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lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1005967 Oct 17, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
And that too. How can liberals think the young paying more so the elderly and the poor can get free health care is fair?
There's nothing fair or compassionate about that.
If the young voluntarily offered to pay more, that's one thing. But the government forcing them to pay more so the liberals can sleep better at night is nothing more than stealing disguised as compassion.
The government is not our collective conscience - the main issue that's creating a divide in this country.
This has got to be collective blockheadism.

Do any of you comprehend the concept of insurance at all?

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#1005968 Oct 17, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>you do know that O'bamacare is not going to stop bankruptcies... people who buy insurance on the new exchange will face out of pocket limits they may not able to afford. For a family plan the annual out of pocket limit will be over $12,000. This is a financial burden many families simply can’t afford, especially while dealing with all the other expenses normally faced when taking care of a very sick family member.
In fact, data from Massachusetts which adopted a very similar state based reform plan indicates the ACA will only modestly reduce this problem. From research on Massachusetts right before and after implementation.
In 2009, illness or medical bills contributed to 52.9% of bankruptcies in Massachusetts. In contrast, in early 2007, medical bankruptcies accounted for 59.3% of personal bankruptcies in the state (P.44 for comparison with 2009 proportion) and 62.1% nationally (P.02). Because the total number of personal bankruptcy filings in Massachusetts increased by 51% between fiscal years 2007 and 2009, the absolute number of medical bankruptcies in the state actually increased by more than one third during that period, from 7504 to 10,093.[...]
http://www.pnhp.org/sites/default/files/docs/...
Even before the changes in health care laws, most medical bankruptcies in Massachusetts, as in other states, affected middle-class families with health insurance. High premium costs and gaps in coverage— copayments, deductibles, and uncovered services— often left insured families liable for substantial out-of-pocket costs. None of that changed. As a matter of fact-most people will experience higher out-of-pocket costs they can't afford.
From your source: "one quarter of bankrupt families had experienced a recent lapse in coverage". Problem solved.

Note: The other reason medical expenses represent a large percentage of bankruptcies is because loss of income due to an illness is considered a medical expense. That has nothing to do with the cost of medical care. Health insurance doesn't make catastrophic illnesses go away. DUH!
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#1005969 Oct 17, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
So says the idiot with a 100 names, and all are way beyond stupid..Eat your crow in silence LOSER.LMAO
Once again a treasonous traitor called ghost who makes a stupid claim, then can't back it up or prove it! Talk about looking stupid, ignorant and working hard to prove idiot you loser, Yeah Gilligan... that's ghost

It's the culture...
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1005970 Oct 17, 2013
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
<quoted text>
Son?
What are you Yeah's twin, Wilhelm from Germany? Maybe it's just you old needy relics from retardland talk the same.
Everything outside of your padded room is strange to you.
What's the matter son? Your title too high for your intelligence level?

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1005971 Oct 17, 2013

October 17, 2013 7:13 AM

Deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexico police linked to "grenade-walking" scandal
By
Sharyl Attkisson
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(CBS News) CBS News has learned of a shocking link between a deadly drug cartel shootout with Mexican police last week and a controversial case in the U.S. The link is one of the grenades used in the violent fight, which killed three policemen and four cartel members and was captured on video by residents in the area.

According to a Justice Department "Significant Incident Report" filed Tuesday and obtained by CBS News, evidence connects one of the grenades to Jean Baptiste Kingery, an alleged firearms trafficker U.S. officials allowed to operate for years without arresting despite significant evidence that he was moving massive amounts of grenade parts and ammunition to Mexico's ruthless drug cartels.

The gun battle took place last week in Guadalajara. Authorities say five members of the Jalisco New Generation Cartel used at least nine firearms and ten hand grenades against Mexican police. If one of the grenades was supplied with the help of Kingery, as believed, it adds to the toll of lives taken with weapons trafficked by suspects U.S. officials watched but did not stop.

The Kingery case was overseen by the same Arizona U.S. Attorney and ATF office that let suspects traffic thousands of weapons to Mexican drug cartels in the operation dubbed Fast and Furious. The strategy was to try to get to the cartel kingpins, but it was halted after CBS News reported that Fast and Furious weapons were used by cartel thugs in the murder of Border Patrol agent Brian Terry on December 15, 2010. Weapons trafficked by other ATF suspects under surveillance were used two months later in the cartel murder of Immigration and Customs Agent Jaime Zapata in Mexico on February 15, 2011.

On Wednesday, ATF told CBS News it has "no information" about the Kingery connection to last week's gun battle in Mexico.

As CBS News previously reported, documents show ATF began watching Kingery in "2004 related to AK47 purchases" he was believed to be trafficking to Mexico.

In 2009, ATF also learned Kingery was dealing in grenades; weapons of choice for Mexico's killer cartels. Documents show they developed a secret plan to let him smuggle parts to Mexico in early 2010 and follow him to his factory. Some ATF agents vehemently objected, worried that Kingery would disappear once he crossed the border into Mexico. That's exactly what happened.

Kingery resurfaced several months later in 2010, trying to smuggle a stash of grenade bodies and ammunition into Mexico, but was again let go when prosecutors allegedly said they couldn't build a good case. In 2011, Mexican authorities finally raided Kingery's factory and arrested him -- they say he confessed to teaching cartel members how to build grenades and convert semi-automatic weapons to automatic. The Justice Department has not provided an update on whether it's trying to extradite Kingery to the U.S., and an ATF spokesman said on Wednesday that he doesn't know the status of his case.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1005972 Oct 17, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>I wish someone had an answer to your addiction to selling out America's war heroes, fallen soldiers and America's military and war heroeos you traitor... Comrade obama and an awol ghost hate on the military and have NO respect or honor for America's war memorials and fallen soldiers...
A sellout ghost, a treasonous traitor, supporting Comrade obama closing parks, war memorials and monuments to the military and ghost pissing on the dead...
It's the culture...
Easy son. Get rid of the jackboot reich wing obstructionists in the House and let the adults do what needs to be done.
Buroc Millhouse Obama

Newington, CT

#1005973 Oct 17, 2013
Alaska population: 731,449

# signed up of the Unaffordable Health Care Act AKA ObozoQueer: 2
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#1005974 Oct 17, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>A sign of the times..
ghost is a 77 year old incontinent nursing home traitor and Hawaii's favorite idiot Yeah... known as Gilligan
It's the culture...
repeat please

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005975 Oct 17, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
They did, GOP took it in the shorts. Cue the Constitution and Libertarian Parties, the GOP is dead. Booker won, McAuliffe holds a steady 9 point lead over Cuccinelli, the only bright news is Christy's solid lead but y'all don't think he's a Republican anymore so that explains that.
Have you looked at the Constitution Party's platform yet? I guarantee you'll like it better than what you see from the GOP now.
Oh wait, I forgot how much you like a big-spending, big government.
Nevermind, keep voting GOP until you're the last one.
See? That's where you're just not getting it. You probably clap in between classical pieces when they really aren't over yet too.

Republicans can say they tried to protect us from Obamacare.

Democrats are going to have to defend it.

So when you're thinking it's time to clap, you should be waiting for the next part.

In the words of Yogi Berra: "It ain't over til it's over."

Let's see if Democrats can play the next part.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1005976 Oct 17, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Rush doesn't come on till noon ET.
Another dittohead who plans his day on listening to the big fat blowhard junkie!!!
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#1005977 Oct 17, 2013
Grey Ghost wrote:
<quoted text>
Draft dodger bagger loser say what...I busted your lying azz long ago when you tried to lie your way into serving...And you never quit crying...LOSER LMAO. You idiots on the right only have a few more days before i'm off to my home in the mountains for the winter next Monday..Jealousy and envy looks good on you perennial LOSERS. Your misery brings great happiness to 80% of real AMERICANS. So cry wittle baby and wet your depends. LMAO still.Suffer bitch.
AND... Throwing more commonsense at you traitor is like more throwing crack at an addict you moron.

America's sellout Grey Ghost, a traitor, always coming back for more "BLAMING" others for his addiction to idiot, selling out America's war heroes, the military and those that actually served...

It's the culture...

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005978 Oct 17, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
This has got to be collective blockheadism.
Do any of you comprehend the concept of insurance at all?
Apparently, a lot more than you do.

The IRS managing and overseeing our health care is not their job for one thing.

Providing affordable insurance and lowering the costs should have been the goal. It doesn't take the government or the IRS to achieve that goal. It just takes some common sense.

But you like being controlled so you don't have any.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1005979 Oct 17, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
You know this president never met with Republicans once during the entire first two years of his presidency except one staged conference before passing the ACA?
Or that he never met with any leaders of the Republican Party for 18 consecutive months into his presidency?
He and the Democrats pretended they had a one-party system in 2009 and 2010.
So when Republicans won back the House in 2010, it upset the apple cart so demonizing them was the next best way to get rid of them.
Are you NOT surprised Republicans would be a little tee'ed off and put up a fight to be a part of the political process?
And are you NOT surprised they didn't want to kiss the king's ring when he demanded they give him everything he wanted now?
Obama could not be more disconnected from the political process if he were King Tut.
LIAR!
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#1005980 Oct 17, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
See? That's where you're just not getting it. You probably clap in between classical pieces when they really aren't over yet too.
Republicans can say they tried to protect us from Obamacare.
Democrats are going to have to defend it.
So when you're thinking it's time to clap, you should be waiting for the next part.
In the words of Yogi Berra: "It ain't over til it's over."
Let's see if Democrats can play the next part.
You're party is over; you're just too dense to get it.
SHADOW

Boerne, TX

#1005981 Oct 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>What's the matter son? Your title too high for your intelligence level?
What's up with the little squat boy?
Eaten any good dog lately?
Are you still hiding in New Mexico?
Buroc Millhouse Obama

Newington, CT

#1005982 Oct 17, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
LIAR!
DOLT!
SHADOW

Boerne, TX

#1005983 Oct 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>repeat please
Keep up squats and you won't have to have posters constantly "repeat" things for you.
Must be the asian education and steady diet of dog.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1005984 Oct 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Well that's just dumb, you can only base a majority of votes on the people who actually voted.
They voted Homer. They voted to stay home.

" If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"

Rush

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1005985 Oct 17, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>That's a lie! Did you make that up yourself or read it at a right wing puke blog.
Well, actually, no it isn't.

Obama had a Democratic-controlled Congress during his first two years. Why in the world would he think Republicans were even necessary to pass Obamacare - his personal vision to fundamentally transform this country?

Obama and his corrupt Chicagoans did not want to let a good crisis go to waste. Republicans would have forced them to focus on jobs and the economy instead.

Doesn't take a genius such as yourself to figure this one out.

He had no use for Republicans. When they became a thorn in his side in 2010, he systematically went about trying to destroy them.

It's elementary, my dear Watson.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#1005986 Oct 17, 2013
Laney F wrote:
<quoted text>Until you're the last one and New York resembles Detroit and the US resembles a cross between Greece, Somalia, Mexico City and the poorest district in the Hunger Games.
Anti-gun New Yorkers are about to shoot themselves in the foot by electing Bill de Blasio. This liberal mayor wanna-be, for example, as liberals do--plans to hamstring cops and spring criminals. For 30 years, New York City tried the Democrats' approach to crime. The result was an explosion of murders, rapes, permanent disfigurements, robberies, car thefts and burglaries.
Then Rudy Giuliani came in and saved the city. The dramatic decrease in crime effected by Giuliani's crime policies made commerce, tourism -- life!-- possible again in New York.
But liberals have been biding their time, waiting for people to forget, itching to get their hands on the levers of power so they can start releasing criminals again.(Or as Democrats refer to them, "our base.")
Liberals seem to believe our founding fathers sought to create a country where the pushiest always win.(That's why they're the party of trial lawyers.) They want the nation's policies to be determined by a never-ending co-op board meeting dominated by the most obnoxious shareholders.
Yes and since the GOP has shown themselves just as enamored of big-spending, big government NOW is the time for the Libertarian Party and the Constitution Party to pull people away from the dysfunctional GOP and caucus against the Ds on fundamental issues like spending and entitlements. The Republicans have ruined their brand and its gonna be a long time before they'll hold anything at the national level other than the House and even that's looking a little shaky after their most recent circular firing squad.

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