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#77267 Dec 17, 2012
RACE wrote:
Would a 3 day (or months) waiting period have prevented this tragedy? Simple answer is NO.
You cannot prevent crazy. All the talk about cooling off, or backround checks is just feel good lip service.
If a person is going to fail a backround check, they will get a saturday night special, and if they wanna cap their wife, they will go to craigs list and get a weapon today. You cant legislate crazy, it just is.
If it were that simple, other countries would have similar gun-related deaths problems, but no one else does. It's our gun culture.
Sam I Am

Chicago, IL

#77268 Dec 17, 2012
RACE wrote:
Ignoring newton, there is no reason a citizen should be denied the right to own the weapon. It does not need justification. By your logic nobody should be allowed to own a car that can exceed the speed limit. After all, what possible purpose could there be to owning such a thing?
Sorry about your mom and your aunt. But I think you are a POS and I dont care what happens to you. You are a self ritcheous arrogant self serving twatwaffle and like I said, I hope your gene pool ends with you.
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And by your (il)logic, people should be able to do whatever they want with no regard whatsoever to societal impact.

I've asked you twice to support the appropriateness/necessity of assault weapons for ordinary citizens, and all you've given me is "'Because." It just shows a very small mind that is incapable of reason. Should citizens be allowed to have land mines? Bazookas? Tanks? Nukes? Where do you draw the line? Or isn't there one? People should be allowed to have whatever the heck they want?
Sam I Am

Chicago, IL

#77269 Dec 17, 2012
RACE wrote:
Would a 3 day (or months) waiting period have prevented this tragedy? Simple answer is NO.
You cannot prevent crazy. All the talk about cooling off, or backround checks is just feel good lip service.
If a person is going to fail a backround check, they will get a saturday night special, and if they wanna cap their wife, they will go to craigs list and get a weapon today. You cant legislate crazy, it just is.
So that's your answer? If you can't legislate something with absolute success, don't even bother trying?

Since: Jan 10

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#77270 Dec 17, 2012
We got society to change re: drunk driving in this country. The rest of the world is VERY strict. It's taken us since the '80s to make an improvement.

I don't know whether the same thing can happen with our gun culture, but I think we need to try.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#77271 Dec 17, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
We got society to change re: drunk driving in this country. The rest of the world is VERY strict. It's taken us since the '80s to make an improvement.
I don't know whether the same thing can happen with our gun culture, but I think we need to try.
You seem to hate America a lot and want to change it into a socialist country. Okay. Show me a socialist country that actually works and I'll get on board.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Braidwood, IL

#77272 Dec 17, 2012
Sam I Am wrote:
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And by your (il)logic, people should be able to do whatever they want with no regard whatsoever to societal impact.
I've asked you twice to support the appropriateness/necessity of assault weapons for ordinary citizens, and all you've given me is "'Because." It just shows a very small mind that is incapable of reason. Should citizens be allowed to have land mines? Bazookas? Tanks? Nukes? Where do you draw the line? Or isn't there one? People should be allowed to have whatever the heck they want?
Marriage should be whatever you want, anything goes. Where do you draw the line? Or shouldn't there be one?

Since: Jan 10

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#77273 Dec 17, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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You seem to hate America a lot and want to change it into a socialist country. Okay. Show me a socialist country that actually works and I'll get on board.
This isn't socialism. You just do not understand socialism, do you?

Since: Jan 10

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#77274 Dec 17, 2012
OMG. You are RETARDED.

Since: Jan 10

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#77275 Dec 17, 2012
Socialism is a form of ECONOMY. Not government.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#77276 Dec 17, 2012
beg to disagree.
sand head countries... Car bombs, suicide bombers.... Kill way more in a day than happens here.(except chicago)
What other countries have our view of guns? not many, Europe outlawed them in the name of peace, but that only served to leave the peasants subject to their masters who had the guns.
We are a unique culture, and there is no canned answer to what is plaguing us. if you break down all the wacko killings you are left with nothing but wacko's....That is what is causing the problems, not guns, not breast milk, not violent computer games... Just wacko's who have access to guns.
The answer is not to get rid of the guns....but get rid of the wacko'sq
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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If it were that simple, other countries would have similar gun-related deaths problems, but no one else does. It's our gun culture.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#77277 Dec 17, 2012
Now who is ignoring the questions... Go die you bitch. You are worthless and beyond stupid.

Sorry, my bad, I promised not to engage you any more, you are just so dammed stupid...
Sam I Am wrote:
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And by your (il)logic, people should be able to do whatever they want with no regard whatsoever to societal impact.
I've asked you twice to support the appropriateness/necessity of assault weapons for ordinary citizens, and all you've given me is "'Because." It just shows a very small mind that is incapable of reason. Should citizens be allowed to have land mines? Bazookas? Tanks? Nukes? Where do you draw the line? Or isn't there one? People should be allowed to have whatever the heck they want?

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#77278 Dec 17, 2012
To all but sam, have a great time, I am on vacation for the rest of the year. I will say a prayer for the children and if you want to use my silence to trump your own agenda, well have at it. It does not make you right, it just makes you a sick filthy opportunist, and if thats the cloak you want to wear enjoy.

Since: Feb 08

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#77279 Dec 17, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Because they're hurting no one but themselves, not drugging 20 other people and killing them.
I think some of us ARE talking about that. IMO, it falls in the same column as other mental health issues and the lack of treatment and support available.

However, I cannot comprehend having a child that I KNEW had these problems, and keeping firearms in the house AT ALL.

Since: Jun 09

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#77280 Dec 17, 2012
RACE wrote:
Now who is ignoring the questions... Go die you bitch. You are worthless and beyond stupid.
Sorry, my bad, I promised not to engage you any more, you are just so dammed stupid...
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Are you trying to portray yourself as a responsible gun owner? Your vitriol isn't helping.

No one in the Obama administration is intent upon "banning guns". The reality is that bell cannot be un-rung. We've created a very dangerous society where we do have to protect ourselves, from ourselves. I think you like it that way. I know the gun manufacturers, the corporations who own prisons and the security companies do. And that's just for starters...
Sam I Am

Chicago, IL

#77281 Dec 17, 2012
RACE wrote:
Now who is ignoring the questions... Go die you bitch. You are worthless and beyond stupid.
Sorry, my bad, I promised not to engage you any more, you are just so dammed stupid...
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I hope Rush Limbaugh appreciates that, were it not for your ilk, he would not have an audience.
And I think that what you meant to say was "Go die as the result of a home invasion by a mentally ill person armed with machine guns, you unarmed pacifist hippie bitch."
Sam I Am

Chicago, IL

#77282 Dec 17, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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Marriage should be whatever you want, anything goes. Where do you draw the line? Or shouldn't there be one?
And when you have nothing constructive to add, when you have no cogent points to make, DEFLECT!!

What, may I ask, does marriage have to do with gun control?

My thighs quiver in anticipation of your answer.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#77283 Dec 18, 2012
Expressing my disgust for a person who hold up dead babies and tries to make it my fault, is absolutely no reflection on how responsible I am, unless that is what you want to read into it.

I think that instead of them trying to change the world on this forum, they should do something real, send a message to society that things must change. You know, they should go on a hunger strike, or light themselves on fire or something.

Were all tough behind the keyboard.
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>Are you trying to portray yourself as a responsible gun owner? Your vitriol isn't helping.
No one in the Obama administration is intent upon "banning guns". The reality is that bell cannot be un-rung. We've created a very dangerous society where we do have to protect ourselves, from ourselves. I think you like it that way. I know the gun manufacturers, the corporations who own prisons and the security companies do. And that's just for starters...
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#77284 Dec 18, 2012
Abby is posted.
Amy is a public service announcement to buy hard cover books for Christmas gifts- not worth the posting effort.

Someone else post the link please.

Since: Jan 10

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#77285 Dec 18, 2012
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>I think some of us ARE talking about that. IMO, it falls in the same column as other mental health issues and the lack of treatment and support available.
However, I cannot comprehend having a child that I KNEW had these problems, and keeping firearms in the house AT ALL.
I do firmly believe that his mother had no inkling that he would behave in a violent manner. I sort of have to.

She's the one who taught him how to use guns, and took him to the range.

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#77286 Dec 18, 2012

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