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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141443 May 25, 2014
this is what happens when you act like a FOXbot.

A highly bitter war of words has broken out between veterans organizations and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs amid the brewing controversy over health care for former servicemen and servicewomen.

Late Friday afternoon before the Memorial Day weekend, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) penned an “open letter to America’s Veterans” in which he took several veterans service groups to task for being insufficiently critical of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki.

Burr accused the groups (with the exception of the American Legion) of being more invested in maintaining access to the secretary than with fixing a troubled health care system. He questioned why they haven't called for a leadership change at the VA, and pointedly charged the groups’ leaders with not caring about the health and well-being of their members.

Burr’s letter was in response to the testimony that Shinseki and seven of these veteran service organizations (VSO) had given before his committee the week prior, concerning revelations and allegations of long wait times, bureaucratic malfeasance and insufficient care at the VA.

Not surprisingly, leaders at the veterans groups Burr named were not pleased with the letter.

In their own letter, Veterans of Foreign Wars responded to Burr by calling his letter a “monumental cheap-shot” and labeling it “one of the most dishonorable and grossly inappropriate acts that we’ve witnessed in more than forty years of involvement with the veteran community.” If the tone wasn’t clear, the group added that Burr’s conduct and allegations were “ugly and mean-spirited in every sense of the words and profoundly wrong, both logically and morally,” in addition to breaching “the standards of the United States Senate.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/25/rich...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141444 May 25, 2014
In VA Scandal Fallout, Disabled American Veterans ‘Outraged’ at Burr, Blames Congress for Lack of Funding

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/in-va-scandal-...

how in the hell is FOX going to spin that?

they'll just ignore it.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141445 May 25, 2014
DAV is outraged that North Carolina’s Senator Richard Burr chose the eve of Memorial Day weekend – a sacred time to remember and honor those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our nation — to attack the patriotism of leaders of most of the nation’s leading veterans service organizations.

Last week at a hearing of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, DAV and other veteran service organizations offered comprehensive testimony on the underlying causes of the waiting list problems afflicting VA health care facilities that are currently under investigation. In addition to demanding full accountability for anyone found to have violated VA rules, regulations or laws, we provided detailed analysis and forward-looking recommendations to address the root cause of waiting lists: lack of access and capacity to treat all veterans seeking care.

Although Senator Burr attended much of that hearing, apparently all he wanted to hear were calls for the VA Secretary to resign. Senator Burr may be enamored with the idea that all of VA’s problems and challenges can be overcome by replacing one Secretary, but the plain facts and simple logic indicate otherwise. If Senator Burr believes that calling for the resignation of Secretary Shinseki is the only measure of whether a leader cares about veterans, perhaps he should check with Speaker Boehner, Chairman Miller and numerous Republican Senate colleagues who have not yet done so.

Regrettably, Senator Burr shows no interest in pursuing serious policy solutions, preferring instead to launch cheap political attacks on the integrity of leaders of veterans organizations that do not agree with him, all of whom served honorably to defend this nation and then devoted all or most of their lives to serving their fellow veterans.

In spite of Senator Burr’s attacks, we will continue to call for an open and comprehensive investigation in Phoenix and at any other VA facility where wrongdoings are alleged. While Senator Burr challenges our integrity, we will continue to demand full accountability for all who violated the public trust, regardless of who or where they are, including criminal prosecution if warranted. While Senator Burr ignores VA’s real challenges, we will continue to call for an independent review not just of VA’s wait list and scheduling problems, but the access and capacity deficits that created them.

History clearly shows that unless VA receives sufficient resources to hire enough doctors and nurses, and has enough physical space to treat veterans, waiting list problems will continue. Over the past decade, DAV – along with many of our veteran service organization partners – have pointed out that the VA has received more than $17 billion less than was needed, a figure that is primarily derived from VA’s own internal analysis. Although these facts have been clear to successive Administrations and Congresses – including Senator Burr – none took the actions necessary to provide VA the resources it requires.

Rather than be distracted by Senator Burr’s hollow insults, we will continue to reach out to thoughtful Republicans and Democrats in the Senate and House, as well as the President and leaders in VA, to join with us in taking an honest look at all the facts, to discuss with us all possible remedies and reforms and to work with us to implement solutions that truly honor the heroism of the men and women we remember this Memorial Day weekend.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/in-va-scandal-...

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141446 May 25, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
<quoted text>
Please stop. You're wearing yourself out and going nowhere.
Read Rubio's immigration reform. The climate is going to change on a pristine planet. Obama is going to pursue the pipeline as soon as it's politically expedient. Secularist progressives are the only ones forcing their "religion" on everyone. And encouraging personal responsibility to prevent unwanted children is never tiring.
The rest is nonsensical bantering, frankly, and not worth the time to respond.
Hmmm. You are the one who was touting Canada's voter ID law and now you believe it is "nonsensical bantering". You must get really tired with all your back peddling. How about it? If you think Canada's voting ID laws are so great, are you willing to adopt their model for the United States?
Nostrilis Waxman

Anonymous Proxy

#1141447 May 25, 2014
Nostrilis Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Waxman has been outside since his last post as Waxman from Windsor, you moron. Maybe you should hobble out with your walker and get some fresh air, you idiot.
Bwaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaaa!! Wrong, I've been right here judging posts and playing with my socks!

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141448 May 25, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
Once again...
If the VA is indicative of layers and layers of bureaucracy and the prelude to Obamacare, how is it going to be different for the entire population?
Can't one liberal answer that question?
The VA is not a prelude to Obamacare. The very reason Obamacare prohibited the sale of health insurance across state lines is so that we won't have a single national insurance standard like the VA. It's the Republicans who want to extend a VA type system to the entire population. One size just doesn't fit all.
Michelle

Cranberry Twp, PA

#1141449 May 25, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
this is what happens when you act like a FOXbot.
A highly bitter war of words has broken out between veterans organizations and the ranking member of the Senate Committee on Veterans Affairs amid the brewing controversy over health care for former servicemen and servicewomen.
Late Friday afternoon before the Memorial Day weekend, Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) penned an “open letter to America’s Veterans” in which he took several veterans service groups to task for being insufficiently critical of Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki.
Burr accused the groups (with the exception of the American Legion) of being more invested in maintaining access to the secretary than with fixing a troubled health care system. He questioned why they haven't called for a leadership change at the VA, and pointedly charged the groups’ leaders with not caring about the health and well-being of their members.
Burr’s letter was in response to the testimony that Shinseki and seven of these veteran service organizations (VSO) had given before his committee the week prior, concerning revelations and allegations of long wait times, bureaucratic malfeasance and insufficient care at the VA.
Not surprisingly, leaders at the veterans groups Burr named were not pleased with the letter.
In their own letter, Veterans of Foreign Wars responded to Burr by calling his letter a “monumental cheap-shot” and labeling it “one of the most dishonorable and grossly inappropriate acts that we’ve witnessed in more than forty years of involvement with the veteran community.” If the tone wasn’t clear, the group added that Burr’s conduct and allegations were “ugly and mean-spirited in every sense of the words and profoundly wrong, both logically and morally,” in addition to breaching “the standards of the United States Senate.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/25/rich...
Very often the leadership of these veterans groups are overpaid bureaucrats who are in bed with the VA officials when they should be maintaining an adversarial relationship. They like the cocktail parties and White House receptions. We can buy them off really cheap.
Michelle

Cranberry Twp, PA

#1141450 May 25, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
DAV is outraged that North Carolina’s Senator Richard Burr chose the eve of Memorial Day weekend – a sacred time to remember and honor those who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our nation — to attack the patriotism of leaders of most of the nation’s leading veterans service organizations.
Last week at a hearing of the Senate Veterans’ Affairs Committee, DAV and other veteran service organizations offered comprehensive testimony on the underlying causes of the waiting list problems afflicting VA health care facilities that are currently under investigation. In addition to demanding full accountability for anyone found to have violated VA rules, regulations or laws, we provided detailed analysis and forward-looking recommendations to address the root cause of waiting lists: lack of access and capacity to treat all veterans seeking care.
Although Senator Burr attended much of that hearing, apparently all he wanted to hear were calls for the VA Secretary to resign. Senator Burr may be enamored with the idea that all of VA’s problems and challenges can be overcome by replacing one Secretary, but the plain facts and simple logic indicate otherwise. If Senator Burr believes that calling for the resignation of Secretary Shinseki is the only measure of whether a leader cares about veterans, perhaps he should check with Speaker Boehner, Chairman Miller and numerous Republican Senate colleagues who have not yet done so.
Regrettably, Senator Burr shows no interest in pursuing serious policy solutions, preferring instead to launch cheap political attacks on the integrity of leaders of veterans organizations that do not agree with him, all of whom served honorably to defend this nation and then devoted all or most of their lives to serving their fellow veterans.
In spite of Senator Burr’s attacks, we will continue to call for an open and comprehensive investigation in Phoenix and at any other VA facility where wrongdoings are alleged. While Senator Burr challenges our integrity, we will continue to demand full accountability for all who violated the public trust, regardless of who or where they are, including criminal prosecution if warranted. While Senator Burr ignores VA’s real challenges, we will continue to call for an independent review not just of VA’s wait list and scheduling problems, but the access and capacity deficits that created them.
History clearly shows that unless VA receives sufficient resources to hire enough doctors and nurses, and has enough physical space to treat veterans, waiting list problems will continue. Over the past decade, DAV – along with many of our veteran service organization partners – have pointed out that the VA has received more than $17 billion less than was needed, a figure that is primarily derived from VA’s own internal analysis. Although these facts have been clear to successive Administrations and Congresses – including Senator Burr – none took the actions necessary to provide VA the resources it requires.
Rather than be distracted by Senator Burr’s hollow insults, we will continue to reach out to thoughtful Republicans and Democrats in the Senate and House, as well as the President and leaders in VA, to join with us in taking an honest look at all the facts, to discuss with us all possible remedies and reforms and to work with us to implement solutions that truly honor the heroism of the men and women we remember this Memorial Day weekend.
http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/in-va-scandal-...
Only the government keeps giving more money to incompetent employees. If Barack didn't need their votes, he would draw a red line in the sand and tell them to start working harder or he would impose sanctions.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141451 May 25, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
Here are just a few Democrats - before some of them turned into weasels - who voted for the Iraq War:
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Breaux (D-LA)
Cantwell (D-WA)
Carnahan (D-MO)
Carper (D-DE)
Cleland (D-GA)
Clinton (D-NY)
Daschle (D-SD)
Dodd (D-CT)
Dorgan (D-ND)
Edwards (D-NC)
Feinstein (D-CA)
Harkin (D-IA)
Hollings (D-SC)
Johnson (D-SD)
Kerry (D-MA)
Kohl (D-WI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Miller (D-GA)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Reid (D-NV)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Schumer (D-NY)
Torricelli (D-NJ)
The rest can be found here in both the House and Senate:
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_ca...
Sure were a lot of clueless Democrats voting for something they weren't even given the same information everyone else had.
Yes. A whole lot of people were taken in by Bush's lie about seeking a U.N. resolution.
Michelle

Cranberry Twp, PA

#1141452 May 25, 2014
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
The VA is not a prelude to Obamacare. The very reason Obamacare prohibited the sale of health insurance across state lines is so that we won't have a single national insurance standard like the VA. It's the Republicans who want to extend a VA type system to the entire population. One size just doesn't fit all.
The ACA is just a temporary placeholder for the National Health Service. But thank you for your support in maintaining the illusion.

#BringBackOurGirls

Can we count on your support in 2016?
Michelle

Cranberry Twp, PA

#1141453 May 25, 2014
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
The VA is not a prelude to Obamacare. The very reason Obamacare prohibited the sale of health insurance across state lines is so that we won't have a single national insurance standard like the VA. It's the Republicans who want to extend a VA type system to the entire population. One size just doesn't fit all.
Although we appreciate your support, you old ladies need to understand the ACA. One size fits all is a fundamental principle.

Thank you for your support.

#MichelleForNobelPeacePrize
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141454 May 25, 2014
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Very often the leadership of these veterans groups are overpaid bureaucrats who are in bed with the VA officials when they should be maintaining an adversarial relationship. They like the cocktail parties and White House receptions. We can buy them off really cheap.
so you're saying that the veterans that are running those organizations don't deserve the respect that any other veteran does?

typical wing nut. probably couldn't figure out why Rush had to try to deny he said "phony soldiers".

i can tell you why.....he got hung out to dry. so you just keep doing that thing you're doing.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141455 May 25, 2014
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
scandal.....
Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly and Republican Party operative Karl Rove agree that veterans are being mistreated as they endure long waits for medical treatment, but the two clashed Wednesday over who's to blame.
O'Reilly blasted President Barack Obama's handling of the growing scandal, in which some veterans were placed on secret waiting lists to mask the real time it was taking for them to be seen by doctors at Veterans Administration hospitals.
But he told Rove that President George W. Bush wasn't blameless because wait times were also bad during his presidency.
Rove served in Bush's White House and was quick to tell O'Reilly that even Bush inherited the problem, which he said has been an ongoing issue for two or three decades.
Bush increased funding and cut the wait time for determining eligiblity in half as well as making other improvements, Rove argued.
O'Reilly cut in, telling him, "I want you to step out of your partisan shoes for a moment."
O'Reilly then quoted from a report given to the Obama transition team that said long waiting times were "systemic."
Rove said the report wasn't issued by the VA, but O'Reilly was having none of it.
"Mr. Rove, you're wrong," O'Reilly said.
"Let me finish, Bill," Rove replied.
"Nope. Let me quote so the audience knows," O'Reilly insisted.
Read Latest Breaking News from Newsmax.com http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Bill-OReilly...
so once again the real scandal seems to be that Obama has been remiss in cleaning up another Bush mess.
It's a recurring theme. Republicans always pass the buck until there is a Democratic president then, on one hand, they demand action while, on the other hand, refusing to cooperate with the President in retaliation to the people who elected a Democrat in the first place. Pathetic cretins.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141456 May 25, 2014
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Only the government keeps giving more money to incompetent employees. If Barack didn't need their votes, he would draw a red line in the sand and tell them to start working harder or he would impose sanctions.
'keeps'

starting in 2002. even FOX has had a run at the truth of it.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#1141457 May 25, 2014
Michelle wrote:
<quoted text>
Time for the Zionist NBA owners to share the wealth with the African-American players and fans. Sterling is just the tip of the iceberg.
None Zionist owners are cool?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141458 May 25, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
<quoted text>
Here's the truth fella....
When the IRS scandal first reached the public eye, President Obama expressed anger and outrage at the IRS’ targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status.
“If in fact IRS personnel engaged in the kind of practices that have been reported on and were intentionally targeting conservative groups, then that’s outrageous. And there’s no place for it. Americans have a right to be angry about it, and I’m angry about it."
~Barack Obama
Barack Obama furiously dismissed as a “political circus” Republican charges that his administration had misled the public about the Sept. 12, 2012, attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya.
“There’s no ‘there’ there.”
~Barack Obama
Trying to gain public support for his signature law, Barack Obama repeatedly lied to the American public.
"If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan. Period. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. Period."
~Barack Obama
And as for "getting to the bottom" of any of these once feigned "outrageous" scandals, they were eventually simply swept under the rug after the liberal media hid under their desks instead of doing their jobs.
That's the truth.
If you would remove that tin foil hat, truth might actually be able to penetrate into your brain. Until then, there is no hope for you.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#1141459 May 25, 2014
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
I am outraged about Allen West lying about President Obama.
West is sofa king stupid he thinks placated the Tea Party gains him any respect whatsoever.
He does it so Fox will pay him to be on their network.
Yeah, yeah. He's an Uncle Tom too, right? Obama's taken the Presidency to new lows. It's downright embarrassing.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1141460 May 25, 2014
VFW Torches Burr in Spat Over VA Scandal, Shinseki

The VFW responded late Saturday with a lengthy missive of its own.

“I will afford you the same amount of respect you demonstrated for the Veterans of Foreign Wars by the monumental cheap-shot and posturing you’ve engaged in by enlisting in an absolutely disgusting ambush style of politics,” the three-page letter began.

“Without the courtesy or benefit of conversation or dialogue with me or the VFW Adjutant General regarding your disagreement with VFW’s recent testimony to your committee, you chose instead to take the low road and question VFW’s motives and levy a pejorative personal attack on VFW staff.

“Senator, this is clearly one of the most dishonorable and grossly inappropriate acts that we’ve witnessed in more than forty years of involvement with the veteran community and breaches the standards of the United States Senate. Your allegations are ugly and mean-spirited in every sense of the words and are profoundly wrong, both logically and morally. Quite frankly Senator, you should be ashamed.”

The fight stemming from the VA scandal comes as President Barack Obama has granted Shinseki a reprieve for now but has demanded improvements.

Burr dismissed the criticism Sunday, suggesting his letter outraged groups more than the VA scandal.

The VFW letter condinues, calling Burr’s letter “disgusting,” accusing Congress of repeatedly ignoring its warnings about wait times over many years and suggesting that they will no longer be as “polite” with Congress in the future.

http://blogs.rollcall.com/wgdb/vfw-torches-bu...

Hillary thanks Mr. Burr for his help with her campaign strategy.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1141461 May 25, 2014
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"uselesssinceforever000 "
Typical liberal response. Blame Bush. the boy president nobama is in charge. It is Bush's fault that he did not know of the many year old problem in the VA until he read it in the newspaper?
Peace
KMA
GPUAR
Typical Republican response. "Democrats are held to a higher standard. Bush isn't accountable for his mistakes."

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#1141462 May 25, 2014
Incognito4Ever wrote:
Last post from Woodward's book was Truth #2...correction.
Truth #3:
Boehner told Woodward:'They never had their act together. The president, I think, was ill-served by his team. Nobody in charge, no process. I just don't know how the place works. To this day, I can't tell you how the place works. There's no process for making a decision in this White House. There's nobody in charge."
Of course nobody's in charge. Magic Negro is Nobody.

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