Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Nice try at smoke and mirrors.
You were the one claiming the Muslim Brotherhood and the Church of the Christ was the same than failed to provide any evidence that the latter engaged in any terrorist activity.
I never made any claims about the Church of Christ!!!!

Dude, cut down on the drugs, you're reading things that aren't there
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<quoted text>lol! Still waiting for your dow's son.
Unless you made a stupid statement.
LOL Wrong poster

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Obama's numbers shows the recovery since June 2009 has been dismal.
We were losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush 43 left office in 2009 and Obama was inaugurated. Since then, we've enjoyed over 48 consecutive months of job creation and still counting averaging 150,000 new jobs a month.(Just for starters)
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The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation, while the Iraq use of force resolution was based on lies and doctored intelligence. Ironic that you would pick those two.
Your opinions about the war does not change the fact that there was war declarations.
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I never made any claims about the Church of Christ!!!!
Dude, cut down on the drugs, you're reading things that aren't there
Yeah, you wish I was using drugs so I would forget your dumb analogy where you stated the Muslim Brotherhood was like the Church of Christ.
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Yeah is being LAME
His illogical stance is without providing to the idiot every War Declaration for every war started by the Dems since WW I then there was no war or something.
lol! Not every war son....

... just the ones you listed.

I call you a liar and you let it pass.

But that's fine. At least we know where you stand.
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Your opinions about the war does not change the fact that there was war declarations.
?????????? How odd you can't provide them then but only claim of their existence.

Seems Obama's BC carries a lot more weight than reich winger words.
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Had to re-post Yeah's very good post on Muslim Brotherhood as it fits into the current discussion

"UAE leads Gulf front against Egypt's Islamists
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Sep 14, 2:18 AM (ET)
By BRIAN MURPHY
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP)- More than six months ago, Dr. Mahmoud al-Jaidah was asked to step out of line as he transited through Dubai en route home to Qatar. He has been held ever since, allowed to visit his family once a month after a blindfolded trip from an undisclosed detention facility.
UAE authorities have given no public statements on the case. But the family of the 52-year-old doctor has no doubt why he was detained: He has been caught up in the escalating pressures across the Western-backed Gulf states against the now-battered Muslim Brotherhood and its perceived Islamist allies.
The crackdowns in the Gulf began more than a year before the Muslim Brotherhood's political collapse in Egypt this July, but now they take on wider regional implications, meshing with the campaign of arrests by Cairo's new military-protected leadership against the Brotherhood.
The Egyptian military's ouster of President Mohammed Morsi on July 3 further emboldened the UAE and other Gulf states to step up arrests of suspected Brotherhood supporters, whom they see as a threat to the Gulf's tightly run fraternity of monarchs, sheiks and emirs.
And in turn, several Gulf countries have stepped up as critical sources of cash for Egypt's new military-backed leadership as it cracks down on Morsi's Brotherhood. The UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have promised Cairo $12 billion in aid. Several thousand Brotherhood members and other Islamists have been arrested in Egypt since Morsi's fall.
"The Gulf states and Egypt are now bonded together in the belief of the Muslim Brotherhood as their common enemy," said Christopher Davidson, an expert in Gulf affairs at Britain's Durham University. "This is a powerful alliance."
The Gulf's rulers have long considered the Brotherhood as a danger. In Saudi Arabia, for example, the Brotherhood's version of political Islam is seen as a challenge to the country's monarchy backed by the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. The group is also seen as part of the wave of Arab Spring upheavals, which so far Gulf rulers have ridden out, though not without clampdowns on social media and other tools of budding political opposition.
Now, Gulf officials have become fearful of anything that could serve as potential footholds for the Brotherhood. In rhetoric at least, the group has begun to replace Iran as the most worrisome threat in the eye of many officials. The exception is Qatar, which has cultivated the Brotherhood regionwide and strongly backed Morsi.....

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Are you happy that Assad will not have to face War Crime chargers?
There is that knee-jerk reaction before thinking it through in action.
why should we care, we are not the police of the world. There are plenty of foreign dictators over the history of the U.S. that have not have to answer for their crimes. Many of those dictators we put in power.

SO WHY ALL THE FRIGGIN CONCERN NOW?????

What about all the brutal dictators President Bush let escape war crime charges???

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Yeah, you wish I was using drugs so I would forget your dumb analogy where you stated the Muslim Brotherhood was like the Church of Christ.
show me exactly where I made that statement......its just another figment of your imagination or drug induced

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Your opinions about the war does not change the fact that there was war declarations.
actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.

It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.

There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
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Are you happy that Assad will not have to face War Crime chargers?
There is that knee-jerk reaction before thinking it through in action.
WTH are you talking about now son? Are you off your drugs again?
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Had to re-post Yeah's very good post on Muslim Brotherhood as it fits into the current discussion
"UAE leads Gulf front against Egypt's Islamists
Email this Story
Sep 14, 2:18 AM (ET)
By BRIAN MURPHY
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP)- More than six months ago, Dr. Mahmoud al-Jaidah was asked to step out of line as he transited through Dubai en route home to Qatar. He has been held ever since, allowed to visit his family once a month after a blindfolded trip from an undisclosed detention facility.
UAE authorities have given no public statements on the case. But the family of the 52-year-old doctor has no doubt why he was detained: He has been caught up in the escalating pressures across the Western-backed Gulf states against the now-battered Muslim Brotherhood and its perceived Islamist allies.
The crackdowns in the Gulf began more than a year before the Muslim Brotherhood's political collapse in Egypt this July, but now they take on wider regional implications, meshing with the campaign of arrests by Cairo's new military-protected leadership against the Brotherhood.
The Egyptian military's ouster of President Mohammed Morsi on July 3 further emboldened the UAE and other Gulf states to step up arrests of suspected Brotherhood supporters, whom they see as a threat to the Gulf's tightly run fraternity of monarchs, sheiks and emirs.
And in turn, several Gulf countries have stepped up as critical sources of cash for Egypt's new military-backed leadership as it cracks down on Morsi's Brotherhood. The UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have promised Cairo $12 billion in aid. Several thousand Brotherhood members and other Islamists have been arrested in Egypt since Morsi's fall.
"The Gulf states and Egypt are now bonded together in the belief of the Muslim Brotherhood as their common enemy," said Christopher Davidson, an expert in Gulf affairs at Britain's Durham University. "This is a powerful alliance."
The Gulf's rulers have long considered the Brotherhood as a danger. In Saudi Arabia, for example, the Brotherhood's version of political Islam is seen as a challenge to the country's monarchy backed by the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. The group is also seen as part of the wave of Arab Spring upheavals, which so far Gulf rulers have ridden out, though not without clampdowns on social media and other tools of budding political opposition.
Now, Gulf officials have become fearful of anything that could serve as potential footholds for the Brotherhood. In rhetoric at least, the group has begun to replace Iran as the most worrisome threat in the eye of many officials. The exception is Qatar, which has cultivated the Brotherhood regionwide and strongly backed Morsi.....
Sure son! Post it as many times as you want!
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why should we care, we are not the police of the world. There are plenty of foreign dictators over the history of the U.S. that have not have to answer for their crimes. Many of those dictators we put in power.
SO WHY ALL THE FRIGGIN CONCERN NOW?????
What about all the brutal dictators President Bush let escape war crime charges???
lol!

Because they're not running the show!
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show me exactly where I made that statement......its just another figment of your imagination or drug induced
What is drug induced is denying a post I, Galt and several other posters commented on.
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actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.
It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.
There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Oooooo!!!! Now why do you have to go and get legal and all????
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actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.
It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.
There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Tell us the logic that claims a use of military force is different from war?
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why should we care, we are not the police of the world. There are plenty of foreign dictators over the history of the U.S. that have not have to answer for their crimes. Many of those dictators we put in power.
SO WHY ALL THE FRIGGIN CONCERN NOW?????
What about all the brutal dictators President Bush let escape war crime charges???
You just went against what Obama said trying to defend him.
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I never made any claims about the Church of Christ!!!!
Dude, cut down on the drugs, you're reading things that aren't there
That fkn mutt somehow believes that "fundamentalist" Muslims are somehow different than "fundamentalist" Christians.

LMAO

Like that end times illiterate who posts that Revelations nonsense here__they shouldn't allow Church of Christ members to own weapons of any kind or get within 500 feet of children.
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What is drug induced is denying a post I, Galt and several other posters commented on.
You are correct it was Realtime who made the idiotic comment.

My apologies.

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