Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1509844 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Grey Ghost

Bumpass, VA

#1158499 Jun 29, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
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Grey's and nuc's uninformed posts make me want to do that too.
usual you are the clueless one..But by now you should be used to it.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1158500 Jun 29, 2014
LeosFannieMaeUs wrote:
<quoted text> Bawney Fwank and Cwith Dawd ... they gave the money out for everyone, including themselves. They probably paid for your spot behind the warehouse and Ghost's cardboard box in the Bumpass Landfill, too.
Here's another tard
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1158501 Jun 29, 2014
Nuculur option wrote:
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A Trust does not protect an estate from taxation. Look it up, moron.
You should refrain from making ignorant statements with no basis in fact.
You do this a lot. Typical of Teabags. Projection and misdirection.
But such DOES protect such from low life PUTRID money grubbing SCUM.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1158502 Jun 29, 2014
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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FALLACY FLAG THROWN..Illegal use of an Ad hominem attack. 15 yard penalty and replay the post
I agree about Elmont, which is why I left in 76
so, why use a bogus location???....

Since: Jan 11

Hackettstown, NJ

#1158503 Jun 29, 2014
Nuculur option wrote:
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You already have an ideaology based on envy, you dipshit.
Your arguments are so weak and lame!! LOL
There are various sorts of trusts used by many Americans. Typical of your Teabag hatred that you see it as all about Clinton..........
Proves how frightened you nitwits are of the Clintons.
You think the Bushes or Kochs don't use Trusts?? How stupid are you??
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""A basic revocable living trust does not reduce estate taxes by one red cent; its only purpose is to keep your property out of probate court after you die. Nor can you accomplish this trick by creatively juggling the percentages of your property each family member will receive.""
Look up residence trust.

Of course the Bushes and the Kochs use them. They're not running around claiming they're broke and in debt to pull on necessary idiot's heart strings.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1158504 Jun 29, 2014
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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I can't stand it; no one can be that dumb; it is willful ignorance. No hope for that ailment
as you prove over and over again..every time you post.

Loser-User Tic.

Since: May 11

Carlisle, PA

#1158505 Jun 29, 2014
flack wrote:
Of course, Obama and Key have much company in their hen house. Former treasury secretary Hank Paulson, for instance, recently wrote the following in the New York Times (hat tip: Thomas Lifson):
We’re staring down a climate bubble that poses enormous risks to both our environment and economy. The warning signs are clear and growing more urgent as the risks go unchecked.
This is a crisis we can’t afford to ignore. I feel as if I’m watching as we fly in slow motion on a collision course toward a giant mountain. We can see the crash coming, and yet we’re sitting on our hands rather than altering course.
We need to act now.
Yes, act now, think later. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
The irony of this is that even if the AGW thesis were correct, there would be little we could do about it. First, China and India — which together boast 36 percent of the world’s population — are rapidly building coal-fired power plants. Any Western reduction in CO2 will be dwarfed by these behemoths’ increases alone. Add to this other CO2-happy developing nations and Russia, and the fruitlessness of the uniquely Western climate-change obsession becomes apparent.
Second, there are scientists who believe that AGW is a reality, but said long ago that it was too late to do anything about it, anyway. So are we cooked? Now the good news.
Whatever the cause, there’s no reason to be afraid of the big bad climate change.
Not if it’s in the direction of rising mercury, that is.
Contrary to the doom-and-gloom rhetoric, it seems a warmer planet’s benefits far outweigh its downsides. Like eating? Note that greater temperatures probably mean more arable land. In addition, higher CO2 levels increase plant yields 30-plus percent across species; this begets better crops. This is why botanists pump the gas into their greenhouses, mind you. It’s why the age of the dinosaurs was one of dense foliage — CO2 levels were five to 10 times what they are today. The gas is not a pollutant. It’s plant food.
Moreover, as the aforementioned Jurassic CO2 levels indicate, climate change is not unprecedented. There was a time when the waters surrounding Florida were 300 feet lower and another when they were 100 feet higher. The Earth was completely or almost completely covered with snow and ice during the Cryogenian period while during another time the snow and ice were virtually gone. There have been four or five major ice ages and numerous minor ones; there are 100,000-year glacial periods followed by 12,000-year interglacials (approximations) and 1,500-year cycles of heating and cooling within them. Climate is no more stable than are people.
Speaking of which, there’s a philosophical point to be made here. The liberal climate alarmists are the first to say that humans are just animals, just part of nature like an amoeba. If this is true, however, wouldn’t we then just be another “natural” factor in naturally occurring climate change?
At most, though, we appear a negligible factor. This raises a question: Why won’t Obama, Gore, Paulson, and the other Chicken Littles fly the coop of climate fear?
One reason is that everyone needs something to give his life meaning, and, absent true faith, an environmental crusade in Gaia’s name perhaps best fits the bill. This means that, for some, leaving the Church of Warmism is like a jihadist leaving Islam. Related to this is that when you’ve devoted a good part of your life and your passion and energy to a cause, it’s hard to admit you’re wrong.
Selwyn Duke? Flack gets his climate information from a ex professional tennis player.

No wonder Flack is dumber than sh*t.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1158506 Jun 29, 2014
Teaman wrote:
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I see the hypocrisy fails you in your blind support for the Clintons. That liberal do as I say and not as I do mentality.
A trust prevents the appreciated value of a home in check.
I would hate to have an ideology based on envy.
Disgusting isn't it.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#1158507 Jun 29, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
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One of your "peeps" tried blaming me again for receiving SS which your side decided was best for me back in the 1930s.
You should tell them to stop being so silly instead.
Try to image the US "without" social security babe and then don't get back to me.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1158508 Jun 29, 2014
Nostrilis Waxmoron wrote:
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Wrong again. The executor is named in the will and is only appointed if the deceased does not leave one. Now on to your contention that "property" pays taxes, not the deceased. That is so funny I'm giving you a pass. Your other contention that "most estates are settled without ever seeing a probate judge" is incorrect. What you meant to say was that most estates are settled without going through probate court.
My contention that taxes must be paid by the deceased before money can be released to heirs is correct.
Q.E.D.
even if an executor is named in the will, he must file the will with the "court" and receive documentation as the executor.....

the probate "court" is typically the local registrar of wills....with no courtroom or judge involved unless the deceased dies intestate or the will is contested......

real estate taxes cannot be involuntarily collected from the property owner except by selling the property for taxes......

real estate can pass to the heirs with taxes due....and often does if there are no assets to pay the taxes.....

ever handle an estate yourself, dumbass????....
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1158509 Jun 29, 2014
Grey Ghost wrote:
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Being on the opposite side of Galtbot is an honor. You are dirt to me, a slimy no life dirt bag. Un-American pig.
Huh.

"Un-American pig" across from "anti-American feral tail chasing weasel"

I'm gonna set up a commie ketchup on tofu fries an tomater juice stand for refreshements during THAT ring side circus show!

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#1158510 Jun 29, 2014
John Galt wrote:
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was there some point that you were trying to make here???...
except that Reagan was far less wealthy than Hillary Clinton ....as is George Bush.....
Are you really trying to claim that George W Bush(heir to the Bush dynasty oil fortune) is poorer than Hillary Clinton? Don't make us die laughing at you! ROFLMAO !!! "Because of George W. Bush’s close ties to Texas and connections with the oil industry, the Bush family is often perceived as a bunch of oil tycoons.

In reality, however, the oil industry is just one of many in which the Bush family displayed their financial expertise. The family tradition, which continues to this day, was founded upon the pursuit of riches through investment banking and wartime business ventures.

This is why the family has had a hand in businesses from Halliburton to Merrill Lynch, and also has a history of owning major league sports teams."

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-bushes--a-...

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1158511 Jun 29, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
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Grey's and nuc's uninformed posts make me want to do that too.
Yet we prove you wrong every time. Leaving you making dumb comments like this one.

Is your State's Governor and Legislature Democrat??

Name me one Southern State with Democrats in charge.

I rest my case.

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#1158512 Jun 29, 2014
Nostrilis Waxmoron wrote:
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Heirs don't get the money from the estate until all obligations of the deceased are paid, e.g. money from the deceased goes to pay outstanding medical bills, debts, TAXES, etc.
There are NO funds from LIVING people paying those obligations. AFTER those obligations are paid then the executor disburses the remaining money from the deceased's estate to the heirs.
So.. yes, I've seen dead people pay taxes, and I've also seen dead people smarter than your dumbass.
Your being stupid is bad enough but your insistence on remaining stupid is worse.

You are clinging to the iron stove from the sinking ship's galley as a lifesaver.

Bon Appétit!
zzz

United States

#1158513 Jun 29, 2014
flack wrote:
Although the laws governing decedents' estate vary greatly from state to state, the basic process is fairly simple. Someone needs to collect the assets owned by the decedent, pay whatever debts and taxes may be owed, and then transfer the remaining property to the people entitled to the property.
Steps
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1Go through the financial records, tax returns, and other papers of the decedent to try to figure out what the decedent owned or controlled. You will be looking for bank accounts, brokerage accounts or other investments, life insurance or annuity policies, retirement plans, deeds to real estate, automobile titles, and any other evidence of anything of value. You will also be looking to see if the decedent had a will or trust.
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2If you don't find a will, but you find that the decedent owned a safe deposit box, you may need to try to get into the safe deposit box to see if there is a will in the box. The procedures vary from state to state, but the bank should know what needs to be done.
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3If you find a will, the executor (or executors) named in the will should be notified, and a decision should be made about whether to file the will for probate. It is usually not necessary to probate a will unless there is property in the name of the decedent that needs to be transferred, so if (for example) everything is in joint names with a surviving spouse or surviving children, there may be nothing to pass under the will. This is something for which the advice of a lawyer might be needed.
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4If there is a trust document, the trustees (or successor trustees) should be notified.
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5If there is no will and no trust, the property owned by the decedent will pass to the "intestate" heirs determined under state law, and one or more of those heirs (or some other qualified person) will need to file a petition for "letters of administration" in order to sell or transfer the decedent's property.
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6The procedures for probating a will, or petitioning for letters of administration, vary from state to state, and may require the services of a lawyer.
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7At this point, there should be one or more personal representatives (i.e., executors or administrators) or trustees in charge of the decedent's property, and the following steps will refer to that person (or persons) as "the fiduciary."
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8The fiduciary (or the decedent's surviving spouse, if there is one) will need to file a final income tax return for the year ending with the decedent's death. See IRS Publication 559, "Survivors, Executors, and Administrators" for details about how to file.
Someone passes away their estate goes through probate court where an executor of the estate is granted by the court usually with their attorney wherein all debts are tabulated and the paid out of the estate to the appropriate parties. The executor of the estate does not benefit from this legal action but the attorney representing the executor will receive fees at the appropriate rate per state. On a trust there are guidelines which the survivor of the trust must adhere to depending on the size of the trust it may also have a board of trustees of the trust which the survivor must adhere to guidelines set forth and must clear any usage of the trust funds through the board. Taxes on a trust are usually set up on the amount of funds received by the survivor from the trust for personal use say cash would be taxed that is why most trust beneficiaries live in homes, drive cars and own yachts which are owned by the trust.

Remember John Kerry explaining all the SUV's and other equipment he uses isn't his but owned by the 'family trust' of the late Heinz...Teresa Heinz Kerry's first husband.

Since: Sep 10

Location hidden

#1158514 Jun 29, 2014
John Galt wrote:
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even if an executor is named in the will, he must file the will with the "court" and receive documentation as the executor.....
the probate "court" is typically the local registrar of wills....with no courtroom or judge involved unless the deceased dies intestate or the will is contested......
real estate taxes cannot be involuntarily collected from the property owner except by selling the property for taxes......
real estate can pass to the heirs with taxes due....and often does if there are no assets to pay the taxes.....
ever handle an estate yourself, dumbass????....
What a stupid argument you two are having.

Completely off topic.

Take it offline.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#1158515 Jun 29, 2014
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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They can give their estates away before they die
check the tax laws......

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#1158516 Jun 29, 2014
Jenks wrote:
The VA has spent just under 500 million dollars on solar panels and windmills...meanwhile are vets die from lack of care!
To a Liberal, being Politically Correct always supersedes morality.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1158517 Jun 29, 2014
Nostrilis Waxmoron wrote:
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Wrong again. The Probate Judge, not the executor, will determine what is and isn't paid out of the estate. The Probate Judge will not release money to the heirs until all obligations of the deceased are paid, including any taxes.
My original contention, you cannot escape taxes by dying, stands as correct.
I accept your apology.
The only two things for certain in life-

Taxes and death.

Even for you occupy anyone elses anything, robbinghoodieTic parasite loserTic dolluh licking whinebags.

(and you should be apologizing to Galt...for subjecting him to such unbelievable levels of abject ignorance!)

Since: May 11

Carlisle, PA

#1158518 Jun 29, 2014
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Liberals aka democrats aka progressives also know as communists have said the Tea Party is dead, over and over again. Now Real Dave is saying the Tea Party is alive and well!
Amen.
Alive & dumber than sh*t

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