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#986899 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

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"Metal Screws, Pins, Plates, and Rods (Traumatic Fracture Repair)
> Number of procedures: 453,000
> Total annual expenditure:$4.5 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$2,000-$20,000
> Major manufacturer: Synthes (50%)"

http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...

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#986900 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

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"Artificial Knees
> Number of procedures: 543,000
> Total annual expenditure:$12 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$22,000
> Major manufacturer: Zimmer (24%), Depuy/J&J, Stryker, Biomet, Smith & Nephew"

http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#986901 Sep 21, 2013
Coming to America

CARACAS (Reuters)- A Venezuelan state agency on Friday ordered the temporary takeover of a factory that produces toilet paper in what it called an effort to ensure consistent supplies after embarrassing shortages earlier this year.

Critics of President Nicolas Maduro say the nagging shortages of products ranging from bathroom tissue to milk are a sign his socialist government's rigid price and currency controls are failing. They have also used the situation to poke fun at his administration on social media networks.

A national agency called Sundecop, which enforces price controls, said in a statement it would occupy one of the factories belonging to paper producer Manpa for 15 days, adding that National Guard troops would "safeguard" the facility.

"The action in the producer of toilet paper, sanitary napkins and disposable diapers responds to the state's obligation to ensure a steady supply of basic goods for the people," Sundecop said, adding it had observed "the violation of the right" to access such products.

Calls to the Manpa factory went unanswered.

Government supporters laud efforts by Maduro, the successor to late socialist leader Hugo Chavez, for maintaining tough regulations of private businesses.

They blame unscrupulous merchants for hoarding products to make quick profits, and celebrate the socialist government's legacy of social assistance programs.

Critics say the shortages of consumer goods are caused by businesses' inability to import raw materials and machinery because of a shortage of hard currency under the exchange controls.

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#986902 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

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"Coronary Stents
> Number of procedures: 560,000
> Total annual expenditure:$7.5 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$13,000
> Major manufacturer: Boston Scientific (46%), Abbott Laboratories"

http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...

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#986903 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

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"Ear Tubes (Tympanostomy Tubes)
> Number of procedures: 715,000
> Total annual expenditure:$1 billion-$2 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$1,000-$4,500
> Major manufacturer: N/A"

http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...

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#986904 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

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"Artificial Eye Lenses (Psuedophakos)
> No. of procedures: 2.582 million
> Total annual expenditure:$8 billion –$10 billion
> Average cost per eye:$3,200-$4,500, depending on lens type
> Major manufacturers: Alcon Laboratories/Novartis, Abbott Laboratories, Bausch & Lomb"

http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...

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#986905 Sep 21, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
What happens when people accustomed to "free" medical care are required to pay now that they have insurance?
Will welfare pay the deductibles and copays?
Those currently getting free care will never pay based on their Obamacare subsidies.

Now tell us what the middle class deductibles will be?
qwerty

Western Springs, IL

#986906 Sep 21, 2013
Huh

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#986907 Sep 21, 2013
The empty suit...

55 percent of Obama’s Twitter followers are fake

http://dailycaller.com/2013/09/20/55-percent-...

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#986908 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

"Some health economists peg the current cost of drug development at US$1.3 billion, others at US$1.7 billion."

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#986909 Sep 21, 2013
killtaker wrote:
For dumazzDave
why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...
no 4
"Artificial Knees
> Number of procedures: 543,000
> Total annual expenditure:$12 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$22,000
> Major manufacturer: Zimmer (24%), Depuy/J&J, Stryker, Biomet, Smith & Nephew"
http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...
The large number of knee replacements is one of the health benefits of the jogging mania.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#986910 Sep 21, 2013

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#986911 Sep 21, 2013
For dumazzDave

why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

"Health care fraud costs the country an estimated $80 billion a year"

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/white...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#986912 Sep 21, 2013
killtaker wrote:
For dumazzDave
why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...
no 2
"Ear Tubes (Tympanostomy Tubes)
> Number of procedures: 715,000
> Total annual expenditure:$1 billion-$2 billion
> Average cost per procedure:$1,000-$4,500
> Major manufacturer: N/A"
http://247wallst.com/healthcare-economy/2011/...
A large portion of these procedures are unnecessary, but demanded by psycho mommies who panic when their kid has an earache.
TSM

El Paso, TX

#986913 Sep 21, 2013
Anyone over Five knows there’s nothing’ Free’ someone Pays and Obamacare is Not Free!!

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#986914 Sep 21, 2013
why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

When a phrekkin Doctor has shitty ethics...we are sunk...

"Staten Island Doctor Sentenced to 151 Months in Prison in Connection with $77 Million Medicare Fraud Scheme"

http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/201...
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#986915 Sep 21, 2013

Liberal International Free Trade Markets are taking a bite out of our overpriced medical Health Care systems. One of many examples is Mr.Shopenn of Warsaw Indiana, who required a hip replacement recently. Arthritis had set in making standing a painful exhausting effort even for short periods of time. He had the necessary health insurance but was told they would not cover it. They determined the arthritis was pre existing condition from an earlier sports injury.
Desperation motivated Mr.Shopenn to seek his solution. First he obtained a large discount thru a friend for a hip joint implant for $13,000. Then how much would the hospital charge to have it installed. Best price he could find was $65,000, Not including surgeons fees. Mr.Shopenn’s life savings indicated this was not acceptable.
Learning of the growing medical tourist seeking their medical procedures in various other areas of the world. Thailand, India, are two he turned down and settled for hospital in Brussels which offered the entire procedure, hospital room for 5 days and 1 week of therapy, with all expense’s paid including his round trip air fare for a total price of $13,600!
After his replacement and return to the USA he commented; “We have the most expensive health care in the world, but it doesn’t necessarily mean it’s the best,” Mr. Shopenn said.“I’m kind of the poster child for that.”
Mr.Shopenn’s discount, for the hip implant alone, is not appreciated by the privately insured in the USA who get billed up to 3 times that $13,000 discount of Mr.Shopenn. Dr. Blair Rhode, an orthopedist entrepreneur who manufactures hip implants explains the actual cost to one hip plant implant in the USA total cost is $350. Cost increase is stimulated by a cartel of 5 manufactures here in the USA . Averaging 5% increase per year in cost to implants, by tweaking older models and patent them as new models. Raising the prices on hip implants, knee implants, sterilized pieces of tooled metal, plastic, or ceramics, etc.
Dr. Peter M Cram of the University of Iowa, discovered in his studies for the high cost for the USA’s Health Care. The Cartel of 5 ferociously guard their domains from foreign manufactures with trade policies, patents and an expensive Food and Drug Administration approval process that deters start-ups from entering the market.
There are as many as 13 layers of vendors that must be paid before the hospital even gets its hands on the implant device. Running at $4,500 to $7500 for a hip implant cost to the hospitals who then raise that cost up substantially prior to installation.{MD Buying and Orthopedic Network News}
Joe Catugno billed $100,000, at the Hospital for Joint Diseases of N.Y., of which his insurer Cigna paid approximately $70,000 remainder for Joe to pay. Mills-Pensinsula Health Services in San Mateo Calif. Billed Susan Foley $112,317 of which $26,000 remained for Susan to pay. Sonja Nelson’s hip replacement at Sacred Heart Hospital in Pensacola Fl. Accounted for $30,581 of her billed total charge of $50,935. Insurers to negotiate limited responsibility for the differences.
Competition and large increase in demand for these services has Not lowered the prices. On the contrary they have risen.
Now we can only speculate how much Obamacare will suppress these cartel driven prices? How much will the catering charges cost, for the Feds catering to the states that require, due to the austerity ideologues of the republicans obstructions to Obamacare.






Yeah

Mililani, HI

#986916 Sep 21, 2013
shinningelectr0n wrote:
<quoted text>
You eat sh it and tell me it's chocolate.
OK. I believe you. Eat hardy, Dood.
lol! Actually, you do son along with your crow.

You're just not intelligent enough to know it!
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#986917 Sep 21, 2013
Adam 36 wrote:
<quoted text>
Those currently getting free care will never pay based on their Obamacare subsidies.
Now tell us what the middle class deductibles will be?
Galt does not want to get into another discussion of what "middle class" means (values versus income), but very few people who are truly " middle class" lack insurance at present and very few will be part of the exchanges.

ObamaKKKare subsidies are just another welfare program, but a HUGE program.

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#986918 Sep 21, 2013
why does medical care cost more than it did 20 years ago...

Medicine and crappy ethics...

"Three Executives of South Florida Psychiatric Hospital Sentenced in $67 Million Health Care Fraud Scheme"

http://www.fbi.gov/miami/press-releases/2013/...

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