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Nat Turner

Mabalacat, Philippines

#1002982 Oct 13, 2013
Yeah, they let me out of jail I told them cops everything! Don't worry though I did not mention that shipment of buds Ten Kilos that we got stashed in the Marina in Waikiki! Did you get that bong from Herb? Holla at ya.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#1002983 Oct 13, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
Shutdown is solely in the lap of Republicans.
"Late on the night of Sept. 30, with the federal government just hours away from shutting down, House Republicans quietly made a small change to the House rules that blocked a potential avenue for ending the shutdown."
The House and Senate were at an impasse on the night of Sept. 30.
With less than two hours to midnight and shutdown, Speaker John Boehner's latest plan emerged. House Republicans would "insist" on their latest spending bill, including the anti-Obamacare provision, and request a conference with the Senate to resolve the two chambers' differences.
Under normal House rules, according to House Democrats, once that bill had been rejected again by the Senate, then any member of the House could have made a motion to vote on the Senate's bill. Such a motion would have been what is called "privileged" and entitled to a vote of the full House. At that point, Democrats say, they could have joined with moderate Republicans in approving the motion and then in passing the clean Senate bill, averting a shutdown.
But previously, House Republicans had made a small but hugely consequential move to block them from doing it.
Here's the rule in question:
"When the stage of disagreement has been reached on a bill or resolution with House or Senate amendments, a motion to dispose of any amendment shall be privileged."
In other words, if the House and Senate are gridlocked as they were on the eve of the shutdown, any motion from any member to end that gridlock should be allowed to proceed. Like, for example, a motion to vote on the Senate bill. That's how House Democrats read it.
But the House Rules Committee voted the night of Sept. 30 to change that rule for this specific bill. They added language dictating that any motion "may be offered only by the majority Leader or his designee."
So unless House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) wanted the Senate spending bill to come to the floor, it wasn't going to happen. And it didn't.
"I've never seen this rule used. I'm not even sure they were certain we would have found it," a House Democratic aide told TPM. "This was an overabundance of caution on their part.'We've got to find every single crack in the dam that water can get through and plug it.'"
Congressional historians agreed that it was highly unusual for the House to reserve such power solely for the leadership.
"I've never heard of anything like that before," Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, told TPM.
"It is absolutely true that House rules tend to not have any explicit parliamentary rights guaranteed and narrowed to explicit party leaders," Sarah Binder, a congressional expert at the Brookings Institution, told TPM. "That's not typically how the rules are written."
Republican staff on the House Rules Committee did not respond to multiple requests for comment. But here's what House Rules Chairman Pete Sessions (R-TX) told Rep. Louise Slaughter (D-NY) when she raised those concerns before the rule change was approved.
"What we're attempting to do is to actually get our people together rather than trying to make a decision," Sessions said. "We're trying to actually have a conference and the gentlewoman knows that there are rules related to privileged motions that could take place almost effective immediately, and we're trying to go to conference."
"You know that there could be a privileged motion at any time...," Sessions continued as Slaughter continued to press the issue.
"To call for the vote on the Senate resolution," Slaughter interjected. "I think you've taken that away."
"I said you were correct. We took it away," Sessions said, "and the reason why is because we want to go to conference."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/the-house-gop...
This is what a coup looks like in a representative democracy. Read it and weep. The tea party knows what 'being a dick' means.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#1002984 Oct 13, 2013
Stoneman wrote:
<quoted text>

Tell us all about how you lefties are oh-so-caring about women.
Two words for you ,dopey.'Newt Gingrich'.
Nat Turner

Mabalacat, Philippines

#1002985 Oct 14, 2013
And so Whitey! we know that you are reading our post, and laugh at your vain cracker attempts to turn back the hands of time in your favor!

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Location hidden

#1002987 Oct 14, 2013
When you're broke, stop spending. We've got to limit government's growing debt before we become like Greece or Japan.
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1002988 Oct 14, 2013
Stoneman wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, Dickweed, did you vote for the guy that had his genitalia sucked and ejaculated in the face of a 20-year-old EMPLOYEE?
How about your presidential candidate in 2000 that assaulted a massage therapist in a Portland hotel room and behaved like a "sex poodle"?
One more, Dickweed: did you vote for a vice presidential candidate that pimped his wife's terminal cancer for sympathy votes while he was dicking a woman on the side?
Tell us all about how you lefties are oh-so-caring about women.
First off you are obviously way to stupid to even know the difference between politics and sexual deviates. I could set here and name Republicans all day long that are perverted lowlifes and have mistreated their wife along with other mens wife. Which party tries over and over again and again to tell women what they can and can't do with their bodies? Which party has always been against equal wages for doing the same job, which party tried to pass a vaginal probe bill. The list is long and ugly for your side and only a total moron [aka] baggers would even go there. Why do you think most women vote Democratic? But you are simply another clueless lock stepping bagger. that
Nat Turner

Mabalacat, Philippines

#1002989 Oct 14, 2013
And your cracker boxer Pac man got a one way ticket to Palookaville!
Grey Ghost

Partlow, VA

#1002990 Oct 14, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just hoping SS will still be around during my retirement before I kick the bucket.
You better start working on Plan B if you're still young enough.
According to the official Social Security website and the 2013 summary of annual reports:
"Neither Medicare nor Social Security can sustain projected long-run programs in full under currently scheduled financing, and legislative changes are necessary to avoid disruptive consequences for beneficiaries and taxpayers. If lawmakers take action sooner rather than later, more options and more time will be available to phase in changes so that the public has adequate time to prepare."
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TRSUM/index.html
You have been pretty much dead from the neck up for years now, so you need not worry about SS. Why any [real] woman would ever be so blind as to vote for a Republican especially a bagger is to remove all doubt as to their sanity. I'm positive that you need not fear the vaginal probe your party wanted as no one could possible be that desperate for you or [Whatever] except old sleezy Eed who also has confessed that he likes little boys.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1002991 Oct 14, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Hey dumbo: Hawaii ranks #1 among the 50 states in total welfare benefits.
http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/ArticlesMain/t...
"Total" here being the most available money per person in government assistance value.

That's because the cost of living in Hawaii is the highest in the country you dumbass.

You people re dumber than sh*t.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1002992 Oct 14, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm just hoping SS will still be around during my retirement before I kick the bucket.
You better start working on Plan B if you're still young enough.
According to the official Social Security website and the 2013 summary of annual reports:
"Neither Medicare nor Social Security can sustain projected long-run programs in full under currently scheduled financing, and legislative changes are necessary to avoid disruptive consequences for beneficiaries and taxpayers. If lawmakers take action sooner rather than later, more options and more time will be available to phase in changes so that the public has adequate time to prepare."
http://www.ssa.gov/OACT/TRSUM/index.html
Again, Carol, both programs currently do not add to the debt.

Both programs need to be adjusted periodically.

Republicans want to privatise SS & Medicare.

Democrats want to adjust the current system.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1002993 Oct 14, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
You either have a short memory or selective memory.
Democrats said Fannie & Freddie were doing just fine, remember?
Democrats took control of Congress in 2006 - two years before the housing bubble popped and the economy crashed - and still had control two years after.
No, the Democrats took control of Congress in Jan of 2007.

The recession started 4th quarter of 2007. Name the legislation the Democrats passed in the first 9 months of 2007 that created the recession.

Housing stated its decline on 2006.

When will you people own up to your party's failing & quit trying to blame Democrats?

Republicans took us from a balanced budget & a path towards surpluses.

Not Democrats.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1002994 Oct 14, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"poop"
How many days in the military did the boy president nobama serve? You know the loser president who could find money to keep his golf courses open but no monies to allow families of our military hero's who died so they could welcome them home?
You are one sick sorry pile of manure.
Peace
KMA
Eed resorts to racial slurs yet again.

Democrats funded those military death benefits.

Republicans said they would fund them only if the ACA was defunded and delayed.

Golf couses are not funded through appropriations.

Eed is too stupid to know the closures were not due to availability of money. There were closed because funding was not appropriated. Something the President has no power over.
Nat Turner

Mabalacat, Philippines

#1002995 Oct 14, 2013
God Hates Me! every time someone laughs, thats God laughing at me through them!

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1002997 Oct 14, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
I could provide text to debunk everyone of your stupid claims..read the bill and you will recognize yourself as the "dumbass".
So, what prevented you from providing that text? could it be you haven't got a clue what's in that law and you're just mindlessly regurgitating the party line propaganda you were instructed to regurgitate?

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#1002998 Oct 14, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> Neither program have not added to the debt.
You are friggin' out your mind!!!

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1002999 Oct 14, 2013
"We need more time!!!!!!!"

"we need more time"

Congress evidently sofa king stupid it does not know that the fiscal year ends September 30th & the new fiscal year starts October first.

No shit.

It happens every year.

Defund Congress.

Pass a law that starts ten weeks prior to the start of the new fiscal year & deducts 10% of their pay & benefits per week until a deal is reached.

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#1003000 Oct 14, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You are friggin' out your mind!!!
Show me where either Medicare or social security have added to the debt.

In 2010 the spending was more than revenues (thanks to the recession) but SS has build up surpluses & they covered that deficit.

Don't insult us by bringing up liabilities because you obviously have no clue that that means.

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#1003001 Oct 14, 2013
Prediction for this weeks teabagger cave:

Can kicked down the road as teabaggers cave to status quo!
Teabaggers beat their chests as Obama beats their asses.
Obamacare rolls on.
Obama wins again!

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003002 Oct 14, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
<quoted text>
Page 272/section 1145:
‘‘(18) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT FOR CANCER HOSPITALS.—‘‘(A) STUDY.—The Secretary shall conduct a study to determine if, under the system under this subsection, costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) with respect to ambulatory payment classification groups exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection (as determined appropriate by the Secretary).
‘‘(B) AUTHORIZATION OF ADJUSTMENT.—Insofar as the Secretary determines under subparagraph (A) that costs incurred by hospitals described in section 1886(d)(1)(B)(v) exceed those costs incurred by other hospitals furnishing services under this subsection, the Secretary shall provide for an appropriate adjustment under paragraph (2)(E) to reflect those higher costs effective for services furnished on or after January 1, 2011.’’.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-111hr3200i...
Yep, Dumb and Dumber
Ignorant, and more ignorant.
There I wuz, sitting on the lake wondering what lure I'm going to use next. I choose the "provide the text" top water obnoxious clown-colored lure with more hooks than lure, and look what I caught. One of the stupidest fish in the lake.

Obviously, you are ignorant of the most significant descriptions of governmental philosophy ever written in the history of civilization.
You don't even recognize that the text you provided could have been from one of Machiavelli's letters that comprise "The Prince".

"The Secretary shall determine...."
Do you even realize what this law means when it gives arbitrary and subjective authority to some person who occupies some position in government?

What you provided is proof there is no law to be enforced. Everything you provided proves ObamaKare intends for subjective enforcement. There is no criteria in the text you provided for the people to read and understand what the law is that they must comply with.
What is written in the law is, the Secretary decides who gets health care, and who doesn't. The Secretary decides what hospitals get paid, and which ones do not.

The ObamaKare law is nothing more than another Democrat Marxist program to give what one individual works for to someone who won't work for it.
The ObamaKare law couldn't have been more Marxist if Karl Marx would have written it himself, and it couldn't be more Machiavellian if Machiavelli had to approve what Karl Marx wrote.

"The Secretary will determine...."
The Secretary will not be reviewing and approving/denying payment. There will be a huge bureaucracy doing that, under the orders and guidance of the Secretary... like the IRS Secretary ordering the opponents of the Democrats be targeted.
Since that same person will be the "Secretary" adjudicating ObamaKare, it's obvious those who oppose the Democrats will be dying on the street without health care.

ObamaKare is a Marxist program with Machiavellian execution.
It's that plain and simple, and obviously medieval.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#1003003 Oct 14, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Show me where either Medicare or social security have added to the debt.
In 2010 the spending was more than revenues (thanks to the recession) but SS has build up surpluses & they covered that deficit.
Don't insult us by bringing up liabilities because you obviously have no clue that that means.
... idiots.
The recession the Democrats' CRA program caused when it collapsed the economy after two years oversight by Democrats Dodd and Frank, from whom we heard a constant stream of lies right up to the collapse....

Congress adds to the debt by borrowing money. Appropriations add to the deficit, which is covered by Congress borrowing money, thus increasing the debt.
The money paid to Social Security is put into the general revenue funds, and Social Security is paid out of the general appropriations funds. You'd know this if you knew anything at all about what comes out of your mouth.

I really wish you knew how our government works, dumbass.

But, since you mentioned it, let's fix Social Security right here and now.
IF YOU DIDN'T PAY INTO SOCIAL SECURITY, YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING FROM SOCIAL SECURITY.
That will fix Social Security overnight.

Now that we've fixed Social Security, what other problem do you have?

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