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John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983102 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
The Gulf of Tonkin was a false flag operation, while the Iraq use of force resolution was based on lies and doctored intelligence. Ironic that you would pick those two.
Not the point; both were declarations of war.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983103 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you happy that Assad will not have to face War Crime chargers?
There is that knee-jerk reaction before thinking it through in action.
nor any punishment for alleged use of chemical weapons...

and "international" means Russia...
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983104 Sep 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Wait long enough....
... that'll change to all religions against secular people.
So tell me when did the Church of Christ involve itself in terrorist activity as the Muslim Brotherhood has.

Realtime is trying to lump terrorist with churches.

We get it she/he hates religion but the analogy is totally stupid.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983105 Sep 14, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> We were losing 800,000 jobs a month when Bush 43 left office in 2009 and Obama was inaugurated. Since then, we've enjoyed over 48 consecutive months of job creation and still counting averaging 150,000 new jobs a month.(Just for starters)
...and yet, unemployment remains high and good jobs are not available, the "statistics" not being borne out in reality...

heap big cooking of books...
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983106 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, you would be confused.
lol! And you still can't find that part in the Constitution, eh?

No wonder you're even more confused son.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983107 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the one claiming something, but you keep running around with the goal posts.
lol! Oh no son. I'm not claiming the likes of Korea and Vietnam were wars son.

That's all on you.

And I'm still waiting for you to back that up.

Instead, you keep trying to slither out from under your claim.

I wonder why?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983109 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.
It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.
There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Congress has the power to declare war, but no Constitutional power to "authorize use of force"...
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983110 Sep 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Not the point; both were declarations of war.
??????????

You must be from another country son.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983111 Sep 14, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"John Galt"
You are for the murder by abortion of innocents? Or do you only support abortion if the victim is black?
Peace
KMA
Galt opposes abortion on moral grounds, but believes that fools have a right to be immoral. Any person of any race who chooses to murder their own child must find a way to live with themselves. Suicide might be appropriate.
wow

Feasterville Trevose, PA

#983112 Sep 14, 2013
Wow
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983113 Sep 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! And you still can't find that part in the Constitution, eh?
No wonder you're even more confused son.
I talked to you this morning because you were making some reasonable connections, now that you are back to acting like a clown-I am going to ignore you.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983114 Sep 14, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"John Galt"
You are for the murder by abortion of innocents? Or do you only support abortion if the victim is black?
Peace
KMA
To answer your question more fully, Eed, the word "murder" in relation to abortion requires a religious belief that life begins at conception, a belief supported by Roman Catholics and fundamentalist Christians. Most other reasonable people believe that life begins when the fetus is viable outside the womb.

DemoKKKrats believe that executing a child at the moment of birth is acceptable, and would allow abortion up to age 18 if they had their choice. Bottom line of their position is that whatever the mother wants rules and that the father and the child have no rights. Selfish pigs.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983115 Sep 14, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Congress has the power to declare war, but no Constitutional power to "authorize use of force"...
Karma and Yeah this is for you -

Definition of war is a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.

An authorization for use of military force is a euphemism for war.

No constitutional scholar, that I am aware of, has ever claimed that a POTUS went illegally to war using "authorization for use of force..."
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#983116 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
So tell me when did the Church of Christ involve itself in terrorist activity as the Muslim Brotherhood has.
Realtime is trying to lump terrorist with churches.
We get it she/he hates religion but the analogy is totally stupid.
Listen up dummy__Islam is a religion* as is Christianity.

The COC is someones idea of an improvement to what was written in the New Testament (KJV). Kinda like the KJV on steroids__hey boys, lets start at the back, scare the fk out of everyone and work towards the front where the Catholics and Lutherans hang out.

Same Same with the Muslim Brotherhood and other so called schemes to improve Islam.

* sometimes regarded as a way of life or instructions for life depending upon ones IQ.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983117 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Listen up dummy__Islam is a religion* as is Christianity.
The COC is someones idea of an improvement to what was written in the New Testament (KJV). Kinda like the KJV on steroids__hey boys, lets start at the back, scare the fk out of everyone and work towards the front where the Catholics and Lutherans hang out.
Same Same with the Muslim Brotherhood and other so called schemes to improve Islam.
* sometimes regarded as a way of life or instructions for life depending upon ones IQ.
So what? The Muslim Brotherhood is a terrorist group and you have yet to make such a connection to any Church-that is what you are missing.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#983119 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Listen up dummy__Islam is a religion* as is Christianity.
The COC is someones idea of an improvement to what was written in the New Testament (KJV). Kinda like the KJV on steroids__hey boys, lets start at the back, scare the fk out of everyone and work towards the front where the Catholics and Lutherans hang out.
Same Same with the Muslim Brotherhood and other so called schemes to improve Islam.
* sometimes regarded as a way of life or instructions for life depending upon ones IQ.
Islam is an international terrorist conspiracy, not a religion.
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#983120 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Christie is an exceptionally likeable (R) politician but in no way conservative enough for FOX-TEA and others.
Christie in the White House would be akin to reelecting DaBammy to a third term.
BTW__UCLA is putting an azz whoopin on the Cornhuskers and that's always a beautiful thing.
WRONG.

CHRISTIE/Paul/Uncle Joe et al 2016!

Solid American Economics and REAL leadership FOR America again-NOT against it!

The T.E.A Party!
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#983121 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Karma and Yeah this is for you -
Definition of war is a state of armed conflict between different nations or states or different groups within a nation or state.
An authorization for use of military force is a euphemism for war.
No constitutional scholar, that I am aware of, has ever claimed that a POTUS went illegally to war using "authorization for use of force..."
Have you ever had exceptional greek yogurt?
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#983122 Sep 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! Wait long enough....
... that'll change to all religions against secular people.
Naw...that's why the current pack of kiddies on the hill had to resort to race and class baiting (for LOSERS) for they campaign platforms.

"The 80's cawrled and they wants they fo'reen policy back".

(still CRINGING in embarrassment for MY generation on that ignopunk quip.)

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#983123 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Hit a nerve with whatever eh?
That scumbag will be sittin up near the preacher manana
You seem to have great difficulty with opposing arguments. Is Obama's embarrassing presidency starting to take its toll on your patience?

Myself, the poster "Whatever", and most rational people would agree that radical Islam has nothing in common with fundamental Christianity where terrorism and violence is concerned.

Where does the left stand regarding Islam's "war" on women?

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