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Waxman

Windsor, CT

#1055906 Jan 7, 2014
From the idiot defender of socialism that said Sweden was doing "just fine" as they were having their 5th day of riots:
PDUPONT wrote:
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Look who's talking Carol, that's like the hydrant pissing on the dog.
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#1055907 Jan 7, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
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That's probably the most ridiculous assumption anyone has ever posted on here. And there have been some pretty ridiculous assumptions posted on here.
Republicans were known as the Party of Freedom. They envisioned “free soil, free speech, free labor” and, under the leadership of President Lincoln, the GOP became the Party of the Union as well.
It was President Lincoln who issued the Emancipation Proclamation, but it was the entire Republican Party who freed the slaves. The 1864 Republican National Convention called for the abolition of slavery, and Congressional Republicans passed the 13th Amendment unanimously, with only a few Democrat votes.
The early women’s rights movement was solidly Republican, as it was a continuation of abolitionism. Susan B. Anthony and other suffragette activists were careful not to be too partisan but most favored the GOP. The 19th Amendment was written by a Republican senator and garnered greater support from Republicans than from Democrats.
By 1870, the Massachusetts Republican State Convention had already seated two suffragettes, Lucy Stone and Mary A. Livermore, as delegates. Two alternates, Therese A. Jenkins and Cora G. Carleton, were also sent to the 1892 Republican Convention.
http://www.nfrw.org/republicans/women/suffrag...
And here's the real kicker:
26 of the 36 states that ratified the Amendment had Republican legislatures. Of the nine states that voted against ratification, eight were Democratic. Twelve states, all Republican, had given women full suffrage before the federal amendment was ratified.
Want me explain the GOP's history of passing civil rights legislation next?
Once again Carol you're talking about ancient history. I'm not talking about labels like Democrat or Republican but political philosophy. Yes at one time Republicans were the more progressive party and the Democratic Party was more conservative and even racist but that's no longer the case.
The progressives that you love to bash were in fact the ones who wrote the Constitution, fought against slavery, advocated for women's suffrage and fought for civil rights. The conservatives were against all of these things.
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#1055908 Jan 7, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
One more little interesting fact for PDupont....
Frederick Douglass also spoke at the Seneca Falls Convention in support of women's right to vote.
Frederick Douglass was one of many black Republicans elected into public office right after the Civil War.
The first black Democrat wasn't elected to public office until the mid 1930s and only then were blacks welcomed back onto the Democratic Plantation because of the New Deal. Nearly every black by 1940 had abandoned the party who championed them since before and after the Civil War choosing to be taken care of by big government over freedom and personal choice. The majority have remained there ever since.
But that's beginning to change.
Once again Carol you're confusing labels like Democrat and Republican with political philosophy.
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1055909 Jan 7, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
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Once again Carol you're confusing labels like Democrat and Republican with political philosophy.
RealDave sock PDUPONT.. how cute...

It's the culture...
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#1055910 Jan 7, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
Well, I can see I have to reiterate and simplify a few things....
Republicans, known as the Party of Freedom, became the Party of the Union under Lincoln as well.
The Republican Party freed the slaves after the 1864 Republican National Convention called for the abolition of slavery and Congressional Republicans passed the 13th Amendment unanimously, with only a few Democrat votes.
The 19th Amendment and women's right to vote was written by a Republican senator and received greater support from Republicans than Democrats.
(It seems important to help PDupont get his facts straight.)
Ancient history Carol, the Republican Party isn't remotely the same as it was under Lincoln or Theodore Roosevelt. It has been steadily co-opted by big business and the religious right.
At any rate Carol, we weren't talking about Democrats and Republicans, we were talking
about progressive vs conservative political philosophies.
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1055911 Jan 7, 2014
RealDave sock PDUPONT, two monikers the never acknowledge one or the other... Both are the same..

cute...

It's the culture
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1055912 Jan 7, 2014
Waxman wrote:
DuPont gets his morning dose of hate and shows his sunshine:
<quoted text>
Typical vile socialist.
Do you realize RealDave and his sock PDUPONT are one in the same? Dumbass Dave can make his location say anything or nothing like all other registered monikers can...

It's the culture...
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1055913 Jan 7, 2014
Post number 105591 typo correction: two monikers that never acknowledge...
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#1055914 Jan 7, 2014
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Sorry folks, but I could spend all day responding to this one post.
Political parties didn't even exist in 1789. And George Washington despised the idea of political associations - believing they pitted one group of citizens against another. In his farewell speech in 1796 he said:
"The very idea of the power and the right of the people to establish Government presupposes the duty of every individual to obey the established Government."
Washington probably wouldn't have been a liberal because Democrats are all about party and party power.
Alexander Hamilton was extremely opposed to a decentralized government and would have fit nicely into the far left's radical category today.
Thomas Jefferson and James Madison believed the central government's role was strictly national defense, international and interstate commerce, treaties and a postal system but that EVERYTHING else was a state or local matter.
Solidly, both would have been conservative material today.
Ben Franklin was a true centrist - more the philosopher than politician.
John Hancock held the same views as Jefferson and Madison but wasn't politically motivated to enter national politics choosing instead to serve as governor of his state for 11 years.
So PDupont's assertion that all Founding Fathers would have been in a Hillary for President 2016 ad is preposterous.
Sure Carol and the Republicans aren't about the power of their party, that's why Republican states have been attempting to suppress the votes of those more likely to vote Democratic.
Here's an interesting quote from Thomas Jefferson;
"It should seem then that it must be because of the enormous wealth, which places them above attention to the increase of their revenues, that I am conscious that an equal division of property is impracticable, but [that] the consequences of this enormous inequality producing so much misery to the bulk of mankind, legislators cannot invent too many devices for subdividing property. Another means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise."
The letter, written Sept. 28, 1785, is by Thomas Jefferson to James Madison. Jefferson was describing the conditions in France before the Revolution.
Wow! sounds like wealth redistribution to me.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1055915 Jan 7, 2014
No Surprize wrote:
RealDave sock PDUPONT, two monikers the never acknowledge one or the other... Both are the same..
cute...
It's the culture
You should spend more time working on your GED and less time chasing down imaginary conspiracies.

Its the dumbass right wing culture.
Buroc Millhouse Obama

Newington, CT

#1055916 Jan 7, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
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Once again Carol you're confusing labels like Democrat and Republican with political philosophy.
Obviously, you are the confused one:

Frederick Douglass said, "I am a black, died-in-the-wool Republican and I never intend to belong to any other party than the party of freedom ...

The Republican Party remains the Party of Freedom.

The Democrat Party has become the party of propaganda, dependency, ignorance & hate.

You are a prime example.
Buroc Millhouse Obama

Newington, CT

#1055917 Jan 7, 2014
Emeem wrote:
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You should spend more time working on your GED and less time chasing down imaginary conspiracies.
Its the dumbass right wing culture.
You should go back to Bumpass.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1055918 Jan 7, 2014
Waxman wrote:
RealDave also gets his morning dose of hate and shows his sunshine:
<quoted text>
Actually, your remarks are stupid DumbDave. There in fact is nothing in the constitution that says all people must earn a certain amount. The federal government has and is especially now exceeding by far what was envisioned. Your Socialist Party is the nanny intrusive state for sure.
How can you be so stupid? Socialism has failed every time in history, yet you morons are repeating history. You are the definition of insanity.
Actually, I have never said anything abut people earning a certain amount beyond supporting a higher minimum wage.

I know of no liberals who think people should all earn the same.

This is just another fake story you brainless right whiners make up & all gather around the fire & jerk off to.

I have some news, there are lots of socialistic programs here in the US that have been supported by Republicans so I guess you must be a socialist.

There are certain issues best addressed by the government.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1055919 Jan 7, 2014
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
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You should go back to Bumpass.
You don't have to post everything the voices in your head tell you.
dem

Chicago, IL

#1055920 Jan 7, 2014
Morning inbred tea bag terrorists!
dem

Chicago, IL

#1055921 Jan 7, 2014
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
<quoted text>You should go back to Bumpass.
Nostrilfuckface for sure
dem

Chicago, IL

#1055922 Jan 7, 2014
No Surprize wrote:
RealDave sock PDUPONT, two monikers the never acknowledge one or the other... Both are the same..

cute...

It's the culture
Retard heeb pulled another all nighter. Like his daughter.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1055923 Jan 7, 2014
PDUPONT wrote:
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Ancient history Carol, the Republican Party isn't remotely the same as it was under Lincoln or Theodore Roosevelt. It has been steadily co-opted by big business and the religious right.
At any rate Carol, we weren't talking about Democrats and Republicans, we were talking
about progressive vs conservative political philosophies.
You really need a history lesson. Corporations have been part of every political machine since the very beginning. To put your nose into your own diaper, the banksters on Wall Stree that collapsed the economy gave so much money to Obama, it was only Christopher Dodd in the entire Congress they gave more money to. The largest automanufacturer in the world is so close to the Democrat Party, you can't see daylight between them.
Religion has always been part of the political landscape. The only difference is, today, the Democrats have adopted Islam and accepted their obligation to the Arab Islamists to be at war with Christianity.
The Democrats ally themselves with a religion that practices slavery, denies women rights, and condones, even promotes killing anyone not of their faith, and you're so goddam stupid you think that is progressive? That's as regressive and conservative as you can get.
The Democrats are run by Marxist communists who adhere to an impossible ideology that has proven itself to be a failed philosophy in every instance it was instituted without exception, and you call yourself progressive? Marxism enslaves populations in poverty being ruled by an elite cadre who exempt themselves from the draconian rules they institute, and you call someone else a conservative?

Please tell us you're just pretending to be this stupid. You are about as medieval radical conservative as anyone can possibly be.
We, on the other hand, adhere to the liberal and progressive ideas expressed in the Constitution, guaranteeing everyone individual rights and a limited government.

I just have to ask. What is it about radical medieval conservatism that is so appealing to you?
You can't really be this stupid.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1055924 Jan 7, 2014
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I have never said anything abut people earning a certain amount beyond supporting a higher minimum wage.
I know of no liberals who think people should all earn the same.
This is just another fake story you brainless right whiners make up & all gather around the fire & jerk off to.
I have some news, there are lots of socialistic programs here in the US that have been supported by Republicans so I guess you must be a socialist.
There are certain issues best addressed by the government.
So, you agree that no employer should be forced to pay more than what they think a person is worth, right? Then why do we even have a minimum wage? Why don't we just get rid of it?
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1055925 Jan 7, 2014
dem wrote:
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The definition of safe sex at my urban paradise, dem placing signs on the animals and tea baggers that kick.
It's the culture...

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