Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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USAsince1680 wrote:
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I could provide text to debunk everyone of your stupid claims..read the bill and you will recognize yourself as the "dumbass".
So, what prevented you from providing that text? could it be you haven't got a clue what's in that law and you're just mindlessly regurgitating the party line propaganda you were instructed to regurgitate?

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<quoted text> Neither program have not added to the debt.
You are friggin' out your mind!!!

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"We need more time!!!!!!!"

"we need more time"

Congress evidently sofa king stupid it does not know that the fiscal year ends September 30th & the new fiscal year starts October first.

No shit.

It happens every year.

Defund Congress.

Pass a law that starts ten weeks prior to the start of the new fiscal year & deducts 10% of their pay & benefits per week until a deal is reached.

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<quoted text> You are friggin' out your mind!!!
Show me where either Medicare or social security have added to the debt.

In 2010 the spending was more than revenues (thanks to the recession) but SS has build up surpluses & they covered that deficit.

Don't insult us by bringing up liabilities because you obviously have no clue that that means.

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Oct 14, 2013
 
Prediction for this weeks teabagger cave:

Can kicked down the road as teabaggers cave to status quo!
Teabaggers beat their chests as Obama beats their asses.
Obamacare rolls on.
Obama wins again!

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Page 272/section 1145:
‘‘(18) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT FOR CANCER HOSPITALS.—‘‘(A) STUDY.—The Secretary shall conduct a study to determine if, under the system under this subsection, costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) with respect to ambulatory payment classification groups exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection (as determined appropriate by the Secretary).
‘‘(B) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT.—Insofar as the Secretary determines under subparagraph (A) that costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection, the Secretary shall provide for an appropriate adjustment under paragraph (2)(E) to reflect those higher costs effective for services furnished on or after January 1, 2011.’’.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200i...
Yep, Dumb and Dumber
Ignorant, and more ignorant.
There I wuz, sitting on the lake wondering what lure I'm going to use next. I choose the "provide the text" top water obnoxious clown-colored lure with more hooks than lure, and look what I caught. One of the stupidest fish in the lake.

Obviously, you are ignorant of the most significant descriptions of governmental philosophy ever written in the history of civilization.
You don't even recognize that the text you provided could have been from one of Machiavelli's letters that comprise "The Prince".

"The Secretary shall determine...."
Do you even realize what this law means when it gives arbitrary and subjective authority to some person who occupies some position in government?

What you provided is proof there is no law to be enforced. Everything you provided proves ObamaKare intends for subjective enforcement. There is no criteria in the text you provided for the people to read and understand what the law is that they must comply with.
What is written in the law is, the Secretary decides who gets health care, and who doesn't. The Secretary decides what hospitals get paid, and which ones do not.

The ObamaKare law is nothing more than another Democrat Marxist program to give what one individual works for to someone who won't work for it.
The ObamaKare law couldn't have been more Marxist if Karl Marx would have written it himself, and it couldn't be more Machiavellian if Machiavelli had to approve what Karl Marx wrote.

"The Secretary will determine...."
The Secretary will not be reviewing and approving/denying payment. There will be a huge bureaucracy doing that, under the orders and guidance of the Secretary... like the IRS Secretary ordering the opponents of the Democrats be targeted.
Since that same person will be the "Secretary" adjudicating ObamaKare, it's obvious those who oppose the Democrats will be dying on the street without health care.

ObamaKare is a Marxist program with Machiavellian execution.
It's that plain and simple, and obviously medieval.

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Show me where either Medicare or social security have added to the debt.
In 2010 the spending was more than revenues (thanks to the recession) but SS has build up surpluses & they covered that deficit.
Don't insult us by bringing up liabilities because you obviously have no clue that that means.
... idiots.
The recession the Democrats' CRA program caused when it collapsed the economy after two years oversight by Democrats Dodd and Frank, from whom we heard a constant stream of lies right up to the collapse....

Congress adds to the debt by borrowing money. Appropriations add to the deficit, which is covered by Congress borrowing money, thus increasing the debt.
The money paid to Social Security is put into the general revenue funds, and Social Security is paid out of the general appropriations funds. You'd know this if you knew anything at all about what comes out of your mouth.

I really wish you knew how our government works, dumbass.

But, since you mentioned it, let's fix Social Security right here and now.
IF YOU DIDN'T PAY INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
That will fix Social Security overnight.

Now that we've fixed Social Security, what other problem do you have?
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If he had acted on it immediately, there wouldn't have been the need for the Fisher House to intervene after it was headline news for two days.
But we never know when the president knows anything. And what he should do now is fire Hagel immediately.
But he never fires anyone or holds anyone accountable for anything either. Everyone keeps going about their business. And the liberal media just keeps their mouths shut. Nice arrangement.
Why would the President fire Chuck Hagel stupid? He couldn't do anything until the President signed a bill authorizing the payments which in turn he couldn't do until Congress sent it to him.
It shouldn't have happened in the first place. Here's what John McCain said about it on Fox News no less;
"Let's have a little straight talk, Martha, "The administration wouldn't have had the opportunity to handle it that way if we had not shut down the government on a fool's errand that we were not going to accomplish. The whole premise of shutting down the government was the repeal of Obamacare. I fought against Obamacare harder than any of the people who wanted to shut down the government."
Your "liberal media" is a myth Carol, it's no more real than unicorns but then again you live in a fantasy world anyway.

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RealDave wrote:
"We need more time!!!!!!!"
"we need more time"
Congress evidently sofa king stupid it does not know that the fiscal year ends September 30th & the new fiscal year starts October first.
No shit.
It happens every year.
Defund Congress.
Pass a law that starts ten weeks prior to the start of the new fiscal year & deducts 10% of their pay & benefits per week until a deal is reached.
You mean a budget?

How about Congress start doing its job again and do some planning. The very first thing to do when developing a plan is to pass a budget. For some reason, the Democrats think having a budget is not important.
As a result, the Democrats have doubled the debt, increase the deficit by one thousand percent (before the TEA Party joined Congress and reduced that deficit to 1.3 trillion dollars), and have absolutely no plan whatsoever for the government to end the suicidal actions of increasing the debt 8 percent every year just for its day-to-day existence.

Yeah. Stop paying EVERYONE in the Executive and Legislative branches until a budget is passed and signed.
That's a great idea.
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Prediction for this weeks teabagger cave:
Can kicked down the road as teabaggers cave to status quo!
Teabaggers beat their chests as Obama beats their asses.
Obamacare rolls on.
Obama wins again!
Right on...The biggest winners will be the American people as they witness first hand the insanity from the right. GOOOO OBAMA.

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Eed resorts to racial slurs yet again.
Democrats funded those military death benefits.
Republicans said they would fund them only if the ACA was defunded and delayed.
Golf couses are not funded through appropriations.
Eed is too stupid to know the closures were not due to availability of money. There were closed because funding was not appropriated. Something the President has no power over.
So, tell us why the Democrats stopped funding the death benefits.
Why didn't the Democrats fund death benefits and stop funding Big Bird? Obviously, Big Bird is more important than the people who volunteered to protect us and died doing that.

This is an excellent example of what the priorities of the Demcorats actually are. There was a choice, Big Bird or the patriots defending us. The Democrats gave the money to Big Bird, and no money to those who died protecting us.
The Democrats wouldn't even consider giving Big Bird less money so the death benefits could be paid. To the Democrats, Big Bird was so important, all death benefits had to be withheld so Big Bird could get all of the... what was it, 440 million dollars?

Tell us how much in death benefits the Demcorats thought was unimportant, and compare that to the amount of money given to PBS. Then, tell us why a small portion of the money given to PBS couldn't have been withheld so the death benefits to those who volunteered to protect us.

The impact would have been something like, PBS gets 438 million instead of 440 million, or something like that.

Every time you turn around, the Democrats are spitting into the faces of veterans. That's who the Democrats are.
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Reneging on its debt obligations would make the U.S. the first major Western government to default since Nazi Germany 80 years ago.

Germany unilaterally ceased payments on long-term borrowings on May 6, 1933, three months after Adolf Hitler was installed as Chancellor. The default helped cement Hitler’s power base following years of political instability as the Weimar Republic struggled with its crushing debts.
Enlarge image U.S. Risks Joining 1933 Germany in Pantheon of Deadbeat Defaults

Failure by the world’s biggest economy to pay its debt in an interconnected, globalized world risks an array of devastating consequences that could lay waste to stock markets from Brazil to Zurich. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg

“These are generally catastrophic economic events,” said Professor Eugene N. White, an economics historian at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey.“There is no happy ending.”

The debt reparations piled onto Germany, which in 1913 was the world’s third-biggest economy, sparked the hyperinflation, borrowings and political deadlock that brought the Nazis to power, and the default. It shows how excessive debt has capricious results, such as the civil war and despotism that ravaged Florence after England’s Edward III refused to pay his obligations from the city-state’s banks in 1339, and the Revolution of 1789 that followed the French Crown’s defaults in 1770 and 1788.

Failure by the world’s biggest economy to pay its debt in an interconnected, globalized world risks an array of devastating consequences that could lay waste to stock markets from Brazil to Zurich and bring the $5 trillion market in Treasury-backed loans to a halt. Borrowing costs would soar, the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency would be in doubt and the U.S. and world economies would risk plunging into recession -- and potentially depression.

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Why would the President fire Chuck Hagel stupid? He couldn't do anything until the President signed a bill authorizing the payments which in turn he couldn't do until Congress sent it to him.
It shouldn't have happened in the first place. Here's what John McCain said about it on Fox News no less;
"Let's have a little straight talk, Martha, "The administration wouldn't have had the opportunity to handle it that way if we had not shut down the government on a fool's errand that we were not going to accomplish. The whole premise of shutting down the government was the repeal of Obamacare. I fought against Obamacare harder than any of the people who wanted to shut down the government."
Your "liberal media" is a myth Carol, it's no more real than unicorns but then again you live in a fantasy world anyway.
The president couldn't do that, but he could find the extra money required to barrycade the World War II memorial, and he could give 440 million dollars to Big Bird, right?
The biggest problem with Democrats is that they expect, no, demand, the people listening to them are incredibly stupid.
Maybe after a few more years of so-called "progressives" educating the people, that may in fact happen.

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DBWriter, glad you’re back. You left before you explained your comment that while Obama has been president ANYONE that wants a job can find one and then followed that by a rant that Obama is a job killer.
Which is it?

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DEM OBAMA DEFAULT USA wrote:
Reneging on its debt obligations would make the U.S. the first major Western government to default since Nazi Germany 80 years ago.
Germany unilaterally ceased payments on long-term borrowings on May 6, 1933, three months after Adolf Hitler was installed as Chancellor. The default helped cement Hitler’s power base following years of political instability as the Weimar Republic struggled with its crushing debts.
Enlarge image U.S. Risks Joining 1933 Germany in Pantheon of Deadbeat Defaults
Failure by the world’s biggest economy to pay its debt in an interconnected, globalized world risks an array of devastating consequences that could lay waste to stock markets from Brazil to Zurich. Photographer: Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg
“These are generally catastrophic economic events,” said Professor Eugene N. White, an economics historian at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, New Jersey.“There is no happy ending.”
The debt reparations piled onto Germany, which in 1913 was the world’s third-biggest economy, sparked the hyperinflation, borrowings and political deadlock that brought the Nazis to power, and the default. It shows how excessive debt has capricious results, such as the civil war and despotism that ravaged Florence after England’s Edward III refused to pay his obligations from the city-state’s banks in 1339, and the Revolution of 1789 that followed the French Crown’s defaults in 1770 and 1788.
Failure by the world’s biggest economy to pay its debt in an interconnected, globalized world risks an array of devastating consequences that could lay waste to stock markets from Brazil to Zurich and bring the $5 trillion market in Treasury-backed loans to a halt. Borrowing costs would soar, the dollar’s role as the world’s reserve currency would be in doubt and the U.S. and world economies would risk plunging into recession -- and potentially depression.
There is ample revenue to pay the debt. Failure to use this revenue to pay the debt is an obvious violation of the 14th Amendment to the Cosntitution.

What we have is a president who is telling the entire country he intends to violate the Constitution.

And nobody seems to be concerned.
That is evidence we will not survive.
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So, tell us why the Democrats stopped funding the death benefits.
Why didn't the Democrats fund death benefits and stop funding Big Bird? Obviously, Big Bird is more important than the people who volunteered to protect us and died doing that.
This is an excellent example of what the priorities of the Demcorats actually are. There was a choice, Big Bird or the patriots defending us. The Democrats gave the money to Big Bird, and no money to those who died protecting us.
The Democrats wouldn't even consider giving Big Bird less money so the death benefits could be paid. To the Democrats, Big Bird was so important, all death benefits had to be withheld so Big Bird could get all of the... what was it, 440 million dollars?
Tell us how much in death benefits the Demcorats thought was unimportant, and compare that to the amount of money given to PBS. Then, tell us why a small portion of the money given to PBS couldn't have been withheld so the death benefits to those who volunteered to protect us.
The impact would have been something like, PBS gets 438 million instead of 440 million, or something like that.
Every time you turn around, the Democrats are spitting into the faces of veterans. That's who the Democrats are.
Get back on your meds idiot.

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DBWriter, glad you’re back. You left before you explained your comment that while Obama has been president ANYONE that wants a job can find one and then followed that by a rant that Obama is a job killer.
Which is it?
You ignored the fact that there are 30 millioin illegal aliens here. Tell anyone who says something stupid like they can't find a job to take one of those jobs. You can't walk around the block without seeing illegal aliens doing work Americans should be doing.

Obama's "recovcery" is creating 5 part time jobs for every 1 full time living wage job. That means those opportinuties are becoming fewer every day the Democrats are in power.
But, those opportunites are not gone entirely ... yet.

Like I said, if you can't find a job, find an illegal alien working and tell him that's your job because you're an American citizen, there are laws saying that's your job, and you have a president that will back you up and enforce those laws so you can do the work Americans need to do.

How about that idea?
Well, I was really reaching into the imagination when I said to tell that illegal alien doing the work that belongs to Americans that you have a president that will back you up and enforce the laws that protect you against an invasion of illegal aliens taking work away from Americans.
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Right on...The biggest winners will be the American people as they witness first hand the insanity from the right. GOOOO OBAMA.
The political arena has been pushing conservatives to give Obama everything he wants, so Obama can be responsible for the down fall of liberalism in American.
And it will be a political win when Obama sinks the nation.
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DBWriter wrote:
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There is ample revenue to pay the debt. Failure to use this revenue to pay the debt is an obvious violation of the 14th Amendment to the Cosntitution.
What we have is a president who is telling the entire country he intends to violate the Constitution.
And nobody seems to be concerned.
That is evidence we will not survive.
The I suggest that you run your 50cc Yamaha over a cliff before all of that happens...That will be your sacrifice nutcase.
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Emeem wrote:
DBWriter, glad you’re back. You left before you explained your comment that while Obama has been president ANYONE that wants a job can find one and then followed that by a rant that Obama is a job killer.
Which is it?
Smart money bets that old DB is on the dole himself.

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