Barack Obama, our next President

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Michelle

New York, NY

#994633 Oct 3, 2013
Homer wrote:
I think down the road will be sorry if the name 'Obamacare' sticks. He will always be credited.
Yes he will, especially when it eventually becomes known as ObamaCIDE.

We already knew that in spite of its astronomical costs, Obamacare will leave 30 million Americans uninsured, but a new nationwide Gallup survey suggests that millions of uninsured Americans have no intention of signing up for coverage through the law's exchanges.

This is potentially a huge deal.(And earth to HOMER, it isn't only "poor white HICKS" who can't be bothered and would rather pay a fine or wait until they are sick to sign up.)

Obamacare's funding model relies on younger, healthier Americans overpaying for insurance in order to subsidize older, sicker people.

One can make the argument that this form of generational redistribution is fair and moral, but that's not how the law was sold.

Everyone -- including the young -- were promised that their coverage would be less expensive, and that if they were satisfied with their existing healthcare arrangement, it wouldn't change at all.

Now that these promises are being laid to waste, many people in the "young invincibles" cohort may decide that it isn't worth signing up for the law's expensive coverage -- especially since they MUST be treated at hospitals if something goes wrong, then MUST be sold "insurance" if they develop a pre-existing condition.

Paying the IRS-enforced Obamacare mandate tax would be far cheaper than voluntarily shelling out for Obamacare's rising premiums.

The poll indicates that fully one in four uninsured Americans -- many of them relatively young and healthy, presumably -- have already made the decision to forgo coverage and pay the resulting fine/tax.

The follow-up question suggests that less than half of this group (48 percent) is explicitly planning to seek out coverage through the exchanges.

More than one-third (36 percent) "do not plan" to do so. If those numbers are even close to predictive of how people will act, the data spells real trouble for the law's long-term sustainability.

Before Obamacare was passed, we were told there were some 40 million uninsured.

Roughly a third were young people making enough money to buy it but opted not to (went for the upscale car instead).

Another third were already eligible for Medicaid but never signed up. They are the ones who show up in ER's when something happens.

Newsflash for Obama and Kathleen Succubus: As poll shows, they aren't going to sign up for Obamacare either.

Why? Same reason they didn't sign up for Medicaid.

Some of them are illegals, some are mentally ill and addicted and living on the streets, and some of them do not want to be found (like the deadbeat dads and others with warrants out for their arrest).

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#994634 Oct 3, 2013
Yeah wrote:
lol! You know, Boehner is really caught between a rock and a hard place.
I think it was "corodingelectrode" who quoted "... the enemy of my enemy is my friend..."
When Boehener looks to the t-p, then looks to the non cons....
... what do you think he sees?
I'll ask you the same question I asked Homer.

If this were a strictly partisan Republican bill and they refused to negotiate any terms of that bill with Democrats, would you want your party to give them everything they wanted or fight for your party's voice to be heard and recognized?

And let's just say in this hypothetical strictly partisan Republican version of ACA, there are the same "glitches" and the same majority are against it.

What would Democratic House Representative Yeah do?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#994635 Oct 3, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
Alec Baldwin's phenomenal:
1- there is, perhaps, nothing more offensive than watching the out of touch, sanctimonious William Kristol smirk his way through MORNING JOE
ABFoundation (@ABFalecbaldwin) October 2, 2013
2- talking about the govt shutdown. Kristol wants to write it off w a C'est la guerre insouciance. More blatantly out of touch white men
ABFoundation (@ABFalecbaldwin) October 2, 2013
3- minimizing everyone else's suffering. Carl Bernstein schools both Kristol and Joe S w the appropriate blend of history, policy, humanism.
ABFoundation (@ABFalecbaldwin) October 2, 2013
4-and what's with Scarborough, barking at his guests in that Hannity-esque Catholic school gym teacher style?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/02/alec...
Alec Baldwin is even funnier when abusing his daughter in a hysterical tirade....human trash...
Michelle

New York, NY

#994636 Oct 3, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes! It will forever be known as that now! Remember when the President said "Obamacares, I like it"
Brilliant turnaround!
The whole sentence was:

"Obamacares, I like it but I don't have to use it."
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#994637 Oct 3, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>The respected PNC Bank economic outlook survey indicates that 78% of the firms surveyed are not delaying hiring/staffing because of the health care law. Many of those firms are more worried about government spending cutbacks however.
Someone is lying.
Meaning that 22% of firms are delaying hiring/staffing because of ObamaKKKare, a huge economic drag....

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#994638 Oct 3, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe he's looking for a used SS number to use!
At least my SS number is from the state I was born in.
Michelle

New York, NY

#994639 Oct 3, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
It's amazing how fast the propaganda machine works with you wingnuts. A few of you posted this to facebook the same time as you. Stupid idiots. I hope all of you retards call the number and it's someone scammer stealing your identities. Idiots.
And, yes, you can make anything up and you retards believe it.
"Retards?" So sophisticated.

"someone scammer stealing your identities." Will be the unscreened government "Navigators" --some with criminal backgrounds-- stealing and selling your and your children's personal information.
Lakeesha Bocateesha

Lakewood, NJ

#994640 Oct 3, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Grampys still married...
...and ol' lily's still a drunken supporter of the obammy machine
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#994641 Oct 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
These Republicans want Obama to own it. I'm torn because of the same "once you let the cat out of the bag" dilemma...
If this were a strictly partisan Republican bill and they refused to negotiate any part of it with the Democrats, would you choose to let the cat out of the bag?
The 'bill' was passed 3 fcking years ago, Republicans wanted no part of it and chose to sit on the sidelines as a party. The majority in the house and senate passed it and the president signed it.

So fund the government Tea Bag morons, put it to an up/down vote Boehnerhead, pass a clean bill.

The Democrats and Obama are already basking in the success of ACA.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#994642 Oct 3, 2013
RealDave wrote:
You know the ACA must be doing well with the exchanges.
Im thinking half the people logging on to the exchange site were right whiners seeing how much more expensive coverage would be for them.
Note that Carol or Dumbwaiter aren't here broadcasting how expensive it will be for them.
Flack hasn't even reported in but then again, he's shopping for a used policy to save money..
Haven't called. Not going to call. I pay my own way thank you very much.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#994643 Oct 3, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
http://thinkprogress.org/healt h/2013/10/02/2721501/butch-mat thews-obamacare-convert/
Butch Matthews loves Obamacare, saved him $13,000 a year.
Why should the taxpayers reward a slacker who retired at an early age, before he could afford to do so?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#994644 Oct 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll ask you the same question I asked Homer.
If this were a strictly partisan Republican bill and they refused to negotiate any terms of that bill with Democrats, would you want your party to give them everything they wanted or fight for your party's voice to be heard and recognized?
And let's just say in this hypothetical strictly partisan Republican version of ACA, there are the same "glitches" and the same majority are against it.
What would Democratic House Representative Yeah do?
If a Republican majority in congress voted for a bill and it went through a Republican controlled senate and was signed by a Republican president, it's the law of the land, so be it, that is how our government works.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#994645 Oct 3, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
I'll ask you the same question I asked Homer.
If this were a strictly partisan Republican bill and they refused to negotiate any terms of that bill with Democrats, would you want your party to give them everything they wanted or fight for your party's voice to be heard and recognized?
And let's just say in this hypothetical strictly partisan Republican version of ACA, there are the same "glitches" and the same majority are against it.
What would Democratic House Representative Yeah do?
Last I checked it was the t-p that's being obstinate.

And I sure don't see them making any concessions to anyone.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#994646 Oct 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> At least my SS number is from the state I was born in.
lol! Well, that's your claim son!
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#994647 Oct 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> At least my SS number is from the state I was born in.
So tell me, what SS does John McCain have?
Alec Baldwin

Lakewood, NJ

#994648 Oct 3, 2013
Lakeesha Bocateesha wrote:
<quoted text>...and ol' lily's still a drunken supporter of the obammy machine
...and she must be...she even thinks I'm a good father! LOL

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#994649 Oct 3, 2013
Eric Cantor said that Republicans are shutting down government because they believe laws should apply equally to everyone.

Then the dumb bastard said that it was not fair that Corporations got a year extension on the mandate & people did not.

So, we have conformation yet again that Republicans think corporations are people. They share equal ground.

Great. I'm writing off all my expenses on my income taxes. House expenses, taxes, insurances, utilities, education. I'll write off that trip to China to explore the lifestyle of the Chinese. I'll have wild parties with my wife &write them off as conferences. Maybe hire a hooker as R & D.

Why should Corporations be allowed & not people?

Republicans get dumber every GD day.

Eric Cantor is about the most ridiculous poor excuse of a Congressman there is. He spent 8 years under Bush voting yes yes yes to unfunded spending out the gazoo while ignoring healthcare. Obama gets elected & Cantor runs screaming like a little girl " OMG OMG Spending OMG OMG Debt OMG OMG Healthcare OMG OMG OMG"

And dumbasses like Galt & Flack soak it up like a dry sponge in a cesspool

This is how ridiculous the right has become. How GD stupid they are.
forks_make_us_fa t

Norman, OK

#994650 Oct 3, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>The 'bill' was passed 3 fcking years ago, Republicans wanted no part of it and chose to sit on the sidelines as a party. The majority in the house and senate passed it and the president signed it.
So fund the government Tea Bag morons, put it to an up/down vote Boehnerhead, pass a clean bill.
The Democrats and Obama are already basking in the success of ACA.
The House can do what it wants...your pissed because Obammmie can't make it do what he wants...
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#994651 Oct 3, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Haven't called. Not going to call. I pay my own way thank you very much.
WE know, I made mention of this earlier -

'What is sad is that the poor white hicks who would benefit from ACA will thumb their noses at it because of their hatred for Obama.

I do not expect for long though, they will jump in eventually once they see what a good program it is.'- Homer

Since: May 11

Chambersburg, PA

#994652 Oct 3, 2013
I don't know which is more pathetic.

Listening to Bush come up with excuse after excuse why he invaded Iraq or listening to Republican excuses on why they shut down government.

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