PEllen

Chicago, IL

#74852 Oct 18, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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I love that a highly respected black journalist used the term "ghetto."
"My mother can certainly be rough around the edges at times, but she also taught me to have compassion for people who have been wronged. She taught me to empathize with those who have made mistakes. But most importantly, she taught me that if you act ghetto, you should expect some ghetto stuff to happen to you."
I wonder how he deals with manifest destiny?

“I Am Mine”

Since: Dec 08

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#74853 Oct 18, 2012
Sublime1 wrote:
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They kind of went hand and hand, Tonka.
I'm not denying that to achieve Manifest Destiny, there was killing. Just saying that I feel like in my history classes, that part was not really a focus. So little so that death is not something I immediately associate with the term. I have to stop and think for a moment to dig to the second layer. There's a level of disassociation.

When you think of the pyramids in Egypt, is the fact that slaves worked and died building it at the forefront of your mind? Or is that connection only made if you think a little more about it? Its the disassociation of the what from the how. The main focus of the lesson is on the greatness of the monuments, not on who died building them.

For me, at least, a shirt with the phrase Manifest Destiny , is as ofensive as a t-shirt with the pictures of a Pyramid.

Since: Aug 08

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#74854 Oct 18, 2012
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> Just saying that I feel like in my history classes, that part was not really a focus.
ďI shall tell you of William Wallace. Historians from England will say I am a liar, but history is written by those who have hanged heroes.Ē

I too was taught manifest destiny in history class; however, I believe education to be a continual effort. I know far more now about what manifest destiny was actually about and the underlying ignorance that led to it. The people who advocated manifest destiny at that time knew people already occupied those lands. They just didnít care. They were seen as lesser beings. Thatís the way things were back then, and they were people of their times.

I donít think what we did to Native Americans is something that we should be proud of or something that should be celebrated, including the ignorant views that led us to slaughter them, steal their land, and cheat them. I also donít think that means we canít be proud of our nation as a whole. Iím sure many Native Americans feel the same as me.
Mister Tonka wrote:
<quoted text> When you think of the pyramids in Egypt, is the fact that slaves worked and died building it at the forefront of your mind? Or is that connection only made if you think a little more about it? Its the disassociation of the what from the how. The main focus of the lesson is on the greatness of the monuments, not on who died building them.
For me, at least, a shirt with the phrase Manifest Destiny , is as ofensive as a t-shirt with the pictures of a Pyramid.
They actually donít believe the pyramids were built by slaves:

http://news.discovery.com/history/pyramids-to...

I also donít think the comparison is on point. I think a more appropriate comparison is ďLebensraum.Ē Would I walk around with a t-shirt saying Lebensraum, hell no.

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#74855 Oct 18, 2012
Ange - you own the place you're in now, right? what are you planning on doing with it?

Since: Jan 10

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#74856 Oct 18, 2012
A swing with a built-in waterfall but you don't get wet.
http://www.wimp.com/waterfallswing/

Since: Jan 10

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#74857 Oct 18, 2012
Aisle Sitter wrote:
Ange - you own the place you're in now, right? what are you planning on doing with it?
Walking the hell away from it!

The building has gone downhill since riffraff have been buying units for $20K -$30K. Cigarette butts on the grounds, more dogs and people are picking up the poop. I recently did laundry in the basement laundry room (only one washer and dryer in there) and someone had spilled quite a lot of liquid laundry detergent on the washer lid, and just left it, so I cleaned it up (it had dried on at this point).

One owner on the first floor just last month used her good credit to get enough in loans from her credit union, bought my friendís unit (on the second floor) with cash, and is abandoning the unit she owns and still owes $120K on. Itís just not smart financial sense to keep paying when the values have gone down so far. So she has small loan payments that are significantly less than what her mortgage was.

Since: Jan 10

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#74858 Oct 18, 2012
*people AREN'T picking up the poop

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#74859 Oct 18, 2012
That sucks, Ang. The new place sounds cool, though.

Since: Jan 10

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#74860 Oct 18, 2012
I had no idea until just now wthat the song "Wide Awake" is by Katy Perry.

Since: Jan 10

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#74861 Oct 18, 2012
Matilda77 wrote:
That sucks, Ang. The new place sounds cool, though.
Yeah. I'd rather stay, but inertia isn't good, either.

Change is good!
PEllen

Chicago, IL

#74862 Oct 18, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Walking the hell away from it!
The building has gone downhill since riffraff have been buying units for $20K -$30K. Cigarette butts on the grounds, more dogs and people are picking up the poop. I recently did laundry in the basement laundry room (only one washer and dryer in there) and someone had spilled quite a lot of liquid laundry detergent on the washer lid, and just left it, so I cleaned it up (it had dried on at this point).
One owner on the first floor just last month used her good credit to get enough in loans from her credit union, bought my friendís unit (on the second floor) with cash, and is abandoning the unit she owns and still owes $120K on. Itís just not smart financial sense to keep paying when the values have gone down so far. So she has small loan payments that are significantly less than what her mortgage was.
It's a condo?

Won't that screw up your credit rating or are you doing a jingle key maneuver( sending the keys to the mortgage company)?

Won't the asociation come after you for the assessments?

“Fort Kickass”

Since: Sep 09

Bloomington, IL

#74863 Oct 18, 2012
I freaking love moving, but I've never moved with other people. I think it would be considerably more complicated that way.

Since: Mar 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#74864 Oct 18, 2012
PEllen wrote:
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It's a condo?
Won't that screw up your credit rating or are you doing a jingle key maneuver( sending the keys to the mortgage company)?
Won't the asociation come after you for the assessments?
Can't speak for MN but in FL, during the lowest low of the housing crisis, people were walking away with nothing except a ding on their credit score as a direct consequence. I think in Angela's case, and mine (with my house) and thousands of other people, walking away is the best business decision. FL law states that if it's your primary residence, they can't hit you for taxable income on the outstanding amount on the loan, meaning the ARE trying to get something out of the house flippers but leaving the innocent victims alone.

Since: Mar 09

Boynton Beach, FL

#74865 Oct 18, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I had no idea until just now wthat the song "Wide Awake" is by Katy Perry.
I'll bet because it runs circles around that other crap she calls music... I *hate* her other stuff but I dig "Wide Awake."

“The two baby belly, please!”

Since: Sep 09

Evanston IL

#74866 Oct 18, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
I had no idea until just now wthat the song "Wide Awake" is by Katy Perry.
I really don't know any of her songs except for "California Gurls", but Lulu made me rent her movie and I have to reluctantly admit a little respect for her.

Since: Jan 10

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#74867 Oct 18, 2012
PEllen wrote:
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It's a condo?
Won't that screw up your credit rating or are you doing a jingle key maneuver( sending the keys to the mortgage company)?
Won't the asociation come after you for the assessments?
Yes, it's a condo. Yup, it'll screw with my credit rating, but I've accepted that. Once the bank is in control, they are responsible for all condo dues.

Since: Jan 10

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#74868 Oct 18, 2012
squishymama wrote:
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I really don't know any of her songs except for "California Gurls", but Lulu made me rent her movie and I have to reluctantly admit a little respect for her.
I know the "last friday night" song, it's okay. I watched the video once. Never need to hear it or see it again. I'm just not a fan, typically, of bubble gum pop -- not that there's anything wrong with it. I did like that "firework" song mainly because the video was kind of cool, but I'm also not much for dance beat songs.

Since: Jun 09

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#74869 Oct 18, 2012
"I donít think what we did to Native Americans is something that we should be proud of or something that should be celebrated, including the ignorant views that led us to slaughter them, steal their land, and cheat them. I also donít think that means we canít be proud of our nation as a whole. Iím sure many Native Americans feel the same as me."

Ask the Native Americans you work with or the one's in your neighborhood. Maybe they got over it. Maybe not. Pack a lunch looking for them though.

Since: Jan 10

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#74870 Oct 18, 2012
I'm so freaking bored at work right now. I've been online shopping for boots (DSW doesn't carry Clarks! oh no!), holiday cards...

“It made sense at the time....”

Since: May 09

Schaumburg, IL

#74871 Oct 18, 2012
RedheadwGlasses wrote:
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Yes, it's a condo. Yup, it'll screw with my credit rating, but I've accepted that. Once the bank is in control, they are responsible for all condo dues.
yikes, well, good luck. i dont' know what we're going to do with our condo... underwater and our tenant has developed an inability to pay on time... so, we're working on figuring out what we;re going to do longer term and try not to let emotion play into it too much. doesn't help that we're baaaarely breakign even on a month-to-month basis, but add in the permit fees, extra insurance, clean up/refreshing costs put us in the red...
<sigh>

and i need a 'research project' of this nature like i need a hole in the head at this time... still helping my mom and my gramma, so that's a lot to think & worry aobut for the time being.

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