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Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1017287 Nov 3, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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if their current doctor and/or preferred hospital is not included in the crummy exchange policy, they may tell you to fck off...
As their employer, that would be a consideration in my choice.

You idiots do know that cheaper options for my employees as always been out there. You morons act as though employers couldn't dump insurance altogether or use cheaper policies with less coverage all along.

Employers for years have been struggling with climbing health benefit costs. You didn't give a sh*t then. Your party did nothing.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1017288 Nov 3, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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The first step in control of medical costs should be approaching the question of why medical care and drugs cost less if paid for by insurance than if paid for without insurance.
Do you expect to pay the same for ground beef as McDonald's does?

Is called volume.

An insurance company has thousands of customers (paying customers). They go to a doctor or hospital & negotiate pricing if these providers are included in their network.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1017289 Nov 3, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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If you could read, you imbecile, you would note that the all-cash payment refers to the utilities and food...
Read it again moron. See the part at the end about Galt having NO INSURANCE?
If someone has NO INSURANCE then either that idiot pays cash or he is a freeloading public moocher that makes other taxpayers pay for his health care.

post#1016344
"Galt pays far more for utilities and food every year than for medical care, all paid in cash, with no insurance…."
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#1017290 Nov 3, 2013
"Pushing Forward" The Agenda For Complete Global Control -

CNN Caught Staging News Segments on Syria With Actors

http://intellihub.com/2013/08/29/cnn-correspo...


Anderson Cooper and CNN have been caught staging fake news about Syria to justify military intervention.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1017291 Nov 3, 2013
Waxman wrote:
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"online" is a term ignorant people like you use. That term dates back to three decades ago. We now call it the web, idiot stick.
DO you really know how ignorant you are?
Funny, companies keep wanting me to pay "Online". Banks kee pushong "Online baniong"

You are dumber than sh*t.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1017292 Nov 3, 2013
Here's what teabagger morons haven't figured out yet. Obama has THREE years to fix Obamacare. The only chance you nitwits had to shoot holes in it was to take control of the Senate. Because of the tantrum you threw shutting down the government and threatening to not pay our debts you have eliminated any chance at all of accomplishing that goal. If you had shut your stupid faces and let the Obamacare startup problems run their course you might have had a chance.
Thank God for Ted Cruz!

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1017293 Nov 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Here you go libtard. Now quit lying.
Here we go again:

John Galt wrote:
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no...
you can set up the program, but the employees must enroll themselves....

I said:

"Just like new employees must enroll in the health insurance offered by their employer as a benefit."

We were talking about employees who had chosen to get company coverage.

You are too f*cking stupid to keep up with the conversation.
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#1017294 Nov 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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Gallup 2011:
Maryland, Massachusetts, Vermont, D.C.- most Democratic states.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/146234/Number-Soli...
Considering Vermont is the first state to plow ahead with universal health care by 2017 despite the majority being against it and European countries backing away from it - it's safe to say Vermont is predominantly a progressive liberal state.
For one thing Carol the poll you refer to is two years old. Since then the Republicans approval ratings have cratered.
How do you know that the majority of Vermonters are against the state's proposed universal health plan? They been working on it since 2006 so why hasn't the GOP been able to make any inroads in the state? The fact is that the citizens of Vermont are fine with the plan. European countries are not backing away from their health policies liar. They actually like the fact that they can get healthcare that's not going to bankrupt them.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1017296 Nov 3, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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For one thing Carol the poll you refer to is two years old. Since then the Republicans approval ratings have cratered.
How do you know that the majority of Vermonters are against the state's proposed universal health plan? They been working on it since 2006 so why hasn't the GOP been able to make any inroads in the state? The fact is that the citizens of Vermont are fine with the plan. European countries are not backing away from their health policies liar. They actually like the fact that they can get healthcare that's not going to bankrupt them.
There is 626,000 of them with 15 hospitals. Vermont is the liberal of all liberal states. People who think they can get something for nothing are damn fools!!!

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1017297 Nov 3, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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You're full of crap as usual Carol. If the ACA was doomed to fail then the Republicans would simply let it and reap political capital for at least a decade. It's already helping people like someone on long term chemotherapy who doesn't have to worry about their treatment being cut off because of some arbitrary lifetime cap. Childhood cancer survivors can't be denied coverage as adults. Families with young adults in college or just starting out in life don't have to shell out for another policy. Seniors are getting a break on their medications under Medicare part D. People are getting rebate checks if their insurance provider hasn't used 80% of their premiums on providing medical expenses.
The question is why do you shill for people who couldn't be bothered to piss on you if you were on fire?
The partisan written and passed ACA should have been scraped with both sides coming together and starting over again, keeping the few good things that both sides agreed on, eliminating most of it and using common sense to keep government's dirty little fingers out of our freedom of choice and personal medical decisions.

Any law that creates more government bureaucracy intrusion and confusion is a bad law.

Any law that doesn't represent both sides is a joke.

Democrats are learning this the hard way.
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#1017299 Nov 3, 2013
Kenny wrote:
Hilary for President!
Hilary? Hilary Duff or Hilary Swank?

You can't be talking about that mega butt Clinton cow, because she spells her name Hillary, with two "L"s, or are you that stupid you can't even spell your candidate's name right.

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1017300 Nov 3, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
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Carol it was Ambassador Stevens who decided who would accompany him to Benghazi, not the President and when news of the attack reached Tripoli and Washington reinforcements were sent. That's all anyone could have done. Yes the President went to Las Vegas the following day. At that point there was nothing that he could do in the aftermath except let the FBI and the CIA do their jobs. It's not like he was out of touch, Air Force One has a powerful communications center that informs the President of what's going on anywhere in the world.
By the way Carol, what did Bush do when he received his PDB that indicated that there was to be an imminent attack on this country? He stayed on his faux ranch. There was more brush to cut. Don't start on priorities you damned hypocrite.
It was Ambassador Stevens who repeatedly requested more security in the days before the attack. Now he's dead.
dem

Chicago, IL

#1017301 Nov 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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It was Ambassador Stevens who repeatedly requested more security in the days before the attack. Now he's dead.
the very same stevens that volunteered for that position knowing it was a very volatile situation?
perhaps you should turn off fox news so you dont appear even dumber than you are

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1017302 Nov 3, 2013
Ray Donovan wrote:
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Apparently $70 Billion isn't enough. Arne wants even MORE...
Since Congress created the Department of Education under Jimmy Carter 30 years ago, American students have lost ground against other nations.
How bad is it? Last year, an international assessment showed that U.S. students ranked 14th in reading, 17th in science and 25th in math among 34 countries. This prompted U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan to say,“This is an absolute wake-up call for America.... We have to deal with the brutal truth. We have to get much more serious about investing in education.”
http://www.paducahsun.com/view/full_story_fre...
It's more important now that teachers don't do anything to make students or parents angry, lower the bar of expectations in excellence to keep the playing field level and learning optional, scrap discipline to avoid creating an optimal learning environment and consistent fairness in the classroom and give every child a trophy whether its deserved or not to avoid any incentive to try harder and to do better the next time.

The new progressive approach is more prevalent in many schools than most want to believe.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1017303 Nov 3, 2013
dem wrote:
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the very same stevens that volunteered for that position knowing it was a very volatile situation?
perhaps you should turn off fox news so you dont appear even dumber than you are
Brace yourself, FOX Sunday New is just ending. The right wing morons had their brains filled with more Benghazi conspirisies from Lindsey Graham who is worried about a teabagger challenge. It's going to get crazier as many Republicans still feel they have to take these lunatics seriously.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#1017304 Nov 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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It's more important now that teachers don't do anything to make students or parents angry, lower the bar of expectations in excellence to keep the playing field level and learning optional, scrap discipline to avoid creating an optimal learning environment and consistent fairness in the classroom and give every child a trophy whether its deserved or not to avoid any incentive to try harder and to do better the next time.
The new progressive approach is more prevalent in many schools than most want to believe.
What do you know about No Child Left Behind babe?

You're pitiful__it's no wonder you couldn't get along with your administrators, fellow teachers and students.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#1017305 Nov 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
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It was Ambassador Stevens who repeatedly requested more security in the days before the attack. Now he's dead.
Ambassador Stevens twice said no to military offers of more security, U.S. officials say

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/05/14/191235/...

too much FOX carol?
Patriot

Boulder, CO

#1017306 Nov 3, 2013
ENDLESS CONGRESSIONAL HEARINGS = NO ACCOUNTABILITY

11-03-2013

The impostor in the White House and his lackeys have been the target of endless hearings over the past few years. IRS, Fast and Furious, Navy Seals, Benghazi to name only a few.

Most of the investigations are still on-going more than a year later; Fast and Furious almost three years while the families wait for answers instead of more lies. While the hearings have given the American people evidence and testimony, to date not a single person has been held accountable for the death of a U.S. Border Patrol Agent (Fast & Furious), the death of so many Americans in the helicopter crash in Afghanistan, the murders of our U.S. Ambassador and three other very brave Americans in Benghazi or the IRS targeting conservative groups for political reasons.

Yet, despite all the revelations that's come to light as a result of endless hearings, no one at the top of the dung heap has been held accountable for any of the scandals.

Why? What good are all the investigations and hearings broadcast on television if no one is held accountable? The same thing happened over the many scandals involving the Marxist duo, Bill & Hill Clinton, Inc, not to mention the despicable cover up of the 1993 World Trade Center Tower bombing, TWA Flight 800 and OKC. Move on the George Bush, Jr., and the massive cover up over what really happened on September 11, 2001.

Hearings, hearings, investigations and more investigating. It has equaled ZERO accountability. The guilty not only walk free but are generously rewarded when they go into the private sector. Comrade Hillary usurped the office of Secretary of State. Not only did the ethically bankrupt U.S. Senate confirm her appointment knowing she was ineligible, and despite the fact the world became a much more violent one while she racked up more air miles than any SOS in history and is responsible for the murder of four Americans in Benghazi, she's now being handsomely rewarded to the tune of anywhere from $20,000 -$200,000 a speech...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Devvy/kidd612.ht...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1017307 Nov 3, 2013
dem wrote:
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the very same stevens that volunteered for that position knowing it was a very volatile situation?
perhaps you should turn off fox news so you dont appear even dumber than you are
At least learn something about the facts before posting a misleading opinion.

The State Department's former point man on security in Libya told the House Oversight Committee that he asked for additional security help for the Benghazi facility months before the attack, but was denied.

Various communications dating back a year asked for three to five diplomatic security agents. But Eric Nordstrom, the one-time regional security officer, said he verbally asked for 12 agents.

The request for 12 agents was rebuffed by the regional director of the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs.

"For me and my staff, it was abundantly clear that we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident," Nordstrom said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/12/politics/fact-c...

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1017308 Nov 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> There is 626,000 of them with 15 hospitals. Vermont is the liberal of all liberal states. People who think they can get something for nothing are damn fools!!!
They would pay for it through taxation.

The fact s that if we went to a single payor system, it would be less money that what we spend now.

You fucknuts keep wanting to hand corporations money. What if they had no health insurance benefit costs?

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