Obama states there will be NO negotiations going up against all logic and reason as debt ceilings and budgets have always been negotiated.<quoted text>
i think this time around the republicans will get something, but so will the democrats.
unlike the last how many times.
The Dems lied to their followers by claiming anything else would happen other than negotiating a deal.
No big Rep fracture that navel gazers predicted which would allow Obama's no negotiation work. It lacked any reasonability that such would happen as both moderates and cons oppose unlimited government spending in both parties.