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#75727 Nov 8, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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says the person whose gender and race have controlled this country since its inception.
Excuse me if I don't get excited or take pride in knowing some dead people who had junk like mine and pigmented skin like mine ruled this country.

The entire notion that one would place primacy on shared physical attributes over individual accomplishments is indicative of an imbecile.

Since: Jan 10

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#75728 Nov 8, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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Excuse me if I don't get excited or take pride in knowing some dead people who had junk like mine and pigmented skin like mine ruled this country.
The entire notion that one would place primacy on shared physical attributes over individual accomplishments is indicative of an imbecile.
I disagree. It's *human nature* and it takes a while to get past that stuff. AS in, many generations. Our country proves it.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75729 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
Exactly, Wilma totaled broward county, I was without power for 14 days, but the news never left the state. The biggest mention was the tourists all talking about the blue tarps on the houses that they say when they flew in or out.
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Without diminishiung the impact, FL gets a lot of hurricane hits and expects to be hit occasionally. Same with teh Gulf Coast.

New York/NJ does not
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75730 Nov 8, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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I was listening to NPR on the way home last night and they had a story about how important Barack Obama was to the black community and how they were on pins and needles during election night. Then they interviewed this black guy who went on to say he thinks there were a lot of racial overtones in the election and he thinks we still have a long way to go in terms of race relations.
I thought to myself, obviously, we have a long way to go when folks, whether they be black or white are voting for one guy over another simply because they share the same skin color. It's okay for black folks to rally around a candidate primarily because he's black, but if you you are white and you do that you are evil and a KKK member. I don't even think the guy or the reporter could see the hypocrisy of the whole story.
I personally think voting for someone because of the color of their skin betrays ones ignorance and bigotry, black or white.
Every group likes to see one of its own make it to the top. Catholics were giddy when Al Smith ran and giddier when Kennedy won. The Irish too. It is not bigotry at that point, it is solidarity. I see a difference

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Since: Mar 09

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#75731 Nov 8, 2012
Seriously...political chat spot.

http://www.topix.com/forum/chicago/TSU102F2IP...

Just sayin'...yanno, if anyone's interested.

Since: Aug 08

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#75732 Nov 8, 2012
Matilda77 wrote:
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While I do agree with this...how many Mormons *didn't* vote for Romney? I'm guessing not many. Or how many white people would *never* vote for a black (biracial, whatever) man. I think, unfortunately, it's human nature to side with the one you most identify with, stupid, superficial reason or not. Not disagreeing, just saying it's not just a 'black thing'.
Oh, I know very well its not just a black thing. I've seen some very disgusting thigns said about the President and I've seen folks take cheap shots at his race. That doesn't play well we me either. To me it just demonstrates ignorance. I'm certainly not giving white folks a pass.

I would like to see the day when we all move past race and can truly be color blind. That will never happen when racism by one group, even if they happen to be minorities, is tolerated and celebrated as a good thing.

I just found that story on NPR to be insulting and hypocritical on a fundamental level. Here is some guy glowing simply cause a guy who has his same color of skin was elected, while at the same time insisting that folks who would not vote for him because they have a different color of skin indicates that we have a long way to go on race relations. The people he complains of are no different than him!

Since: Aug 08

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#75733 Nov 8, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I disagree. It's *human nature* and it takes a while to get past that stuff. AS in, many generations. Our country proves it.
It's not human nature to be racist.
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#75734 Nov 8, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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I've done my share of campaigning. Know what? NONE OF MY PEOPLE WON! You know the problem with democracy? If a majority of the people are stupid, DEMOCRACY DOESN'T WORK. Jesse Jackson Jr has been ABSENT for the last six moths, he won overwhelmingly! He should never have been on the ballot! Who's running this thing?!
State democrats have raised our taxes, banned smoking, initiated backseat seatbelt laws, allowed illegals to go to school for free while citizens have to pay for education, run our state into the ground financially, denied us our second amendment rights, AND THE IDIOT VOTERS IN THIS STATE STILL, STILL AFTER ALL THAT, STILL VOTED FOR THEM TO KEEP THE SENATE!!! Thankfully, we won the house, and hopefully we'll win the governorship, but that just goes to show you how STUPID democrat voters are!
You can't educate people like that. You can't reason with them and make them understand, nothing you do can do any good. Our only chance is to take back the governorship and turn this state red again, that's gonna be a tough order, though. I'm all for letting Cook, McHenry, and Lake counties succeed from the rest of Illinios and let them form their own state. Let's get THAT on the ballot in two years.
Do you support a woman's right to choose?

Since: Aug 08

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#75735 Nov 8, 2012
PEllen wrote:
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Every group likes to see one of its own make it to the top. Catholics were giddy when Al Smith ran and giddier when Kennedy won. The Irish too. It is not bigotry at that point, it is solidarity. I see a difference
Well now that this is settled, I guess white men have permission to vote excursively for white men as a sign of solidarity.
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#75736 Nov 8, 2012
Hey, Day 2 post-election and we're all still here!! No plagues, no famines, and the world's still turnin'!! Amazing!! I surely thought that if Obama won, the world would end. Phew!!
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#75737 Nov 8, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
The TV said Obama is doing such a wonderful job dealing with Sandy. I do not believe people are still having problems.
That is a great point. He should emulate Bush's handling of Katrina. Things would be back to normal.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75738 Nov 8, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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It's not human nature to be racist.
Should we ever meet again and you ply me with liquor I will give you my theory of affinity with cognizable subgroups. I learned that at age 18 riding a motor scooter when the guys on Harley Hogs befriended me in a good camaraderie way. Same concept.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75739 Nov 8, 2012
Sam I Am wrote:
Hey, Day 2 post-election and we're all still here!! No plagues, no famines, and the world's still turnin'!! Amazing!! I surely thought that if Obama won, the world would end. Phew!!
Uh, you saw the market yesterday? Friggin 5th horseman of teh Apocalypse

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Since: Feb 09

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#75740 Nov 8, 2012
People who live on the beach or in flood prone area's need to be cognizant of the fact that storms can ruin them, no matter where that beach or flood plain is.

I have empathy but storms wash away beaches and anything on them, it is a fact. The people inland knew a major storm was coming and did not prepare, again, I feel your pain, but you should have prepared. The idiots in NY were lining up for gas, and waited for hours for a few gallons, but if they had driven north 90 miles they could have had more gas then they knew what to do with.
PEllen wrote:
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Without diminishiung the impact, FL gets a lot of hurricane hits and expects to be hit occasionally. Same with teh Gulf Coast.
New York/NJ does not

Since: Jun 09

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#75741 Nov 8, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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Excuse me if I don't get excited or take pride in knowing some dead people who had junk like mine and pigmented skin like mine ruled this country.
The entire notion that one would place primacy on shared physical attributes over individual accomplishments is indicative of an imbecile.
IDK, Sub. Since 1870 when blacks were given their special voting rights, they always supported white presidential candidates, often to the tune of 100%. Pretty narrow-minded of them, I guess. Then, in '08, they turned their backs on the white candidate and voted for one of their own. Women may do the same thing in '16 with a possible run by Hillary Clinton. Hard to figure...
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75742 Nov 8, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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Well now that this is settled, I guess white men have permission to vote excursively for white men as a sign of solidarity.
Didn't they?

Since: Aug 08

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#75743 Nov 8, 2012
PEllen wrote:
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Should we ever meet again and you ply me with liquor
Are you sure you could control yourself?:P
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#75744 Nov 8, 2012
PEllen wrote:
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Uh, you saw the market yesterday? Friggin 5th horseman of teh Apocalypse
Europe.

Since: Aug 08

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#75745 Nov 8, 2012
Ferrerman wrote:
<quoted text>IDK, Sub. Since 1870 when blacks were given their special voting rights, they always supported white presidential candidates, often to the tune of 100%. Pretty narrow-minded of them, I guess. Then, in '08, they turned their backs on the white candidate and voted for one of their own. Women may do the same thing in '16 with a possible run by Hillary Clinton. Hard to figure...
One of their own ... you mean the guy who is half white and who was raised almost exclusively by white people in Kansas?

It's also not that they voted for "one of their own" as you say, but why. Just like I'm not not automatically racist for voting for a white guy over a black guy, but am racist if I voted for the white guy cause he's white like me and the other guy isn't. That's racism, any way you slice it. It's really no different than hiring a white person because he's white, over a black person.

It's also dumb to get excited over a candidate because hey, she has a vagina, just like you (not you specifically ... well maybe J/K)!!! Hey, our parts match ... I'm gonna vote for you. That is something I would expect from a kindergartner.

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Since: Jun 09

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#75746 Nov 8, 2012
RACE wrote:
<quoted text>People who live on the beach or in flood prone area's need to be cognizant of the fact that storms can ruin them, no matter where that beach or flood plain is.

I have empathy but storms wash away beaches and anything on them, it is a fact. The people inland knew a major storm was coming and did not prepare, again, I feel your pain, but you should have prepared. The idiots in NY were lining up for gas, and waited for hours for a few gallons, but if they had driven north 90 miles they could have had more gas then they knew what to do with.
If a natural disaster wipes out entire towns, especially multiple towns in one state, I will do something (even if all I can do is make a small donation) to help the recovery effort. I may be upset with the people who ignored the mandatory evacuation warnings, but I still believe that we are a stronger country when we come together to help each other in times of need.

As for driving 90 miles to get gas, the roads are not all safe and you would waste 90 miles worth of gas driving home. The point is to have as many gallons of gas in your car as possible because they did warn us about this nor'easter. They have been letting us fill our tanks and the lines are gone now. The roads are still bad, though. A lot of trees and wires came down last night.

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