Barack Obama, our next President

There are 20 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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tell it like it is

Norman, OK

#1049652 Dec 30, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Poll: Obama, Clinton Most Admired Man And Woman
Obama led the second most admired man, former President George W. Bush, by 12 points.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama_m...
a republican will never top the list.
does anyone do a most hated poll?
Talking Points Memo????
"If you look at the ass end of a donkey all you will see is shit'

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1049653 Dec 30, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Yes good people that need help should get the voluntary support of those that want to help them, do you agree?
No, when I was laid off I couldn't even borrow money because I didn't have a job. I did have a house payment, car payment, health insurance payment and two little kids to feed. There was no "voluntary" support. I was fortunate enough to have parents that loaned me money they could barely afford. Eventually I was able to find another job and start over and pay back my parents. Some people don't have parents that can afford to help and some people can't find jobs that can support a family. What about them?

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1049654 Dec 30, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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Merriam Webster dictionary defines secularism as: indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations.
So where's the part about being superior Carol? It's not there.
Secularism as a modern political and constitutional principle involves two basic propositions. The first is that people belonging to different faiths and sections of society are equal before the law, the Constitution and government policy. The second requirement is that there can be no mixing up of religion and politics. It follows therefore that there can be no discrimination against anyone on the basis of religion or faith nor is there room for the hegemony of one religion or majoritarian religious sentiments and aspirations. It is in this double sense--no discrimination against anyone on grounds of faith and separation of religion from politics. These political principles imply also the acceptance of a somewhat more general principle: that the realm of validity of religion in the public arena and society is necessarily limited. Religion, being above all a matter of personal faith, cannot be used as the basis of settling questions of the real world, or of man in society. While individuals in society may base their values on particular religious tenets, where such questions impinge on society as a whole the basis of discussion and social consensus cannot be religion--much less one particular religion. This larger principle does not conflict with the historical fact that certain values in a society may have their foundation in religion; these values are re-examined in a rational and humane spirit before they are accepted as the values that govern the functioning of a modern society, and new values indeed are created which are necessary for modern times.
Nowhere in the Constitution is there any mention of the "validity of religion in the public arena and society" as being "necessarily limited."

Progressive secularism intends to silence any expression of "freedom of religion" which IS in the Constitution - and primarily Christians' expression of "freedom of religion".

When progressive secularists publicly state people of faith haven't "evolved" yet, that's the part about being superior,

You actually negated your own argument in your first sentence by reiterating the definition of secularism - "rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations." That's also called intolerance.
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1049655 Dec 30, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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you're using the same stuff you used 2 years ago.
seems your brain has been pasted.
sonicmoron always a cut-n-paste self-congratulatory discussion, where little to no brain activity or thought progress is never made...

It's the culture..
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1049656 Dec 30, 2013
Researchers aboard that ice bound ship in Antarctica learned today they will need to wait longer for a rescue.

An Antarctic blizzard has halted an Australian icebreaker's bid to reach a Russian ship trapped for a week with 74 people onboard, rescuers said on Monday.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/blizzard-stops-la...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049657 Dec 30, 2013
tell it like it is wrote:
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Talking Points Memo????
"If you look at the ass end of a donkey all you will see is shit'
glutton for punishment?

Obama, Clinton Continue Reign as Most Admired

Sixth year in a row for Obama, 12th straight year for Clinton

http://www.gallup.com/poll/166646/obama-clint...
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1049658 Dec 30, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Poll: Obama, Clinton Most Admired Man And Woman
Obama led the second most admired man, former President George W. Bush, by 12 points.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/obama_m...
a republican will never top the list.
does anyone do a most hated poll?
sonicmoron always trying to turn un-newsworthy superlative bias and exaggerated chicken shit websites into chicken salad bullshit...

Whois: talkingpointsmemo.com

Opinionated politics: Commentary on political events from a politically left perspective, by Joshua Micah Marshall.

un-newsworthy superlative bias and exaggerated or hyperbolical expression of leftwing opinion or socialist perspective...

It's the culture...

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1049659 Dec 30, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>You and all the other encumbered liberals, stop whining and looking for a handout..
Go start your own corporation or business, hire some people you loser and contribute to yours and others pocket books and pay some taxes you idiot...
OWS 99Percenter always spewing mindless anti-American crap...
It's the culture..
Some people haven't inherited the family business and wealth. Where is the money supposed to come from to start a business? You are the anti-American. I've got news for you. People that are hungry and homeless are going to take what they need to survive.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1049660 Dec 30, 2013
LCNin wrote:
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as the topics flow away from President Obama the desperation seems to increase in the gop.
who cares what phil believes, there is the freedom of speech to be a bigot.
Saying something is a sin is bigotry
Opposing Obamacare is racist
Setting a 20 week limit on abortion is being misogynist

And on and on goes the ridiculous ideology of the Progressive

You make labels lose any meaning.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049662 Dec 30, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>sonicmoron always trying to turn un-newsworthy superlative bias and exaggerated chicken shit websites into chicken salad bullshit...
Whois: talkingpointsmemo.com
Opinionated politics: Commentary on political events from a politically left perspective, by Joshua Micah Marshall.
un-newsworthy superlative bias and exaggerated or hyperbolical expression of leftwing opinion or socialist perspective...
It's the culture...
sorry about Bush.
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1049663 Dec 30, 2013
Emeem wrote:
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Some people haven't inherited the family business and wealth. Where is the money supposed to come from to start a business? You are the anti-American. I've got news for you. People that are hungry and homeless are going to take what they need to survive.
You don't need wealth to start a business you idiot... It takes smarts youows dumbass...

It's the culture...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049664 Dec 30, 2013
Fox News Spent 2013 Worrying About "Wussification"

Conservatives live in constant fear of "wussification": That is the lesson one would learn from watching Fox News in 2013. Media Matters compiled a hilarious list of the top 10 times the word wussification—usually attached to the phrase of America—cropped up on Fox News this past year. The metaphorical testicles of America were lost to a myriad of causes, including the move to change the name of the Washington, D.C., NFL team and the push to end unpaid internships. Unmentioned as a symptom of wussification, interestingly enough, was the use of the term wussification in place of the grittier street alternative that starts with a p. Considering that Fox worried that suspending a cop for cursing at a bunch of children leads to wussification, you would think they would summon the testicular fortitude to use the word that they really mean.

Lest you think this is simply Fox News employees overcompensating for working within a stone's throw of so many Broadway musicals, rest assured that this nonstop conservative anxiety about keeping things manly is hardly limited to Fox. For their last great push of freaking out over nothing this year, the culture warriors all over the right-wing media threw a major fit because an ad for Obamacare online pictured a man wearing eyeglasses and pajamas. Real men sleep in cargo pants and forsake being able to read rather than admit to needing the assistant of an optometrist, which is a word that nearly rhymes with gynecologist, after all.

Indeed, the recent kerfuffle over the suspension of the star of Duck Dynasty for racist and homophobic remarks has revealed the extent to which conservative Americans must sacrifice comfort, safety, and dignity in order to fend off the forces of wussification. In covering the story, many liberal outlets revealed the ugly truth about the Robertson family at the center of the show, which is that, in their natural form, they appear to be a bunch of golf-playing polo-shirt fans whose facial hair preferences range from clean-shaven to the dreaded goatee. So great was the need of Duck Dynasty fans for a charade of manliness that the Robertsons had to debase themselves by growing out those massive crumb-catchers and clothing themselves, in front of the cameras at least, in head-to-toe camo.

Of course there is a paradox afoot, as nothing speaks less of a cool, masculine confidence than constantly worrying that every little corner of society is out to steal your manhood away. Except, perhaps, donning ridiculous costumes to ward off fears of emasculation. Not that our friends on the right will ever really grasp how silly all this looks to outsiders. After all, only wussies understand irony.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/12/...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1049665 Dec 30, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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Really Carol? how about HUD under your hero Ronald Reagan? Reagan failed to deal with the growing corruption scandal at the agency that resulted in the indictment and conviction of top Reagan administration officials for illegally targeting housing subsidies to politically connected developers. Pierce and others rigged the allocation of subsidies for housing projects to favor Reagan’s campaign contributors and GOP lobbyists, such as former Interior Secretary James Watt. Fortunately for Reagan, the “HUD Scandal” wasn’t uncovered until he’d left office.
James Watt, Reagan's Secretary of the Interior was indicted on 41 felony counts for using connections at the Department of Housing and Urban Development to help his private clients seek federal funds for housing projects in Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands. Watt conceded that he had received $500,000 from clients who were granted very favorable housing contracts after he had intervened on their behalf. Watt was eventually sentenced to five years in prison and 500 hours of community service.
Or how about this?
Michael Deaver, Reagan's Chief of Staff, received three years' probation and was fined one hundred thousand dollars after being convicted for lying to a congressional subcommittee and a federal grand jury about his lobbying activities after leaving the White House. Same as with Lyn Nofziger.
John Poindexter, Reagan's national security advisor, guilty of five criminal counts involving conspiracy to mislead Congress, obstructing congressional inquiries, lying to lawmakers, used "high national security" to mask deceit and wrong-doing.
Richard Secord pleaded guilty to a felony charge of lying to Congress over Iran-Contra. Appointed by William Casey to assist Oliver North.
. Alan D. Fiers was the Chief of the Central Intelligence Agency's Central American Task Force. Fiers pled guilty in 1991 to two counts of withholding information from congress about Oliver North's activities and the diversion of Iran arms sale money to aid the Contras. He was sentenced to one year of probation and 100 hours of community service. Alan Fiers received a blanket pardon for his crimes from President Bush.
And that's only a few. The Reagan administration almost made Nixon's look good.
See? There's the difference. Someone was held accountable in other presidencies when someone was guilty of wrongdoing or incompetency. In Republican presidencies, even just the suspicion of wrongdoing or incompetency.

No one has been held accountable in this administration for all kinds of proven wrongdoing and incompetency.

As for your claims about the poverty line not haven risen earlier....

WASHINGTON — The ranks of America's poor are on track to climb to levels unseen in nearly half a century...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/22/us-p...

In 2000, about 33.3 million people or 12.2 percent of the U.S. population had income below the poverty level. In 2012, the number of people in poverty increased to about 48.8 million people or 15.9 percent.

http://www.census.gov/prod/2013pubs/acsbr12-0...

Nationwide, the count of America's poor remains stuck at a record number: 46.2 million, or 15 percent of the population, due in part to lingering high unemployment following the recession. While poverty rates for blacks and Hispanics are nearly three times higher, by absolute numbers the predominant face of the poor is white.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/28/pove...

The total number of poor people in the United States declined by 1.8 million, from 35.5 million in 1983 to 33.7 million in 1984, the Consensus Bureau said. Poverty rates for blacks, for the elderly and for families headed by women all declined, the bureau said.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/08/28/us/us-pover...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1049667 Dec 30, 2013
No one in the history of civilization spent and taxed their way into prosperity. You either think money grows on trees like all Democrats do or you don't care if you run out of other people's money like European socialist democracies do if you lack common sense knowing you have to stop spending and cut unnecessary spending out of your budget when you don't have any more money.

Just to reiterate the obvious....
No Surprize

Largo, FL

#1049668 Dec 30, 2013
Emeem wrote:
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Some people haven't inherited the family business and wealth. Where is the money supposed to come from to start a business? You are the anti-American. I've got news for you. People that are hungry and homeless are going to take what they need to survive.
We are becoming a nation overrun by ryou food stamp nitwits as been stated...

Democrats started this drive for government dependent via Johnson's "war" on poverty you loser.

If you are still going to bed hungry it's the fault of your guardian or obama, not republicans, you moron....

It's the culture...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049669 Dec 30, 2013
tell it like it is wrote:
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...and...
People in the Soviet Gulags wept when Lenin died
so you're going to weep when Obama dies?
Bloody Mary

Lombard, IL

#1049670 Dec 30, 2013
And the poor people of Pompeii did not believe Mount Vesuvius was about to erupt or that their lives were in any danger.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049671 Dec 30, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
No one in the history of civilization spent and taxed their way into prosperity. You either think money grows on trees like all Democrats do or you don't care if you run out of other people's money like European socialist democracies do if you lack common sense knowing you have to stop spending and cut unnecessary spending out of your budget when you don't have any more money.
Just to reiterate the obvious....
cutting taxes doesn't achieve prosperity. just ask Bush.

though you can't ask him about cutting spending.

wow. i could be talking about Reagan.

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1049672 Dec 30, 2013
Abolish The Fed wrote:
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Were you just as critical of George Bush?
If so please give an example.
George Bush wasn't a radical left liberal with a past history of Marxist associations who thought fundamentally transforming this nation was his personal mission. George Bush also didn't demonize the opposition but tried to work with them.

Same with Bill Clinton.

Just Barack Obama.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1049673 Dec 30, 2013
Bloody Mary wrote:
And the poor people of Pompeii did not believe Mount Vesuvius was about to erupt or that their lives were in any danger.
heard the same 5 years ago.

don't worry, reality will creep in sooner or later.

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