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Waxman

United States

#984846 Sep 17, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
WOOF!
How Neo-Nazis and Gangs Infiltrated the U.S. Military
Did the Bush administrationís desperate need to build up the military for the Iraq War lead recruiters to turn a blind eye toward supremacists and gangs?
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/12...
Baawaaahhh!!!!!

Good going FIDO!
Waxman

United States

#984847 Sep 17, 2013
Putin won, Stooge lost

“For God & Country”

Since: Aug 13

The Promised Land Illinois

#984848 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> It has nothing to do with Syria, dumbass.
He is a weak Leader not respected.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#984849 Sep 17, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
If you believe MediaMatters, you're stupid. Even the Obama media, NBC, reported that there was a cable failure.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/09/11/20...
City of Detroit Chief Compliance Officer, Gary Brown smiled as he talked to Wiley about the "intentional outages" on camera. Play the video to see the exchange:

Wiley: Did any of the customers get any notice that the power would be cut?

Brown: We did start calling our customers prior to taking them down and asking them to turn off air conditioners, but they weren't responding as fast as we would like them to so we had to send them a strong message by turning the power off.

The 'message' has Judge Craig Strong fuming. Strong works at the Frank Murphy Hall of Justice, which was shut down on Monday after a prisoner knifed a Wayne County Sheriff's deputy to escape. The event started a man hunt that left many people in the downtown area stressed. Strong says,"We're in a building that's already on high alert after what happened on Monday, we don't need any more mistakes. If they we're going to do this they should have given us notice so we could plan around it."

http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/story/23415960/wh...

see what happens when you use NBC as a source?

“For God & Country”

Since: Aug 13

The Promised Land Illinois

#984850 Sep 17, 2013
Waxman wrote:
Don't worry Dumb Dave. Obama is fixing everything...
AP
A Rhode Island officer reported Navy Yard shooter Aaron Alexis to naval station police last month after Alexis told cops he was 'hearing voices' through a wall and three people were following him
We canít help people like that because they have a right to be crazy and yell at you on the corner. How dare we help someone who needs it. Oh but we can help people who donít need it Ah Liberalism at its best.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#984851 Sep 17, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Well since 99.9% of Detroit is black--I give up.
try again.

Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#984853 Sep 17, 2013
flack wrote:
A leaked copy of a UN report on global warming says that scientistís claims that global warming was going to destroy us were drastically wrong.
(See also: Democrats Trying To Outlaw Gas-Powered Cars By 2040)
The Daily Mail reports that in 2007 the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) claimed that the planetís temperature was going to rise 0.2 Celsius every decade, a claim that governments and scientists all across the world have relied on to make their own determinations.
But now the new report says that the climate only warmed at .12 C per decades since 1951, a rate far, far below what everyone was told.
The new report also notes that scientists had to admit that their forecasts were wildly out of sync with the truth.
Yep,include the 50's & 60''s where the temp only went up 01 C each decade to dilute the rate..

http://www.currentresults.com/Environment-Fac...

My God Flack. Get a fricken grip.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#984854 Sep 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Family physicians? Bah, poor people don't have family physicians. Well, they will now thanks to healthcare reform.
"homo"
Why do you have to BS with your every post. We have had the same family doctor and his successor for more than 35 years. My daughter also uses the same doctor. While this doctor no longer accepts new medicare/medicade patients he has people who require that assistance, folks who have been his patients for years. Because of nobama care he is not accepting any new patients who depend on medicare/medicade to cover the costs.
Peace
KMA
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#984855 Sep 17, 2013
Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Baawaaahhh!!!!!
Good going FIDO!
WOOF WOOF!

Are Gang Members Using Military Training?

CBS News has learned that military police have briefed local authorities in major cities, including New York, about the rising danger that gang members in the military could share their skills with gangs on the streets. That could include combat, logistics, and even emergency medical skills.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-3108597...

If Bush had a son......

Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#984857 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep,include the 50's & 60''s where the temp only went up 01 C each decade to dilute the rate..
http://www.currentresults.com/Environment-Fac...
My God Flack. Get a fricken grip.
that was .01 each decade
Waxman

Falls Church, VA

#984858 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep,include the 50's & 60''s where the temp only went up 01 C each decade to dilute the rate..
http://www.currentresults.com/Environment-Fac...
My God Flack. Get a fricken grip.
Wow!

Dumb Dave actually made a post where he "tried" to provide substantiation for his ridiculous remark!

A Milestone for Dumb Dave indeed!

Problem is, bogus, discounted data, Dumb Dave.

Try to keep up, old senile dude.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#984859 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Antarctic ice is reducing. You've been duped yet again. http://www.skepticalscience.com/antarctica-ga...
Arctic ice http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
How many years since 1997 have been among the top warmest.
And from those lying bastards at NASA: http://climate.nasa.gov/
Update: The gross divergence in October data reported below between the various metrics is explained by an error, as reported at the bottom. The basic premise of the post, that real scientific work should go into challenging these measurement approaches and choosing the best data set, remains.

The October global temperature data highlights for me that it is time for scientists to quit wasting time screwing around with questions of whether global warming will cause more kidney stones, and address an absolutely fundamental question: Just what is the freaking temperature?

Currently we are approaching the prospect of spending hundreds of billions of dollars, or more, to combat global warming, and we don't even know its magnitude or real trend, because the major temperature indices we possess are giving very different readings. To oversimplify a bit, there are two competing methodologies that are giving two different answers. NASA's GISS uses a melding of surface thermometer readings around the world to create a global temperature anomaly. And the UAH uses satellites to measure temperatures of the lower or near-surface troposhere. Each thinks it has the better methodology (with, oddly, NASA fighting against the space technology). But they are giving us different answers.

For October, the GISS metric is showing the hottest October on record, nearly 0.8C hotter than it was 40 years ago in 1978 (from here).

GISSglobal

However, the satellites are showing no such thing, showing a much cooler October, and a far smaller warming trend over the last 40 years (from here)

Uah_october_20081

So which is right? Well, the situation is not helped by the fact that the GISS metric is run by James Hansen, considered by skeptics to be a leading alarmist, and the UAH is run by John Christy, considered by alarmists to be an arch-skeptic. The media generally uses the GISS data, so expect stories in the next day or so trumpeting "Hottest October Ever," which the Obama administration will wave around as justification for massive economic interventions. But by satellite it will only be the 10th or so hottest in the last 30, and probably cooler than most other readings this century.

It is really a very frustrating situation. It is as if two groups in the 17th century had two very different sets of observations of planetary motions that resulted in two different theories of gravity,

Its amazing to me the scientific community doesn't try to take this on. If the NOAA wanted to do something useful other than just creating disaster pr0n, it could actually have a conference on the topic and even some critical reviews of each approach. Why not have Christy and Hansen take turns in front of the group and defend their approaches like a doctoral thesis? Nothing can replace surface temperature measurement before 1978, because we do not have satellite data before then. But even so, discussion of earlier periods is important given issues with NOAA and GISS manual adjustments to the data.

Though I favor the UAH satellite data (and prefer a UAH - Hadley CRUT3 splice for a longer time history), I'll try to present as neutrally as possible the pros and cons of each approach.

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#984860 Sep 17, 2013
Eman wrote:
<quoted text>
Sunday night. Yes it was.
"Eman"
You did not like the fanny kicking the hawks gave the niners? I loved it. Hoping for the same result on the return meeting. Could be a lu lu. Both teams will be in the playoffs, I would not be surprized if one of the wins the whole enchalada.
Peace
Waxman

Falls Church, VA

#984861 Sep 17, 2013
Het old senile dude...

Harris: New report counters climate change scare

http://www.calgaryherald.com/opinion/columnis...

Try to keep up, or get off the bus, retard.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#984863 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Yep,include the 50's & 60''s where the temp only went up 01 C each decade to dilute the rate..
http://www.currentresults.com/Environment-Fac...
My God Flack. Get a fricken grip.
Just as a quick example, let's say the urban heat island effect in a city can be up to 10 degrees F. And, let's say by some miracle you came up with a reliable approach to correct for 95% of this effect (and believe me, no one has an approach this good). This means that there would still be a 0.5F warming bias or error from the UHI effect, an amount roughly of the order of magnitude of the underlying warming signal we are trying to detect (or falsify).

When my son and I ran a couple of transects of the Phoenix area around 10PM one winter evening, we found the city center to be 7 to 10 degrees F warmer than the outlying rural areas. Anthony Watts did a similar experiment this week in Reno (the similarity is not surprising, since he suggested the experiment to me in the first place). He too found about a 10 degree F variation. This experiment was a follow-on to this very complete post showing the range of issues with surface temperature measurement, via one example in Reno.

By the way, in the latter article he had this interesting chart with the potential upward bias added by an instrumentation switch at many weather stations

HO63toHO83

This kind of thing happens in the instrumentation world, and is why numbers have to be adjusted from the raw data (though these adjustments, even if done well, add error, as described above). What has many skeptics scratching their heads is that despite this upward bias in the instrumentation switch, and the upward bias from many measurement points being near growing urban areas, the GISS and NOAA actually have an increasingly positive adjustment factor for the last couple of decades, not a negative one (net of red, yellow, and purple lines here). In other words, the GISS and NOAA adjustment factors imply that there is a net growing cooling bias in the surface temperature record in the last couple of decades that needs to be corrected. This makes little sense to anyone whose main interest is not pumping up the official numbers to try to validate past catastrophic forecasts.

Update: The NOAA's adjustment numbers imply a net cooling bias in station locations, but they do have a UHI correction component. That number is about 0.05C, or 0.03F. This implies the average urban heat island effect on measurement points over the last 50 years is less than 1/300th of the UHI effect we measured in Reno and Phoenix. This seems really low, especially once one is familiar with the "body of work" of NOAA measurement stations as surveyed at Anthony's site.
Waxman

Falls Church, VA

#984864 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> that was .01 each decade
Oh sure...

Did Bush "abandon" Afghanistan too, Moonbat?

Baawaaahhhh!!!!

Good night - time for a movie - go pass out now, old dummy.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#984865 Sep 17, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text> Another f*cking idiot that does not know the history of phones for poor people.
It's the culture...

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#984867 Sep 17, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> The government will pay for it. That has been the plan all along.
"flack"
The government will pay for it? Get real. You, me and the other Americans who work and produce will be paying for the lazy, those with their hands out.
Peace
KMA

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#984868 Sep 17, 2013
For October, the GISS metric is showing the hottest October on record, nearly 0.8C hotter than it was 40 years ago in 1978 (from here).

GISSglobal

However, the satellites are showing no such thing, showing a much cooler October, and a far smaller warming trend over the last 40 years (from here)

Uah_october_20081

So which is right? Well, the situation is not helped by the fact that the GISS metric is run by James Hansen, considered by skeptics to be a leading alarmist, and the UAH is run by John Christy, considered by alarmists to be an arch-skeptic. The media generally uses the GISS data, so expect stories in the next day or so trumpeting "Hottest October Ever," which the Obama administration will wave around as justification for massive economic interventions. But by satellite it will only be the 10th or so hottest in the last 30, and probably cooler than most other readings this century.

It is really a very frustrating situation. It is as if two groups in the 17th century had two very different sets of observations of planetary motions that resulted in two different theories of gravity,

Its amazing to me the scientific community doesn't try to take this on. If the NOAA wanted to do something useful other than just creating disaster pr0n, it could actually have a conference on the topic and even some critical reviews of each approach. Why not have Christy and Hansen take turns in front of the group and defend their approaches like a doctoral thesis? Nothing can replace surface temperature measurement before 1978, because we do not have satellite data before then. But even so, discussion of earlier periods is important given issues with NOAA and GISS manual adjustments to the data.

Though I favor the UAH satellite data (and prefer a UAH - Hadley CRUT3 splice for a longer time history), I'll try to present as neutrally as possible the pros and cons of each approach.
Frank

Spokane, WA

#984869 Sep 17, 2013
mdbuilder wrote:
OBAMA RATED 5TH BEST PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY
From a total of 44 US Presidents: Obama rated 5th best president ever.
The Democratic publicity release said,"...after a little more than 5 years, Americans have rated President Obama the 5th best president ever."
The details according to White House Publicists:
Reagan & Lincoln tied for first,
23 presidents tied for second,
17 other presidents tied for third,
Jimmy Carter came in 4th, and
Obama came in fifth
Very good logic from the Democrats.

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