Barack Obama, our next President

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NJ raider 1

Washington, DC

#1003892 Oct 15, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
Most people have heard the name Machiavelli. Today, almost nobody knows why you heard that name a long time ago, and haven't heard it even whispered in recent memory. Few people are aware Machiavelli has a very negative connotation. Machiavelli wrote an instructional manual on how to administer control of landed wealth, which included peasants bound to the land. He described what he called the fir...st princedom and inherited princedoms. Part of the first princedom is a description of establishing totalitarian government over a newly acquired peasantry and the land they belonged to. This requires adjudication in strict adherence to the agenda of the prince, who owns the land and peasants. A governor of issues is appointed for this purpose, and they are the final word on any issue.
Now, go read the text of the ObamaKare law and pay particular attention to where the text reads "The Secretary will determine...." everything. All issues are resolved when "The Secretary will determine" what is done.
The execution of ObamaKare is right out of Machiavelli's The Prince. The principle content of ObamaKare could have been written by Karl Marx.
And this actually passed through the US Congress and was signed into law.
Sorry DB, I'm quite sure we've all heard of Machiavelli before. The philosopher and war strategist is well know for writing as a strategy of war " the faking of one's death to fool their enemies. Hasn't anything to do with the ACA , not does the ACA have anything to do with a totalitarian gov't. Since you act like you don't know, allow me to school you. In every facet of life, everyone answers to someone! A child answers to their parents, teachers, principals, coaches, aunts, uncles etc... Adults also answer to someone, everybody does. The ACA is a law. Laws have to be enforced &, there had to be someone to whom everyone answers to, to make sure folks are said laws are enforced. What does that have to do with the writing &, teachings of an old Italian philosopher merely speaking his mind? The rapper 2PAC spoke about &, renamed himself MakavellI so allotof people know who he is but, his ideology has nothing to do with the ACA!
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#1003893 Oct 15, 2013
Make 'em learn what a REAL B-U-D-G-E-T is-- Congressional reps with some actual functioning BRAIN matter anyway!!

CAP, CURB (the entitlementalcase, fweeriding rolls) B-U-D-G-E-T, Balance, DELAY the MESS of the UNSECURED, Not ready for prime time roll out of UNVERIFIABLE nothing but MORE mounds of red tape beaurocracy that does NOT belong in the realms of the public www aka the america communist act-and Live within the NATIONs MEANS again!

The Economy and REALITY DEMANDS it!!

T.E.A.

Voters FOR working class, struggling America-NOT against it!!!!!!!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1003894 Oct 15, 2013
Suckers!!!! You bought a pig in a poke twice! The destruction of America has begun!

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1003895 Oct 15, 2013
When Barbara Retkowski went to a Cape Coral, Florida, health clinic in August to treat a blood condition, she figured the center would bill her insurance company. Instead, it demanded payment upfront.

Earlier in the year, another clinic insisted she pay her entire remaining insurance deductible for the year -- more than $1,000 -- before the doctor would even see her.
“I was surprised and frustrated,” Retkowski, a 59-year-old retiree, said in an interview.“I had to pull money out of my savings.”
The practice of upfront payment for non-emergency care has been spreading in the U.S. as deductibles rise. Now, the advent of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is likely to accelerate that trend.
Many of the plans offered through the law’s insurance exchanges have low initial premiums to attract customers, while carrying significant deductibles and other out-of-pocket cost sharing. The second-lowest tier of Obamacare plans in California, for example, carries a $2,000 annual deductible.
Hospitals say they need to charge patients prior to treatment because Americans are increasingly on the hook for more of their own medical costs. And once care is provided, it’s often difficult for hospitals to collect.
“It used to be taboo to look like you were looking for money at a time when you were supposed to be focused on patient care,” David Williams, president of Boston-based consulting firm Health Business Group, said.“It’s not taboo anymore.”
High Deductibles
Employers are following suit as they push workers to share more financial responsibility for health care. The percentage of insured workers with a deductible of $1,000 or more for single coverage jumped to 34 percent in 2012 from 12 percent in 2007, according to a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust.
Overall, the number of people with high deductible plans rose to 15.5 million in 2013 from 1 million in 2005, according to America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry’s lobbying group in Washington. The Internal Revenue Service largely defines high deductible health plans as those with an annual deductible of $1,250 or more for individual coverage.
“We expect the trend toward high deductibles to continue,” said Ceci Connolly, managing director of PriceWaterhouseCoopers’ Health Research Institute in Washington.“There’s nothing in the law that curbs high deductibles and we very much expect more and more employers to move to high-deductible plans.”

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1003896 Oct 15, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
Looks like the Democrats' tantrum is lessening. I haven't heard any Democrat president threaten to ruin the country in a couple of days.
You know, I think the House should just shut the entire govenment down until there is a budget passed and signed. There hasn't even been a budget since Obama took office, and there isn't any budget being discussed now.
How about we look at the real world and come up with a plan to deal with all the debt the Democrats are stacking up.
(That should get some stupid Democrat to drop out of school and hit this lure.)
It's at a crisis point. Doesn't matter who raised the debt ceiling in the past, how many times they raised it or even who or what was responsible for the deficit climbing to $17 trillion.

It's long overdue for both sides to address it once and for all and come up with a budget that's long-term and within our means.

Common sense Economics 101.

But as long as there's Obamacare - the pending economic disaster that's a thorn in everyone's side and where it all began - we're back to square one and going nowhere fast to try and decrease the deficit anytime soon.

Wish I could say if I didn't know better, that seems to be the plan. But it actually is the plan.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003897 Oct 15, 2013
martinezjosei wrote:
<quoted text>
"There hasn't even been a budget since Obama took office"
REALLY?
You better tell Sonicfilter! He claims Democrats did and Republicans had not!
Did he got it backwards?
Or will he just conveniently ignore and move on as he always do?
He reminds me of some characters in some comedy movies. He does something stupid that gets him covered in mud, then proceeds as if nothing happened.

The Democrats are doing nothing more than using buzzwords in their propaganda to mislead everyone again. They know there hasn't been a budget since Obama took office, and they know there isn't a budget being discussed today. Their intent is for enough Democrats to lie so the impression the population has is there is actually a budget being discussed, when the fact is the mountain of garbage is just being made higher for the time when it either collapses on us, or for whomever replaces this clown act has to deal with it.
No doubt there will be a constant stream of lies from the Democrats and so-called "mainstream" so-called "news" about how it's the subsequent administration's fault.

Like Saul Alinsky commanded, you have to first create the problem to propose a solution.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003898 Oct 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
It Keeps Getting Worse for the Republicans
No matter the age group, income group, or region, the public disapproves of Republicans’ performance by at least two to one margins. The failure of the GOP’s shutdown strategy was guaranteed before it started, but I don’t think anyone fully appreciated how strongly the strategy would be repudiated by the public.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...
liberal propaganda indeed. and don't even get me started about what the editor of the Daily Caller News Foundation and senior editor at The American Spectator has to say.
<spam>
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1003899 Oct 15, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
<unadulterated spam>
(phat phingers)
Hey fleabag, you should never be allowed to even use a word with [adult] in it!!!

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1003900 Oct 15, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
Some my kids were shocked at the total LACK of morals, let alone any honor- exhibited by the fweeriding entitlementalcase parasite examples of blatant thievery on that one.
ANYONE who purposely OVERSPENT on their monthly allotments in THAT disgusting display, should be PENALIZED until it's ALL paid back.
DISGUSTING.
government subsidized people will clear the shelves and engage in mass theft if they believe they can do so with a minimal risk of getting caught. This is no longer debatable. Who would have thought they would be putting TV's on their link cards. They really pushed the envelope. The government should take every single program away from their thieves, on the basis of committing fraud and theft from the taxpayer. Let them eat the card and nothing else.

Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1003901 Oct 15, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
It's at a crisis point. Doesn't matter who raised the debt ceiling in the past, how many times they raised it or even who or what was responsible for the deficit climbing to $17 trillion.
It's long overdue for both sides to address it once and for all and come up with a budget that's long-term and within our means.
Common sense Economics 101.
But as long as there's Obamacare - the pending economic disaster that's a thorn in everyone's side and where it all began - we're back to square one and going nowhere fast to try and decrease the deficit anytime soon.
Wish I could say if I didn't know better, that seems to be the plan. But it actually is the plan.
Yep the bagger fanatics are are desperate to stop the Affordable care act because they know it will doom them and once again as has happened in the past show them up for the greedy lying cretins that they are. Carol would be exhibit A.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1003902 Oct 15, 2013
Grampy wrote:
<quoted text>
Leading with: "I'm counting on", is wishful thinking, not a prediction.
ok, i give. i've been wishing Obama would grow some balls for 5 years now: so i can sympathize.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003903 Oct 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
McDonnell said the U.S. Senate hasn’t passed a budget in four and a half years. His information is out of date. The Senate passed a budget in March. A group of Republican senators has blocked efforts to begin budget negotiations with the House.
What a difference a year makes for this claim. McDonnell’s statement is False.
http://www.politifact.com/virginia/statements...
and who controls the Senate?
Tell us about that "budget".
What was the total proposed government expenditure for FY 2014?
Give us some specifics about proposed expenditures for each department of government. This should be easy. Each Department in government has a member of the Cabinet as its head.
Underneath each Department are the agencies with specific proposed expenditures in that "budget".
Give us the proposed expenditures for the Departments and Agencies. You don't need to get more specific than that. If you can provide that, then you have provided proof that an actual budget was passed by the Senate.
If not, you are doing your usual dupe impression and mindlessly regurgitating the Democrat propaganda calling appropriations and continuing resolutions a "budget".

It's put up or shut up time, dupe.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1003904 Oct 15, 2013
TheIndependentMajority wrote:
<quoted text>
There's YER SIGN lol.
shut-up! i don't care if you have a valid point.

idiot indeed.

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#1003905 Oct 15, 2013
forks_make_us_fat wrote:
Random posters...
on where the middle class can live and Going to Walmart!
"$66,000.00 in Boston is lower middle class. There is no way in hell with the high taxes there, higher cost of living etc., that you are going to be able to afford a 322,000.00 house even if it's only a 1200 sq. ft. cracker box! The property taxes alone will kill you. With Obama there will only be three classes. The rich, the miserable and the really miserable. Thank you liberals. You screwed your kids big time. They will just remain living with you waiting for you to die so they can inherit the house. Now, lets all go to Walmart and steal some groceries."
02144pomroy
The crash in the EBT system should be a deafening wake up call...if depending on the government is still what anyone thinks is the solution.

First, the website to sign up for the exchanges crashes. Now this.

But liberals apparently still believe in fairies and little government elves who magically come to the rescue and save us all from ourselves. Or something.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#1003906 Oct 15, 2013
The American Indian leader spearheading the campaign to change the name of the Washington Redskins is not a legitimate member of the tribe he leads, according to a New York State Assemblywoman, but rather an Obama crony who is raking in casino money and paying back only small stipends to his tribe members.
Oneida Nation Representative Ray Halbritter, who is also the CEO of Oneida Nation Enterprises, is not recognized in his position by the Grand Council of Chiefs governing the Six Nations Iroquois Confederacy. Halbritter is not a legitimate member of the Oneida tribe.
“He is not even technically an Oneida. There is not a drop of Oneida in him.
*Another fake something--just like O'bama.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#1003907 Oct 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
Huffpost poll - 10/5
CNN/ORC - 10/7
PEW - 9/30
new poll....
Poll: Republicans' Handling Of Shutdown Gets Low Marks From 3 Out Of 4 Americans
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/14/repu...
cite that one next time. or whatever new one will come out today that won't get mentioned on the FOX site.
PEW POLL

"The national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Oct. 3-6 among 1,000 adults, finds 44% say Republican leaders should give ground on their demand that any budget deal include cuts or delays to the 2010 health care law. Nearly as many (42%) say it is Obama who should give ground, by agreeing to changes in the health care law."

http://www.people-press.org/2013/10/07/partis...

Margin of error difference.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1003908 Oct 15, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
When Barbara Retkowski went to a Cape Coral, Florida, health clinic in August to treat a blood condition, she figured the center would bill her insurance company. Instead, it demanded payment upfront.
Earlier in the year, another clinic insisted she pay her entire remaining insurance deductible for the year -- more than $1,000 -- before the doctor would even see her.
“I was surprised and frustrated,” Retkowski, a 59-year-old retiree, said in an interview.“I had to pull money out of my savings.”
The practice of upfront payment for non-emergency care has been spreading in the U.S. as deductibles rise. Now, the advent of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is likely to accelerate that trend.
Many of the plans offered through the law’s insurance exchanges have low initial premiums to attract customers, while carrying significant deductibles and other out-of-pocket cost sharing. The second-lowest tier of Obamacare plans in California, for example, carries a $2,000 annual deductible.
Hospitals say they need to charge patients prior to treatment because Americans are increasingly on the hook for more of their own medical costs. And once care is provided, it’s often difficult for hospitals to collect.
“It used to be taboo to look like you were looking for money at a time when you were supposed to be focused on patient care,” David Williams, president of Boston-based consulting firm Health Business Group, said.“It’s not taboo anymore.”
High Deductibles
Employers are following suit as they push workers to share more financial responsibility for health care. The percentage of insured workers with a deductible of $1,000 or more for single coverage jumped to 34 percent in 2012 from 12 percent in 2007, according to a study by the Kaiser Family Foundation and the Health Research and Educational Trust.
Overall, the number of people with high deductible plans rose to 15.5 million in 2013 from 1 million in 2005, according to America’s Health Insurance Plans, the industry’s lobbying group in Washington. The Internal Revenue Service largely defines high deductible health plans as those with an annual deductible of $1,250 or more for individual coverage.
“We expect the trend toward high deductibles to continue,” said Ceci Connolly, managing director of PriceWaterhouseCoopers’ Health Research Institute in Washington.“There’s nothing in the law that curbs high deductibles and we very much expect more and more employers to move to high-deductible plans.”
In a way I kind of like it. Making people pay for their doctor visit should have been done in the first place. Free market strikes again. The deductible should be higher and no co-pays and the doctor visits should be cash only.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#1003910 Oct 15, 2013
LOL

The “Pragmatic” Politics of Subtraction

David Frum wants the GOP to become a rump party:

Right now, tea party extremism contaminates the whole Republican brand. It’s a very interesting question whether a tea party bolt from the GOP might not just liberate the party to slide back to the political center — and liberate Republicans from identification with the Sarah Palins and the Ted Cruzes who have done so much harm to their hopes over the past three election cycles.

It is doubtful that such a mass exodus would take place, but it’s bizarre to think that this would help Republican electoral prospects. The remaining rump GOP would be completely “liberated” from the burden of winning. The current Republican coalition is not quite large enough to win presidential elections on a regular basis, but slicing off a fifth or a third of that coalition would ensure that it never wins one again. Even if it lost just 10% of its current level of support, it would be doomed to near-permanent minority status. It’s true that Republicans nominated some weak candidates in 2010 and 2012 and lost races that could have been won, but the harm done to the Republican “brand” predated those elections by many years and had nothing to do with the Palins and Cruzes. Republicans in 2008 were doomed by the Iraq war, the financial crisis, the extraordinary unpopularity of Bush, and a bad nominee of such poor judgment that he thought Palin was an acceptable running mate. For all the mistakes that Tea Partiers have made in the last few years, they weren’t the ones that drove the party into the ditch. Indeed, much of the party’s current toxicity with the public is the legacy of the last era of united Republican government. The Bush era was the political disaster from which Republicans have been recovering. Cruz isn’t helping to get the party out of the deep hole where the Bush administration put it, but driving his supporters out of the party would be even more politically self-destructive than the tactics that Cruz has been employing this year.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/lariso...

a rump party? lmao
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1003911 Oct 15, 2013
flack wrote:
Suckers!!!! You bought a pig in a poke twice! The destruction of America has begun!
While phony fleabaggers like you are excited. Eight years of the most destructive leadership in our history and only now do we have all the morons that cheered them on are all fiscal geniuses. Of course in your case the sky has been falling since birth.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003912 Oct 15, 2013
NJ raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text>Sorry DB, I'm quite sure we've all heard of Machiavelli before. The philosopher and war strategist is well know for writing as a strategy of war " the faking of one's death to fool their enemies. Hasn't anything to do with the ACA , not does the ACA have anything to do with a totalitarian gov't. Since you act like you don't know, allow me to school you. In every facet of life, everyone answers to someone! A child answers to their parents, teachers, principals, coaches, aunts, uncles etc... Adults also answer to someone, everybody does. The ACA is a law. Laws have to be enforced &, there had to be someone to whom everyone answers to, to make sure folks are said laws are enforced. What does that have to do with the writing &, teachings of an old Italian philosopher merely speaking his mind? The rapper 2PAC spoke about &, renamed himself MakavellI so allotof people know who he is but, his ideology has nothing to do with the ACA!
You seem to avoid referencing his most notable work, "The Prince", which is a manual on how to construct and/or maintain a totalitarian governmental system over landed wealth and the peasants that belong to that land.

So, why is it you ran away from the post and didn't comment on the commonality of ObamaKare and Machiavelli's organizational manual for the construction of totalitarian governments ruling over serfs bound to the land?

Answer the post, dupe. I'll repost for you to assist your effort.

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