Barack Obama, our next President

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“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#987799 Sep 23, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Like the government has not done stimulus efforts in the past.
Where is this inflation you have been predicting for the past 5 years.
Where the f*ck is it.
All we get is " OMG OMG OMG inflation inflation" for 5 GD years.
Where is it???
Been printing money for 5 years too. When it comes, and it will, let us hope it doesn't get back to Carter's 18%-20% interest rates. Remember those days? I do they sucked except for savings.
Annie

New York, NY

#987800 Sep 23, 2013
Obammy speech = never let a crisis go to waste.

"By now, though, it should be clear that the change we need will not come from Washington, even when tragedy strikes Washington. Change will come the only way it ever has come, and that’s from the American people. So the question now is not whether, as Americans, we care in moments of tragedy. Clearly, we care. Our hearts are broken -- again. And we care so deeply about these families. But the question is, do we care enough?

Do we care enough to keep standing up for the country that we know is possible, even if it’s hard, and even if it’s politically uncomfortable? Do we care enough to sustain the passion and the pressure to make our communities safer and our country safer? Do we care enough to do everything we can to spare other families the pain that is felt here today?

Our tears are not enough. Our words and our prayers are not enough. If we really want to honor these 12 men and women, if we really want to be a country where we can go to work, and go to school, and walk our streets free from senseless violence, without so many lives being stolen by a bullet from a gun, then we're going to have to change. We're going to have to change."

Was he talking about the baby mama crisis that breeds neighborhoods where 13 people getting shot in a park on Saturday night including a 3 year old in the face? no, that's too politically uncomfortable.

No, the change he's talking about is that law abiding citizens should not have access to guns.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#987801 Sep 23, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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How would a person get a tax refund unless they paid into the system.
Really? You are really asking that question? Hahahahahaha!!!!!
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987802 Sep 23, 2013
Annie wrote:
<quoted text>ObamaCare will take itself down.
Good News: The Government Doesn't Know How Much You Should Be Paying for Health Insurance
LOL! Who is surprised?
And away we go…
We're eight days away from the official launch date of the Obamacare exchanges, which will launch next Tuesday. Although the employer mandate has been delayed, the individual mandate is still in place, forcing regular, everyday Americans to comply with the exchanges by October 1.
The problem? The government doesn't know exactly how much you should be paying for health insurance.
More from the Wall Street Journal:
The government's software can't reliably determine how much people need to pay for coverage, according to insurance executives and people familiar with the program.
Government officials and insurers were scrambling to iron out the pricing quirks quickly, according to the people, to avoid alienating the initial wave of consumers.
Four people familiar with the development of the software that determines how much people would pay for subsidized coverage on the federally run exchanges said it was still miscalculating prices.
Tests on the calculator initially scheduled to begin months ago only started this week at some insurers, according to insurance executives and two people familiar with development efforts.
"There's a blanket acknowledgment that rates are being calculated incorrectly," said one senior health-insurance executive who asked not to be named. "Our tech and operations people are very concerned about the problems they're seeing and the potential of them to stick around."
Not surprisingly, instead of inserting a delay, the Obama administration is going to iron out the kinks as we go.(Maybe Obama will appoint a Kinks Czar).
The Obama administration says open enrollment will begin Oct. 1 on schedule. "We may encounter some bumps when open enrollment begins but we'll solve them," said Gary Cohen, director of the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight, one of the main offices within Medicare charged with developing the exchanges, in congressional testimony on Thursday.
Meanwhile, major companies like Walgreens and Home Depot are continuing to drop health coverage and are dumping their employees into the government exchanges, which are improperly calculating costs.
So, let's see how this works:
1, CREATE a problem
2. worsen the problem
3. claim ONLY goobmint can solve the problem
4. make problem worse
5. claim ONLY goobmint can solve the worsening
And congratulate themselves for being so awesome----while exempting themselves from their own awesomeness.
that's an awfully long post for something that's going to take care of itself. and why all the worry about defunding something that's going to take care of itself? and why is Ted Cruz getting smacked around by FOX for something that's going to take care of itself? blah blah blah, blah blah blah, all day long.
Annie

New York, NY

#987803 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Ted Cruz Falls Apart on Fox and Goes Silent When Asked How He Will Win Obamacare Fight
I think we can take Sen. Cruz’s silence as confirmation that he has no plan to win and defund Obamacare. Cruz never answered the criticism that he has gotten them into this fight, and he has no plan to get them out. He doesn’t have a plan. Cruz never did have a plan. For Ted Cruz, this whole scheme is about giving him a soapbox that he can use to launch his 2016 presidential campaign.
Sen. Cruz retreat into campaign talking points about the career politicians in Washington is proof that his Canadian bacon is frying on this one. As Paul Gigot of the Wall Street Journal revealed, Cruz never intended to win this Obamacare fight. He knows he can’t win. For him, this is all about building a popular rebellion over Obamacare that he can use in 2016.
Ted Cruz is intentionally screwing over the Republican Party for his own political gain. He has gotten Republicans into a fight that they will not only lose, but it could also give Democrats back control of the House in 2014.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/22/ted-cr...
According to a new Gallup poll, 55 percent of Americans say they have little to no confidence that they can rely on mass media to report the news "fully, accurately and fairly."

Forty-six percent say the media is too liberal and just 13 percent think it's too conservative.

Justification for this public sentiment is evident as the budget and debt-ceiling issues heat up and the press can hardly restrain its disdain for Tea Party Republicans and the idea that our nation may really be in crisis.

New York Times columnist David Brooks does a regular political commentary feature along with Mark Shields on the "PBS NewsHour." It's hard to believe that this feature is supposed to be balanced, with Brooks the alleged conservative and Shields the liberal. But for PBS, like The New York Times where Brooks writes his column, anyone not on the far left is a conservative.

In a recent "NewsHour" segment about the budget debate, Brooks talked about "the rise of Ted Cruzism."

According to Brooks, the Republican freshman senator from Texas is not a "normal" senator who sees himself in Congress to form alliances and pass legislation. Rather, per Brooks, Cruz is more a "media protest person."

The same thing is happening in the House, says Brooks. House Republicans are "not normal.... They just want to obstruct."

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#987804 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Ted Cruz Falls Apart on Fox and Goes Silent When Asked How He Will Win Obamacare Fight
I think we can take Sen. Cruz’s silence as confirmation that he has no plan to win and defund Obamacare. Cruz never answered the criticism that he has gotten them into this fight, and he has no plan to get them out. He doesn’t have a plan. Cruz never did have a plan. For Ted Cruz, this whole scheme is about giving him a soapbox that he can use to launch his 2016 presidential campaign.
Sen. Cruz retreat into campaign talking points about the career politicians in Washington is proof that his Canadian bacon is frying on this one. As Paul Gigot of the Wall Street Journal revealed, Cruz never intended to win this Obamacare fight. He knows he can’t win. For him, this is all about building a popular rebellion over Obamacare that he can use in 2016.
Ted Cruz is intentionally screwing over the Republican Party for his own political gain. He has gotten Republicans into a fight that they will not only lose, but it could also give Democrats back control of the House in 2014.
http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/22/ted-cr...
It seems the Tokyo Rove section of the Republcian party is convinced they should roll over and play dead when Obama raises his voice.

They could learn a thing or two from Putin, Cruz has.
Annie

New York, NY

#987805 Sep 23, 2013
The Center for Urban Renewal and Education, held an event in Washington two weeks ago titled "Reversing the Urban Plight."

About 100 black pastors and community leaders from around the country listened as black conservatives such as Dr. Ben Carson, economist Walter Williams, Louisiana State Sen. Elbert Guillory and CURE chairman and Family Research Council senior fellow Ken Blackwell talked about how freedom and conservative principles hold the key to resolving our urban crises.

At dinner, Cruz dropped by.

In stark contrast to what the PBS viewing audience heard from Brooks, this audience heard remarks from Cruz that everyone in the room found refreshingly normal.

Cruz had a crisp, clear message about getting America back on track and about what it will take to save our low-income urban communities.

He talked about the importance of school choice and personal retirement accounts for low-income Americans.

Only in Washington is it considered abnormal and obstructionist for a member of Congress to ring the alarm about the loss of freedom in America, to take a stand to restore it, and suggest that Americans, particularly low-income Americans, should be able to decide what kind of school they send their child to and to keep and save more of their hard-earned income.

In Cruz, the black pastors heard someone who wants to liberate, not obstruct. They understood that the obstructionists, whose agenda is holding onto and expanding their own power, come from the political class in Washington.

While the median American family income dropped 6.6 percent from 2000 to 2012, median family income in Washington, D.C., grew 23.3 percent -- by far the highest in the nation, new Census Bureau data show.

Let's recall that the tea party movement got going when it was clear in 2009 that America's new president saw more government rather than less as the answer to America's crisis.

The 2010 health care reform commonly called "Obamacare," which passed without a single Republican vote, has only gotten more unpopular. A USA Today/Pew Research Center poll this week shows 53 percent of Americans disapprove of the new law and 42 percent approve. Forty one percent strongly disapprove and 26 percent strongly approve.

It's Washington that is abnormal, not Ted Cruz and tea party Republicans.

Only a left-wing press can conclude that the abnormal obstructionists are those taking a stand for freedom in a country that is supposed to be free.

Ted Cruz Isn't Abnormal, Washington Is.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#987806 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, we can blame Bush for the 3 disillusioned Americans who took part in that attack.
Did Obama capture them?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987807 Sep 23, 2013
Tempers flare inside GOP as Obamacare defunding fight escalates

http://washingtonexaminer.com/tempers-flare-i...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987808 Sep 23, 2013
Annie wrote:
<quoted text>According to a new Gallup poll, 55 percent of Americans say they have little to no confidence that they can rely on mass media to report the news "fully, accurately and fairly."
Forty-six percent say the media is too liberal and just 13 percent think it's too conservative.
Justification for this public sentiment is evident as the budget and debt-ceiling issues heat up and the press can hardly restrain its disdain for Tea Party Republicans and the idea that our nation may really be in crisis.
New York Times columnist David Brooks does a regular political commentary feature along with Mark Shields on the "PBS NewsHour." It's hard to believe that this feature is supposed to be balanced, with Brooks the alleged conservative and Shields the liberal. But for PBS, like The New York Times where Brooks writes his column, anyone not on the far left is a conservative.
In a recent "NewsHour" segment about the budget debate, Brooks talked about "the rise of Ted Cruzism."
According to Brooks, the Republican freshman senator from Texas is not a "normal" senator who sees himself in Congress to form alliances and pass legislation. Rather, per Brooks, Cruz is more a "media protest person."
The same thing is happening in the House, says Brooks. House Republicans are "not normal.... They just want to obstruct."
trying to take the heat off of FOX and it's RINO talking points?

Fox News Admits That Republicans Sent Them Opposition Research To Use Against Ted Cruz

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/09/22/fox-ne...

seems they're now obstructing each other.

it's the culture.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987809 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
Did Obama capture them?
like Bush captured bin Laden?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987810 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
It seems the Tokyo Rove section of the Republcian party is convinced they should roll over and play dead when Obama raises his voice.
They could learn a thing or two from Putin, Cruz has.
Putin who didn't want us attacking one of the countries that Russia supports?

though somewhat different from Cruz attacking a country who doesn't support him.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987811 Sep 23, 2013
House Republicans accuse Senate colleagues of caving on push to de-fund ObamaCare

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/19/ho...

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#987813 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
like Bush captured bin Laden?
No, like Clinton
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987814 Sep 23, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
No, like Clinton
you may have a point considering that there was no way Bush was going to capture him. Clinton should have considered that and not passed it on to the next Democrat in the WH.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#987815 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Tempers flare inside GOP as Obamacare defunding fight escalates
http://washingtonexaminer.com/tempers-flare-i...
Obamacare adds to the debt - it increases the debt.(according to the CBO)

t's the culture...

“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#987816 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
yes, we can blame Bush for the 3 disillusioned Americans who took part in that attack.
Aw, now, SF, you know Dumbya spread Democracy to all those Middle Easterners--even the dead ones--it was the objective (since catching bin Laden or finding WMDs didn't pan out so well). God or Cheney told him it was the right thing to do.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#987817 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
House Republicans accuse Senate colleagues of caving on push to de-fund ObamaCare
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/19/ho...
We used to think you were overdosing on an excessive amount cut-n-paste sonicmoron. Now we realize it's a normal reaction you have to an abnormal amout of idiot and dumbass...

It's the culture...
Annie

New York, NY

#987819 Sep 23, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
that's an awfully long post for something that's going to take care of itself. and why all the worry about defunding something that's going to take care of itself? and why is Ted Cruz getting smacked around by FOX for something that's going to take care of itself? blah blah blah, blah blah blah, all day long.
Right, why the worry that the government as usual will bungle a system. Blah, blah, blah...too bad there is no common sense in Washington, because it is the government's interference with health care that got us in the current mess that neither party has every really tried to fix by (from another poster):

First, remove regulations that advantage one insurance provider over another, create a level playing field for all insurance carriers to increase competition. This includes removing state mandates that prevent insurance companies from offering insurance across all 50 states. The actual purpose of the commerce clause was to prevent one state from creating barriers to businesses from other states. State mandates violate the commerce clause as well as force consumers to purchase products they don’t want in order to get the product they need – that’s coercion.

Second, provide the same tax incentives to the individual purchasing health insuranceas the business owner enjoys. This will increase portability as one’s health insurance won’t be tied to a job. This allows increased cost control as the individual is incentivized to keep an eye on the reimbursement the insurance carrier provides.

Shift towards catastrophic care insurance with pay as you go for routine care. Our auto insurance doesn’t cover our oil changes. Our health insurance shouldn’t cover expected doctor’s visits. Direct pay between patient and doctor will further serve to control costs as medical offices will bill actual costs versus “reasonable and customary” fees.

Phase out Medicare and Medicaid. Let each individual state determine how best to care for their uninsured. Each additional level of bureaucracy increases cost without any increase in benefits received.

Remove regulations that distort the number of providers in the various medical specialties. This will normalize availability of providers which will improve our availability of care.

Repeal Obamacare.This legislation only worsens the already overregulated and controlled health care industry.

Where you have a provider able to fill a need, a consumer willing to pay and an absence of unnatural interference, the free market will see to it that the consumer’s needs are best met.

Since the inception of health care insurance, there have only been a few years in the late 1920’s that it operated in a free market system. Since Blue Cross received its first favorable regulation in 1932, the free market ceased to determine how health care insurance is provided.

Let’s give the free market a chance to solve the health care crisis – that is our quickest path to affordable health care for America and the only Constitutional option.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#987820 Sep 23, 2013
No Surprize wrote:
<quoted text>Obamacare adds to the debt - it increases the debt.(according to the CBO)
t's the culture...
In March 2010, CBO and JCT projected that the provisions of the ACA related to health insurance coverage would cost the federal government $759 billion during fiscal years 2014 through 2019 (which was the last year in the 10-year budget window being used at that time). The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period. As shown in the figure below, the intervening projections of the cost of the ACA’s coverage provisions for those years have all been close to those figures on a year-by-year basis; of course, the 10-year totals have changed as the time frame for the estimates has shifted.

Those amounts do not reflect the total budgetary impact of the ACA. That legislation includes many other provisions that, on net, will reduce budget deficits. Taking the coverage provisions and other provisions together, CBO and JCT have estimated that the ACA will reduce deficits over the next 10 years and in the subsequent decade.

http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44176

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