Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1263898 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983068 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Yeah, you wish I was using drugs so I would forget your dumb analogy where you stated the Muslim Brotherhood was like the Church of Christ.
show me exactly where I made that statement......its just another figment of your imagination or drug induced

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983069 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Your opinions about the war does not change the fact that there was war declarations.
actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war

The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.

It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.

It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.

There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983070 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you happy that Assad will not have to face War Crime chargers?
There is that knee-jerk reaction before thinking it through in action.
WTH are you talking about now son? Are you off your drugs again?
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983071 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
Had to re-post Yeah's very good post on Muslim Brotherhood as it fits into the current discussion
"UAE leads Gulf front against Egypt's Islamists
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Sep 14, 2:18 AM (ET)
By BRIAN MURPHY
DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP)- More than six months ago, Dr. Mahmoud al-Jaidah was asked to step out of line as he transited through Dubai en route home to Qatar. He has been held ever since, allowed to visit his family once a month after a blindfolded trip from an undisclosed detention facility.
UAE authorities have given no public statements on the case. But the family of the 52-year-old doctor has no doubt why he was detained: He has been caught up in the escalating pressures across the Western-backed Gulf states against the now-battered Muslim Brotherhood and its perceived Islamist allies.
The crackdowns in the Gulf began more than a year before the Muslim Brotherhood's political collapse in Egypt this July, but now they take on wider regional implications, meshing with the campaign of arrests by Cairo's new military-protected leadership against the Brotherhood.
The Egyptian military's ouster of President Mohammed Morsi on July 3 further emboldened the UAE and other Gulf states to step up arrests of suspected Brotherhood supporters, whom they see as a threat to the Gulf's tightly run fraternity of monarchs, sheiks and emirs.
And in turn, several Gulf countries have stepped up as critical sources of cash for Egypt's new military-backed leadership as it cracks down on Morsi's Brotherhood. The UAE, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait have promised Cairo $12 billion in aid. Several thousand Brotherhood members and other Islamists have been arrested in Egypt since Morsi's fall.
"The Gulf states and Egypt are now bonded together in the belief of the Muslim Brotherhood as their common enemy," said Christopher Davidson, an expert in Gulf affairs at Britain's Durham University. "This is a powerful alliance."
The Gulf's rulers have long considered the Brotherhood as a danger. In Saudi Arabia, for example, the Brotherhood's version of political Islam is seen as a challenge to the country's monarchy backed by the strict Wahhabi interpretation of Islam. The group is also seen as part of the wave of Arab Spring upheavals, which so far Gulf rulers have ridden out, though not without clampdowns on social media and other tools of budding political opposition.
Now, Gulf officials have become fearful of anything that could serve as potential footholds for the Brotherhood. In rhetoric at least, the group has begun to replace Iran as the most worrisome threat in the eye of many officials. The exception is Qatar, which has cultivated the Brotherhood regionwide and strongly backed Morsi.....
Sure son! Post it as many times as you want!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983072 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
why should we care, we are not the police of the world. There are plenty of foreign dictators over the history of the U.S. that have not have to answer for their crimes. Many of those dictators we put in power.
SO WHY ALL THE FRIGGIN CONCERN NOW?????
What about all the brutal dictators President Bush let escape war crime charges???
lol!

Because they're not running the show!
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983073 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
show me exactly where I made that statement......its just another figment of your imagination or drug induced
What is drug induced is denying a post I, Galt and several other posters commented on.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983074 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.
It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.
There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Oooooo!!!! Now why do you have to go and get legal and all????
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983075 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
actually, I never made a comment about them being war declarations. However, I do believe that they were authorizations for the use of force and not declarations of war. they were specifically not declarations of war
The Gulf of Tonkin Resolution (officially, the Southeast Asia Resolution, Public Law 88-408) was a joint resolution that the United States Congress passed on August 7, 1964, in response to the Gulf of Tonkin Incident.
It is of historical significance because it gave U.S. President Lyndon B. Johnson authorization, without a formal declaration of war by Congress, for the use of "conventional'' military force in Southeast Asia. Specifically, the resolution authorized the President to do whatever necessary in order to assist "any member or protocol state of the Southeast Asia Collective Defense Treaty". This included involving armed forces.
It was opposed in the Senate only by Senators Wayne Morse (D-OR) and Ernest Gruening (D-AK). Senator Gruening objected to "sending our American boys into combat in a war in which we have no business, which is not our war, into which we have been misguidedly drawn, which is steadily being escalated".(Tonkin Gulf debate 1964) The Johnson administration subsequently relied upon the resolution to begin its rapid escalation of U.S. military involvement in South Vietnam and open warfare between North Vietnam and the United States.
There is a difference between a DECLARATION OF WAR AND a Resolution of the use of force.
Tell us the logic that claims a use of military force is different from war?
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983076 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
why should we care, we are not the police of the world. There are plenty of foreign dictators over the history of the U.S. that have not have to answer for their crimes. Many of those dictators we put in power.
SO WHY ALL THE FRIGGIN CONCERN NOW?????
What about all the brutal dictators President Bush let escape war crime charges???
You just went against what Obama said trying to defend him.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#983077 Sep 14, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
I never made any claims about the Church of Christ!!!!
Dude, cut down on the drugs, you're reading things that aren't there
That fkn mutt somehow believes that "fundamentalist" Muslims are somehow different than "fundamentalist" Christians.

LMAO

Like that end times illiterate who posts that Revelations nonsense here__they shouldn't allow Church of Christ members to own weapons of any kind or get within 500 feet of children.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983078 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
What is drug induced is denying a post I, Galt and several other posters commented on.
You are correct it was Realtime who made the idiotic comment.

My apologies.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#983079 Sep 14, 2013
WAKE UP MIDDLE CLASS wrote:
Homeless and Poor Live Better Than The Middle Class
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =iTpqXtcJItwXX
WELCOME TO THE DEM PARTY!
Hate to tell you lad but you as usual have the wrong party responsible for the depth of inequality. Typical right wing intoxication.
The book,“ Bulls Bears and the Ballot Box. By Bob Deitreick and Lew Goldfarb” inspired the following;
Ever wonder which party is the party to attend to.
Republicans are the worst stewardship in our nations 80 years history. Promoting Inequality through the Income Gap, as one example, of many.

A mathematical investigation was produced by the statisticians Pedro Santa Clara and Rossen Valkanov that exposes the superior performance of the stock markets under democrats. That this is but one example of the democrat’s superiority, as there are more.
Their study encompasses 80 years. Study demonstrates systematically and positively surprised by democratic policies. Comparing the stewardship of the two parties. They calculated each economic indicator as an “annual average” during the democrats and republicans of their economic stewardship of their 40 years each. Turns out to be a landslide for democrats providing beneficial returns to the nation. One example; Democrat’s presided over a very respectable average annual compound return of 9.60% during their 40 years where in as republicans averaged a dismal 0.58%.
Consider this; a 401K plan invested in stocks and had a value of $100,000 at the beginning of the 40 years. Democrats would accumulate in compound interest $ 3,912,210 where in as republicans would only produce $126,027 . Another example; “IF” an employee were to invest $5,000 per year into their 401K for 40 years in a democratic stewardship the employee would have $1,985,526 in the bank. Where as the republican would produce a dismal $224,375.
That republicans advocate that they are good for businesses is false as compared to the democrats
Another interesting fact emerges within the statistical study. The income gap between the 99% and the top 1% has widened considerably under republicans. Averaging .49% as compared to the democrat’s .41% That is to say under republicans the income gap in 40 years, widened by 19.6% and narrowed 16.4%. Resulting in a 36% difference.
LOL on debt republicans increased debt by 2.5 times greater than that of the democrats. Republicans $7.1 Trillion vs. the democrats $2.8 Trillion.
GOP’s Self-Proclamation for economic dominance; in fact it is a misnomer to call the GOP a fiscal responsible party and or a smaller government, when in fact the contrary is true.
Obama’s administration indicates he sought the great leaders on these issue. Eccles and FDR, Clinton and O’Neill to do what is most productive for our nation.
Now pass on this one small example of the fallacies of the republican’s erroneous policies and deceptions..
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Whatever

Gering, NE

#983082 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>That fkn mutt somehow believes that "fundamentalist" Muslims are somehow different than "fundamentalist" Christians.
LMAO
Like that end times illiterate who posts that Revelations nonsense here__they shouldn't allow Church of Christ members to own weapons of any kind or get within 500 feet of children.
Because the Muslim Brotherhood is involved in terrorist activities making your analogy absurd.

You are still being ridiculous.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983083 Sep 14, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Sure son! Post it as many times as you want!
Well do, it really draws an outline of the Muslim Brotherhood involvements and the Mid East response.

Good find.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#983084 Sep 14, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Because the Muslim Brotherhood is involved in terrorist activities making your analogy absurd.
You are still being ridiculous.
But I'm not posting to myself eh?

You're a real spayshul kinda loon aren't you?

Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#983085 Sep 14, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"real dumb"
You are saying that civilians killed by military air and missile strikes are only potential? You are dumb. But then again you could care less about those innocents, your boy hero nobama will order them so it is okay.
Peace
KMA
Potential. Not every military strike on a military installation kills innocent civilians.

Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#983086 Sep 14, 2013
EasyEed wrote:
<quoted text>
"real dumb"
Please continue to blame Bush. The boy president, nobama, has improved nothing. Maybe if we made him dictator, your dream, no congress, no Supreme Court to deter his idiocy as he continues to screw up would be your idea of Utopia. Just honestly answer the following questions;
- Why is unemployment higher than when nobama was elected and not improving
- Why is household income declining
- Why are more American's depending on food stamps and the number continues to grow
- Why are fewer American's paying income tax
- Why is GDP growth barely keeping up with inflation
- Why is the healthkare fiasco, nobamakare so unpopular with the American folks
- Why is he appearing to so weak, getting on his knees to pray that the UN and russia bail him out on the ,red line in the sand, he drew and then claimed he never said
- Why are you and other liberal loons unable to point to a single positive from the nobama administration
Could it be because it is easier to blame Bush? That makes it easier to gloss over the fact that the boy president nobama is a failure?
Peace
KMA
Nice slur, Racist f*ck Eed.

Why do you f*cking idiots think Obama is responsible for job losses in November, December of 2008, and most of January of 2009.

You people are sofa king stupid, you think a President is elected & takes office the next day.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#983087 Sep 14, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>But I'm not posting to myself eh?
You're a real spayshul kinda loon aren't you?
My correcting an error is all you got to defend this-Muslim Brotherhood is the same as the Church of Christ?
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#983088 Sep 14, 2013
America’s inequality;
“Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer.”
Illumination of this can be viewed within our USA. Increasing wealth, disproportional to the impoverished who are unable to maintain an
equitable ratio in gains. Impoverished, at their best, stagnation of their share in laborers productivity. Increasingly eroding of their portions of share to their labors productivity. Increasing to the inequality and accelerating negatively to the impoverished.
Three decades of low wages, to the 90%, with a growth of 15%. Earnings increase to the 1% have been cruising at 150% increases as to the 0.1% are racing at 300% Greater acceleration of wealth accumulation has affected the wealth at the bottom.
Middle class bastion of secured wealth accumulation has been severely oppressed. Homes lost their values. Top 1% lost wealth but it was soon recovered. Middle class years later are just now experiencing a strangulated loss gain to their investments if not a total loss. Typical 1% held 225 times the wealth of the typical middle class household. Doubling the ratio experienced as they were in 1962 and 1983.
Prior to 2007 the 1% enjoyed accumulating 57% of the nations wealth. Producing an increase in capital income after 1979 some 7/8 while those in the 95% received less than 3% of the increment.
Consider for an example; Walton’s family of the Wal-Mart empire commands a wealth of 69.7 Billion. Compare this to the total wealth of the 30% of the entire population, of the impoverished within the USA.
“Good” middle class jobs have been eviscerated that required moderate skills, like autoworkers’ jobs, in ratio to the unskilled laborers. Where in at the top greater skill levels were required.
Polarization of the labor force. Collapse of good jobs has been in affect for the last 25 years. Wages have gone down, increasing disparity of inequality in favor of the 1%. Creating a downward spiral for the middle class laborer.
Presently as an example; Single earner of family of two children, in good health, manages to work 40 hours per week,{Presently Average working hours for Americans is at 34 hours} at a wage above minimum {$8.50/hr} Pays S.S. which reduces his earnings to $8.00. Yearly income is $16,640 for 2080 hr’s of labor.
Pays no income tax but his employer charges him $200 a month for health insurance, to cover entire family and employer picks up remaining $550 cost per month of the cost to health insurance. This results in a take home pay $14,240 a year. Luck on his side, finds an apartment for $700 month with all utilities included. Now this reduces yearly earnings to $5,840 to cover all family cost for the year. Add in a car with fuel, insurance and maintenance at $3,000 per year and what remains is $2840. Under $3.00 per individual per day. No entertainment and no buffer zone for accidents or lost of wages.
Along comes the “Great Recession” Safety nets cut! Miss rent due to loss wages and homelessness looms.
One Example of nets being cut and their affect; Many states cut child care. Average monthly child care for two children $1,433 per month to be subtracted from the $2,840 a month families income. Results in $1.30 per, person per day! Good old Walmart job. Guess who has to subsdize that low wage. Food Stamps,Welfare, Health, etc. etc.
Bernard Forand

Fort Myers, FL

#983089 Sep 14, 2013
Think your insurance is good enough? Hmmm
Let us now consider those who lost their jobs. Full time employment dropped by 8.7 million during November 2007 to November 2011. Just as 7 million were entering the workforce for jobs. Deficit to laborers employment can be calculated at 15 million. USA’s unemployment insurance one of the least in the western civilized nations. A safety net in dire need of repair overflowed and tore apart. Generally unemployment insurance was for 6
Months. In the “Great Recession” that was severely underestimated. Unemployment of 1 to 2 years more the norm and growing. Eligibility was used to eliminate sectors of the unemployed resulting in late 2011 inadequacies of only 38% of the unemployed were receiving benefits. 44% never received any benefits. Those receiving benefits, 70% of them, realized their benefits would not sustain them to the next employment. More than 50% of those receiving unemployment benefits, suffered emotional and health problems. Health Care is unavailable to the unemployed, compounding the seriousness of the issue. Middle aged unemployed lost hope of ever finding work. Optimism still high on 70% of all unemployed that they would find work within the next 12 months.. Alas American unemployment is emulating Europe’s long intervals of unemployment scenarios. Affect of lifelong earnings dwindling with every passing day of unemployment.
Insecurity enters the fray. Employed work with visions of pink slips being forth coming. Observing low levels of social protection administered to their fellow laborers exacerbated their insecurities and trust in a failed system. Pensions and health to be offered onto the altars of Wall Street!
Once it was a security to know your pension was secured through government policies that regulated corporations bearing the risk of stock markets investments and or the S.S. net of the government. Now this is under siege to transfer the pensions responsibilities to the laborers at an age where inexperience or a failing of comprehension is to decide and secure their pensions. Been there done that. Does not work out for the average retiree. Failure of that ideology was prevalent during the years before F.D.R.
Imagine had the laborer adhered to the analyst of Wall Street as the “Great Recession” started to blossom. Predatory schemes eating up all their life savings, with no nets to catch them from their fall, to the streets of desolation row. Just as what republicans advocate for our already polarizing labor forces and the increasing inequality of wealth. Note the millions that lost their life savings and or their homes, shelter, health, security with the minimal regulations that was able to blunt the full measure the full scope of the disaster. Now we are to remove even these weak and unreliable safety nets.
Weakness and disrepair to these nets produced losses to retirement accounts.$6.5 trillion loss in housing valuations. Minorities and those that fell prey to the predatory lending schemes were hit even harder. Predatory loans on individuals blew away the American dream for all of them, for decades if ever to return, to one more chance at the American dream. African Americans household lost 53% of their wealth. Hispanics lost 66% of their household wealth. Rendering their assets to less than 5% of the average white American’s. Average white American lost substantially, to $113,149 in 2009. A 16% loss of wealth.

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