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Since: Feb 08

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#75359 Oct 31, 2012
There is this wrote:
<quoted text>OR, you could make FREE coffee for devastated, suddenly- homeless folks who have lost EVERYTHING...
Oh, but you could go pound sand. Make your own coffee, find your own shelter.

Since: Jan 10

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#75360 Oct 31, 2012
Jess in NJ wrote:
I also found out that one of the teachers at the high school collected voter registration forms from the seniors in March. Anyone who declared Democrat or Unaffiliated was sent in and registered. Anyone who declared Republican was never sent in any only realized that they weren't registered when one of the students followed up after the Oct 16 deadline, when they couldn't find their name online and the students did a little more digging. This is unfortunately not uncommon in our county. So frustrating for me and for the students who wanted to exercise their rights to vote for the first time.
Wait, what? SHe did this deliberately? Is that even legal? SHe should be banned from election work for life.

Since: Jan 10

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#75361 Oct 31, 2012
NWmoon wrote:
<quoted text>Sure, they can have it free. They can come stay with us until they've got a home again, too. At least as many as will fit in wherever we're living.
But azzhats who would drive around looking for coffee??
They can pay, and pay dearly, so I can help those who deserve it.
ITA.

Since: Jan 10

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#75362 Oct 31, 2012
Potluck at work today. My boss came in at 10:15 and then asked me and L to go make sure the big long table in a certain dept. was cleared off for the food. I declined. "I'm WORKING." Geez, S behind me was cutting out halloween stuff that she'd printed on the colo rprinter, to decorate her candy bowl. Have her do it.

I'll be asked to do clean up as well. Um, nope. I've done it before. It's someone else's turn. DO it yourself.
Sam I Am

Knoxville, TN

#75363 Oct 31, 2012
Jess in NJ wrote:
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I also found out that one of the teachers at the high school collected voter registration forms from the seniors in March. Anyone who declared Democrat or Unaffiliated was sent in and registered. Anyone who declared Republican was never sent in any only realized that they weren't registered when one of the students followed up after the Oct 16 deadline, when they couldn't find their name online and the students did a little more digging. This is unfortunately not uncommon in our county. So frustrating for me and for the students who wanted to exercise their rights to vote for the first time.
This should carry the same penalties as tampering with mail.

Since: Jan 10

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#75364 Oct 31, 2012
Sam I Am wrote:
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This should carry the same penalties as tampering with mail.
Good idea! I just think it's HORRIBLE to do that.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#75365 Oct 31, 2012
And you still think voter fraud is not a concern?
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Good idea! I just think it's HORRIBLE to do that.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#75366 Oct 31, 2012
Sam I Am wrote:
<quoted text>This should carry the same penalties as tampering with mail.
There is nothing that can be done about adding the students to the rolls after the deadline has passed, but after the election a couple of the school board members are going to make a big issue about this (they are up for re-election and everyone who currently holds a political or school board position in my town is connected to the Dem party - we asked them to hold off until after the election because they are good people who do the right thing regardless of politics, but the mayor does not take kindly to people who speak out against "his" party and he is not above fighting dirty).

We are one of the largest townships in NJ, but our politics are so corrupt. Jim McGreevey, the former NJ gov who resigned bc he made his unqualified boyfriend head of security (and lots of other things that were about to come out) is our former mayor.

“reign in blood”

Since: May 09

Chicago, IL

#75367 Oct 31, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Good idea! I just think it's HORRIBLE to do that.
Is this the type of voter fraud you say doesn't exist?

Since: Mar 09

Miami, FL

#75368 Oct 31, 2012
Our boobies costume won first prize!
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#75369 Oct 31, 2012
edogxxx wrote:
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Is this the type of voter fraud you say doesn't exist?
No, it's ELECTION FRAUD. Like a candidates son owning voting machines. Like voting machines being made by 5 HUGE contributors to a particular candidate.

To paraphrase Josef Stalin: "Voter fraud at .ooo4% of voting is a tragedy to be exploited as a dog and pony show for voter suppression. Election fraud via vote counting is a Rmoney presidency!"

That's the original Russian translation, anyway.

Toj

“Where is Everyone?”

Since: Jul 12

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#75370 Oct 31, 2012
Jess in NJ wrote:
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There is nothing that can be done about adding the students to the rolls after the deadline has passed, but after the election a couple of the school board members are going to make a big issue about this (they are up for re-election and everyone who currently holds a political or school board position in my town is connected to the Dem party - we asked them to hold off until after the election because they are good people who do the right thing regardless of politics, but the mayor does not take kindly to people who speak out against "his" party and he is not above fighting dirty).
We are one of the largest townships in NJ, but our politics are so corrupt. Jim McGreevey, the former NJ gov who resigned bc he made his unqualified boyfriend head of security (and lots of other things that were about to come out) is our former mayor.
Someone needs to tell the election judges and pass it down the line. Something needs to be done now instead of when it's convenient for THEIR election.

“bELieve”

Since: Jun 09

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#75371 Oct 31, 2012
Old saying wrote:
<quoted text>No, it's ELECTION FRAUD. Like a candidates son owning voting machines. Like voting machines being made by 5 HUGE contributors to a particular candidate.

To paraphrase Josef Stalin: "Voter fraud at .ooo4% of voting is a tragedy to be exploited as a dog and pony show for voter suppression. Election fraud via vote counting is a Rmoney presidency!"

That's the original Russian translation, anyway.
Voting fraud is one party taking note of who hasn't voted yet, walking outside and paying people to go in and say they are "John Smith" so they can vote because NJ doesn't require that you show ID, a voter registration card or proof of residency when you show up at the polls.

You can't refuse to let someone vote if you question their identity, you must fill out some lengthy paperwork to "challenge" the vote after it is cast and the board of elections will look into it.

That is a big problem in the next town over.
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#75372 Oct 31, 2012
RACE wrote:
And you still think voter fraud is not a concern?
<quoted text>
But Jess' situation would not be fixed by requiring a picture ID.
Old saying

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#75373 Oct 31, 2012
Jess in NJ wrote:
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Voting fraud is one party taking note of who hasn't voted yet, walking outside and paying people to go in and say they are "John Smith" so they can vote because NJ doesn't require that you show ID, a voter registration card or proof of residency when you show up at the polls.
You can't refuse to let someone vote if you question their identity, you must fill out some lengthy paperwork to "challenge" the vote after it is cast and the board of elections will look into it.
That is a big problem in the next town over.
And my state and others do not require photo ID either and yet, voter fraud is still a documented .0004% of MILLIONS of votes cast.

Your scenario of voting circa 1900 is true but, rather archaic. If you're familiar with magicians, you know that misdirection is key to his craft. He wants the audience to look over here while he performs his 'magic' over there. Thus it is with "VOTER fraud" versus "election fraud". If you're busy looking here, you won't look there.

A few people cheating here and there is an exercise in futility with no real pay off except at the Student Council level. But, as Mr Stalin said, "The people who cast the votes don't decide an election, the people who count the votes do." He kept getting elected that way!

Since: Jan 10

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#75374 Oct 31, 2012
So well over 20 years ago, I was given a camera as a christmas gift by my then-boyfriend. Eventually, it broke such that the film wouldn't advance. I put the camera aside and forgot about it. It's been laying around ever since, always sitting on a shelf or in a drawer. Since I'm moving, I decided it was time to deal with it. I'm pretty sure the film contains the last pictures I took of Spookee (best cat ever in the world) before he died (Nov. 2001). I knew I wanted to take it to a real camera place with a darkroom. I finally did that this afternoon.

My pictures will be ready when I stop by tomorrow morning around 11. I'm crossing my fingers that there are some good pictures in there. They threw the camera away for me.

“A Programmer is not in IT!”

Since: Feb 09

Neda, stay with me! Charlie

#75375 Oct 31, 2012
pic id and voter registration card. Seems simple enough to me!
PEllen wrote:
<quoted text>But Jess' situation would not be fixed by requiring a picture ID.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#75376 Oct 31, 2012
RACE wrote:
pic id and voter registration card. Seems simple enough to me!
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but someone turned in only PART of the voter registrations that were completed... the part that served their interests and did nothing with teh group of registrations that worked against hteir interests. not having proof of ID or registration won't help when an active member of a political party isn't doing what they should have done.

i'm about as non-political as they get, and i have a problem with what the teacher (?) did in ingoring teh registrations that were for hte other party.

Since: Jan 10

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#75377 Oct 31, 2012
Aisle Sitter wrote:
<quoted text>
but someone turned in only PART of the voter registrations that were completed... the part that served their interests and did nothing with teh group of registrations that worked against hteir interests. not having proof of ID or registration won't help when an active member of a political party isn't doing what they should have done.
i'm about as non-political as they get, and i have a problem with what the teacher (?) did in ingoring teh registrations that were for hte other party.
I don't know how she can live with herself. I seriously want her banned from election work for life.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#75378 Oct 31, 2012
There was a show on PBS that i caught part of about elections and how disfunctional they can get. It was hosted by Mo Rocca - which is why i started watching it (and switched when anotehr show that i was waiting for came on). He was lookign at some of the issues surrouding ID laws, is voting a right or a privlidge (and can felons vote), the different parties approaches to gettign out the vote, how the process works with teh electoral college - really a non-partisan, non-political civics lesson.

He did an "election" in a third grade class using popular vote and then by table to illustrate the electoral college. there was one kid who was rather articlate for a kid about how unfair the table vote was.

I may have to find the show on On Demand or the internet and watch the whole thing. If i find it, i'll post a link here if anyone wants to see it.

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