Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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So, what Flack is saying that Bush really lost 900,000 jobs in January of 2009.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Flack, when the f*ck will you fricken morons learn that "better" is not the same as great.
Obama has made the economy better. No one said it was where it needed to be.
No I'm not saying that. Learn to read. The economy would be this bad or better if Obama had done absolutely NOTHING! Once all the deadwood was cut the job market stabilized. It would have done so if Mickey Mouse was elected. Obama had nothing to do with it except cause the layoffs in the first place. Obama hasn't done jack squat but screw the economy up even worse.

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Another example from the are-you-fucking-kidding-me-the -Three-Stooges-are-running-our -government file:

The Democrats' version of government mandates movie theaters make changes to ensure the blind can watch movies.
No. This is not from the script for a new Mel Brooks movie. This is actually our government.
Naturally, more money will grow in trees to give to Hollywood to comply with this routinely ludicrous mandate from our government.

It is un-American to put such incompetent imbeciles in charge of our government.

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RealDave wrote:
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So, what Flack is saying that Bush really lost 900,000 jobs in January of 2009.
Thanks for pointing that out.
Flack, when the f*ck will you fricken morons learn that "better" is not the same as great.
Obama has made the economy better. No one said it was where it needed to be.
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For better or worse, a truism of American politics is that voters vote their pocketbooks. Yet according to a new report on median household incomes by Sentier Research, in 2012 millions of American voters apparently cast ballots contrary to their economic self-interest.

Each month the consultants at Sentier analyze the numbers from the Census Bureau's Current Population Survey and estimate the trend in median annual household income adjusted for inflation. On Aug. 21, Sentier released "Household Income on the Fourth Anniversary of the Economic Recovery: June 2009 to June 2013." The finding that grabbed headlines was that real median household income "has fallen by 4.4 percent since the 'economic recovery' began in June 2009." In dollar terms, median household income fell to $52,098 from $54,478, a loss of $2,380.

What was largely overlooked, however, is that those who were most likely to vote for Barack Obama in 2012 were members of demographic groups most likely to have suffered the steepest income declines. Mr. Obama was re-elected with 51% of the vote. Five demographic groups were crucial to his victory: young voters, single women, those with only a high-school diploma or less, blacks and Hispanics. He cleaned up with 60% of the youth vote, 67% of single women, 93% of blacks, 71% of Hispanics, and 64% of those without a high-school diploma, according to exit polls.

According to the Sentier research, households headed by single women, with and without children present, saw their incomes fall by roughly 7%. Those under age 25 experienced an income decline of 9.6%. Black heads of households saw their income tumble by 10.9%, while Hispanic heads-of-households' income fell 4.5%, slightly more than the national average. The incomes of workers with a high-school diploma or less fell by about 8%(-6.9% for those with less than a high-school diploma and -9.3% for those with only a high-school diploma).
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Pres Obama also says there are Syrian rebels associated with al-Qaeda who "would have no compunction using (CW's) in Syria" or elsewhere.

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According to the Sentier research, households headed by single women, with and without children present, saw their incomes fall by roughly 7%. Those under age 25 experienced an income decline of 9.6%. Black heads of households saw their income tumble by 10.9%, while Hispanic heads-of-households' income fell 4.5%, slightly more than the national average. The incomes of workers with a high-school diploma or less fell by about 8%(-6.9% for those with less than a high-school diploma and -9.3% for those with only a high-school diploma).

To put that into dollar terms, in the four years between the time the Obama recovery began in June 2009 and June of this year, median black household income fell by just over $4,000, Hispanic households lost $2,000 and female-headed households lost $2,300.

The unemployment numbers show pretty much the same pattern. July's Bureau of Labor Statistics data (the most recent available) show a national unemployment rate of 7.4%. The highest jobless rates by far are for key components of the Obama voter bloc: blacks (12.6%), Hispanics (9.4%), those with less than a high-school diploma (11%) and teens (23.7%).

This is a stunning reversal of the progress for these groups during the expansions of the 1980s and 1990s, and even through the start of the 2008 recession. Census data reveal that from 1981-2008 the biggest income gains were for black women, 81%; followed by white women, 67%; followed by black men, 31%; and white males at 8%.

In other words, the gender and racial income gaps shrank by more than in any period in American history during the Reagan boom of the 1980s and the Clinton boom of the 1990s. Women and blacks continued to make economic progress during the mini-Bush expansion from 2002-07. "Income inequality" has been exacerbated during the Obama era.

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You see worse. The ones suffering the most are the ones who voted for him.
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NSA disguised itself as Google to spy, say reports

If a recently leaked document is any indication, the US National Security Agency -- or its UK counterpart -- appears to have put on a Google suit to gather intelligence.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-57602701-38...
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Obama, in an ABC interview airing now, is blaming ATMs again for the bad job market.

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flack wrote:
According to the Sentier research, households headed by single women, with and without children present, saw their incomes fall by roughly 7%. Those under age 25 experienced an income decline of 9.6%. Black heads of households saw their income tumble by 10.9%, while Hispanic heads-of-households' income fell 4.5%, slightly more than the national average. The incomes of workers with a high-school diploma or less fell by about 8%(-6.9% for those with less than a high-school diploma and -9.3% for those with only a high-school diploma).
To put that into dollar terms, in the four years between the time the Obama recovery began in June 2009 and June of this year, median black household income fell by just over $4,000, Hispanic households lost $2,000 and female-headed households lost $2,300.
The unemployment numbers show pretty much the same pattern. July's Bureau of Labor Statistics data (the most recent available) show a national unemployment rate of 7.4%. The highest jobless rates by far are for key components of the Obama voter bloc: blacks (12.6%), Hispanics (9.4%), those with less than a high-school diploma (11%) and teens (23.7%).
This is a stunning reversal of the progress for these groups during the expansions of the 1980s and 1990s, and even through the start of the 2008 recession. Census data reveal that from 1981-2008 the biggest income gains were for black women, 81%; followed by white women, 67%; followed by black men, 31%; and white males at 8%.
In other words, the gender and racial income gaps shrank by more than in any period in American history during the Reagan boom of the 1980s and the Clinton boom of the 1990s. Women and blacks continued to make economic progress during the mini-Bush expansion from 2002-07. "Income inequality" has been exacerbated during the Obama era.
actually, from everything I've read, real earnings of the middle class and poor have been shrinking since the 80's

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/i...

http://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221425582/tired...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/us-income-i...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/inco...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/ineq...

http://www.reuters.com/subjects/income-inequa...

http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/201...

The income gap between the richest 1 percent and the rest of America widened to a record last year.

The top 1 percent of U.S. earners collected 19.3 percent of household income in 2012, their largest share in Internal Revenue Service figures going back a century.

U.S. income inequality has been growing for almost three decades. But until last year, the top 1 percent's share of pre-tax income had not yet surpassed the 18.7 percent it reached in 1927, according to an analysis of IRS figures dating to 1913 by economists at the University of California, Berkeley, the Paris School of Economics and Oxford University.

One of them, Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley, said the incomes of the richest Americans might have surged last year in part because they cashed in stock holdings to avoid higher capital gains taxes that took effect in January.

Last year, the incomes of the top 1 percent rose 19.6 percent compared with a 1 percent increase for the remaining 99 percent.

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actually, from everything I've read, real earnings of the middle class and poor have been shrinking since the 80's
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/i...
http://www.npr.org/2013/09/12/221425582/tired...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/us-income-i...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/15/inco...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/12/ineq...
http://www.reuters.com/subjects/income-inequa...
http://www.oregonlive.com/today/index.ssf/201...
The income gap between the richest 1 percent and the rest of America widened to a record last year.
The top 1 percent of U.S. earners collected 19.3 percent of household income in 2012, their largest share in Internal Revenue Service figures going back a century.
U.S. income inequality has been growing for almost three decades. But until last year, the top 1 percent's share of pre-tax income had not yet surpassed the 18.7 percent it reached in 1927, according to an analysis of IRS figures dating to 1913 by economists at the University of California, Berkeley, the Paris School of Economics and Oxford University.
One of them, Emmanuel Saez of the University of California, Berkeley, said the incomes of the richest Americans might have surged last year in part because they cashed in stock holdings to avoid higher capital gains taxes that took effect in January.
Last year, the incomes of the top 1 percent rose 19.6 percent compared with a 1 percent increase for the remaining 99 percent.
That isn't what he was talking about. God when are you libtards going to learn to read. Oh and I just love how you all change the question before you answer so as to put your spin on it.
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<quoted text> Oh and I just love how you all change the question before you answer so as to put your spin on it.
Yep, a common tactic.

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<quoted text> That isn't what he was talking about. God when are you libtards going to learn to read. Oh and I just love how you all change the question before you answer so as to put your spin on it.
1. my post was a reply to your post, so it should be "That isn't what "I" was talking about"

2. I was pointing out that since blacks and women are part of the middle class and poor, for their incomes to have been going up since the 80's and during the Bush administration doesn't make sense, as those two groups have seen their income and wealth go down.

here's part of your post
"This is a stunning reversal of the progress for these groups during the expansions of the 1980s and 1990s, and even through the start of the 2008 recession. Census data reveal that from 1981-2008 the biggest income gains were for black women, 81%; followed by white women, 67%; followed by black men, 31%; and white males at 8%.

In other words, the gender and racial income gaps shrank by more than in any period in American history during the Reagan boom of the 1980s and the Clinton boom of the 1990s. Women and blacks continued to make economic progress during the mini-Bush expansion from 2002-07. "Income inequality" has been exacerbated during the Obama era. "

Just provided evidence that your conclusion is false.
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This is a stunning reversal of the progress for these groups during the expansions of the 1980s and 1990s, and even through the start of the 2008 recession. Census data reveal that from 1981-2008 the biggest income gains were for black women, 81%; followed by white women, 67%; followed by black men, 31%; and white males at 8%.
This is a very interesting stat
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1. my post was a reply to your post, so it should be "That isn't what "I" was talking about"
2. I was pointing out that since blacks and women are part of the middle class and poor, for their incomes to have been going up since the 80's and during the Bush administration doesn't make sense, as those two groups have seen their income and wealth go down.
here's part of your post
"This is a stunning reversal of the progress for these groups during the expansions of the 1980s and 1990s, and even through the start of the 2008 recession. Census data reveal that from 1981-2008 the biggest income gains were for black women, 81%; followed by white women, 67%; followed by black men, 31%; and white males at 8%.
In other words, the gender and racial income gaps shrank by more than in any period in American history during the Reagan boom of the 1980s and the Clinton boom of the 1990s. Women and blacks continued to make economic progress during the mini-Bush expansion from 2002-07. "Income inequality" has been exacerbated during the Obama era. "
Just provided evidence that your conclusion is false.
Why should he be demanded to prove his conclusion is false; that would be you job as opposition.

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According to the Sentier research, households headed by single women, with and without children present, saw their incomes fall by roughly 7%. Those under age 25 experienced an income decline of 9.6%. Black heads of households saw their income tumble by 10.9%, while Hispanic heads-of-households' income fell 4.5%, slightly more than the national average. The incomes of workers with a high-school diploma or less fell by about 8%(-6.9% for those with less than a high-school diploma and -9.3% for those with only a high-school diploma).

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One small benefit from Obama's presidency - no one will ever have to wonder what kind of a president a black Democrat would make.
Concur...One small benefit but one giant leap for mankind of any color but democrat.
Obama's color is Islam. His race is irrelevant
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1. my post was a reply to your post, so it should be "That isn't what "I" was talking about"

Folks, if you are changing the topic, the original poster has the right to challenge you for obfuscating the issue.

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Why should he be demanded to prove his conclusion is false; that would be you job as opposition.
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According to the Sentier research, households headed by single women, with and without children present, saw their incomes fall by roughly 7%. Those under age 25 experienced an income decline of 9.6%. Black heads of households saw their income tumble by 10.9%, while Hispanic heads-of-households' income fell 4.5%, slightly more than the national average. The incomes of workers with a high-school diploma or less fell by about 8%(-6.9% for those with less than a high-school diploma and -9.3% for those with only a high-school diploma).
geesh, you are a little slow on the uptake there. I never asked him to provide evidence that his conclusion was false.

I PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE, IN NUMEROUS LINKS ABOUT THE STATE OF INCOME AND WEALTH INEQUALITY IN THE U.S.

All those studies revealed that the income and wealth of the middle class and poor have decreased since 1980. Ergo, it would be pretty difficult for the income and wealth of blacks and women to have increased since the 80's and under George W Bush only to decline since President Obama took office.

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TheIndependentMajority wrote:
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Did you miss that blurb about places like Sea World, cutting staff/hours, due to Obirdcarelinerworthybillagecar e?
Posted September 11, 2013 at 1:27 PM
Sea World parks released a statement that was reported by the ORLANDO SENTINEL newspaper that confirms that their part time employee work force of about 18,000 will soon have their hours cut. Currently, their part time workers top off at 32 hours scheduled a week. The new cut off will be 28 hours in order to not comply with the offering of healthcare benefits which the Affordable Care Law, or Obamacare as it is known in the vernacular, requires as of this October 1st.
Its sad to see these theme park employees (of the parks' total 22k employees, 18K are part time or seasonal)get this treatment. I remember when I was younger and worked part time a 4 hour cut in hours really could sting...I can't imagine how badly it would be for an unskilled worker with two part time jobs and a couple of kids.
Catlett, J., "Part Time Sea World Employees". ThemeParkInsider. 9/11/2013.
Not toooo gooDuh there Duh A Vey, when rather LARGE employers start jumping the sinking ship.
OMG OMG OMG cut 4 hours a week. The cheapsass b*astard were already using PT help to avoid paying certain benefits.
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Hillary won't have to worry, she can blame the republican congress for saying NO to everything including events like Syria and at the same time expecting to say NO to Putin as well. In their world its all about the NO's , no progress, no growth, no taxes, no global warming, no brains.
Hillary will need to defend the failures of Obama, including Benghazi, if she runs...which she will not...

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1. my post was a reply to your post, so it should be "That isn't what "I" was talking about"
Folks, if you are changing the topic, the original poster has the right to challenge you for obfuscating the issue.
folks if you lack reading and comprehension skills, maybe you shouldn't be posting...it just confirms what everyone knows,

the subject was income gains of blacks and women since the 80's as compared to under President Obama.

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