big games. Ultimately, that's the goal ... to win it all ... not to be pretty good, but not great, for a long stretch of time. I don't think he is the coach who can take them to the next level.

I also think the bears are going to get worse, before they get better, simply because the defense, which has been the cornerstone of the team, for so long, is getting old.

Since: Jan 10

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#77427 Dec 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
Having said that, Lovie is really good player's coach. I think he's really good outside of game days. It's obvious his players like playing for him and he commands loyalty.
When the Vikings had a coach like that, they sucked worse than ever.

Since: Aug 08

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#77428 Dec 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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When the Vikings had a coach like that, they sucked worse than ever.
I think as a coach, you can be as nice as you want, but ultimately you have to demand accountability and the guys who play for you have to know that you demand. I think Lovie is too nice and too loyal at times. You don't have to scream and yell and berate players either when going about it.

Certain personality types will just take advantage of a guy like Lovie, slack off, and be content with going through the motions and cashing their million dollar pay check. Those types need more structure and discipline. Those who don't need to be babysat as much, will also function well under someone who is a bit more disciplinarian ... so long as you are not a complete psycho like Mike Singletary was as a coach in SF (his players were literally scared of him).

Since: Dec 07

DuPage County

#77429 Dec 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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I also think the bears are going to get worse, before they get better, simply because the defense, which has been the cornerstone of the team, for so long, is getting old.
The defense is done. The Bears need to have a firesale this off season and trade some of those aging defense members to help re-stock the roster. I doubt that Virginia McCaskey will allow Emery and company to do that though. Sadly, she's the major barrier between the Bears and the 21st century.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#77430 Dec 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
OMG edog has the best holiday avatar! That is nasty! Is it Amy Winehouse?
Thanks. I think it's just some random woman. I had originally posted a pic of a scantily clad hottie in a naughty Santa uniform, but I guess topix didn't like it. Then I had two scantily clad women in naughty Santa uniforms whipping each other in a dungeon, but the tiny avatar pic didn't turn out too well, so I settled on this one to help get people in the holiday mood.
:)

I think if the Bears don't win the superbowl this season, Lovie is gone.

Since: Jan 10

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#77431 Dec 19, 2012
Is Jay Cutler really as bad as that anonymous post here makes him out to be?

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#77432 Dec 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Is Jay Cutler really as bad as that anonymous post here makes him out to be?
I don't think so. He has a great arm. I think he's been playing hurt and so his throwing was off during the GB game. He rallys the offensive line a bit more and the whole team more so than the back-up.

The thing is, the Bears have been playing sucky lately.

Since: Aug 08

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#77433 Dec 19, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
Is Jay Cutler really as bad as that anonymous post here makes him out to be?
He does make a bone head play every now and then, but running for your life will do that to you. He's had two concussions in two seasons. He's been sacked a bunch of times.(he got sacked 6 times in one half against the Giants last year ... in a half a game!) You could put Payton Manning or Tom Brady behind that offensive line and they would do no better.

For so many years our former GM used hardly any draft picks on offense. Our offensive line is mostly cobbled together with guys playing out of position, guys who were let go from other teams, guys who spot filled in a few games before being let go from other teams, and guys that spent most of their time on the practice squad of other teams before they were let go.

I honestly never understood why they traded for him if they were going to play him behind such a line. I liken it to buying a Ferrari just to drive it on a gravel road with a bunch of potholes.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#77434 Dec 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
<quoted text>
I honestly wanted to avoid this topic, and wish I had.
The whole thing is just so incredibly sad and pointless, I don't even want to hear about it anymore, read about it anymore (I haven't been reading news much and I haven't been watching the news at all since it happened), or talk about it anymore.
Having a son with autism, having young children around the age of the children who were murdered, it's all just too close to home for me. I just don't even want to think about it anymore.
It was a loaded question anyway. There is no one size fits all answer.

Since: Aug 08

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#77435 Dec 19, 2012

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#77436 Dec 19, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
Quite a heavy load to uplift. What a whale of a good story!

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#77437 Dec 19, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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Quite a heavy load to uplift. What a whale of a good story!
Since when did PEllen turn into Edog?

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Wilmington, IL

#77438 Dec 19, 2012
Toj wrote:
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Since when did PEllen turn into Edog?
Never let a bad pun go to waste. I had to jump on it.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#77439 Dec 19, 2012
Okay -- kudos for Cutler for taking the amount of blame they should:

"Frustration sets in," he said during "The Jay Cutler Show" on ESPN 1000. "You're at a point in the season when you're on a little skid. I know Brian's frustrated he can't be out there and help us, and do that. So I think everyone in that locker room is supporting Lovie and we'll see what happens.

"That's the last of our worries. We have to worry about Arizona."

As far as the fans and media, Cutler said: "I'm jaded by it. I don't understand why we're going to get frustrated with it at this point.

"The fans they have a reason to boo, we're not playing well. You can't blame them. The media, we're giving them a lot of ammo right now, guys are doing a lot of talking and we're not playing very well. At the end of the day, it falls back on us."
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#77440 Dec 19, 2012
Hah!
I take some time off to do work and look what happens. Edog is agreeing with Red and making my puns for me.

(Okay Dog, good Santa will come to your house after all)

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#77441 Dec 19, 2012
If wishes were dishes...
It was to illustrate a point, but that is obviously beyond you mental abilities to grasp.
So will you kindly stop doing what it is I find so annoying about you?

Of course not, because your a moron.
Sam I Am wrote:
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I really wish you would just answer a simple question about something YOU said. Do you really believe that or was it an excited utterance in the heat of the moment that you would rescind?

“...,to wit”

Since: Jun 09

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#77443 Dec 20, 2012
http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/T7MN1UVADO...

Amy from the 19th- no one posted her yesterday?

Since: Aug 08

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#77444 Dec 20, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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Quite a heavy load to uplift. What a whale of a good story!
What did P' do with edog?

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#77445 Dec 20, 2012
j_m_w wrote:
Do you hear what I hear? It's the sound of "hallelujah" - she broke up with him!!!! He finally agreed instead of trying to argue/convince her otherwise. I'm so relieved.
Okay, you can go back to fighting about guns now.
;)
Woot woot! Hope it stays that way.

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