Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1457512 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983236 Sep 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't point fingers when you were the one to change the topic and failing to notice this.
The discussion was documented gains that blacks and women were making in income prior to Obama.
Your attempt to obfuscate this and claim the figures wrong by using income inequality data is mixing apple and oranges.
Ergos isn't a magic word that overcomes this mixing of stats.
dude, I don't dispute the fact that since the recession started in 2007, the income of middle class and poor Americans has gone down, my point was why just look at the last four years or so

The income of middle class and poor Americans has been steadily declining since 1980

those links showed both income and wealth, which are interconnected
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983237 Sep 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Yes and what you fail to understand is they lost ground under Obama because you can't read. Nobody was talking about the wealthy(changing the question).
So.... what part of Obama's plan does your census say caused this mess by him?

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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#983239 Sep 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
I wish I was kidding but...
Obama again is complaining about technology taking away jobs such as bank tellers.
I got news for him. It's only just getting started.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983240 Sep 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> No I'm not saying that. Learn to read. The economy would be this bad or better if Obama had done absolutely NOTHING! Once all the deadwood was cut the job market stabilized. It would have done so if Mickey Mouse was elected. Obama had nothing to do with it except cause the layoffs in the first place. Obama hasn't done jack squat but screw the economy up even worse.
How could you possibly 'know' this?

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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#983241 Sep 15, 2013
Time to go watch some football/racing. I shall respond when I return.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#983242 Sep 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell us the logic that claims a use of military force is different from war?
"There is a difference between a limited punishment of Syria for breaking an international taboo on the use of chemical weapons and becoming involved in a civil war." The foreign policy risk behind the Arab revolutions http://wapo.st/17sysWe via @washingtonpost
Whatever

Scottsbluff, NE

#983243 Sep 15, 2013
Okay folks here is what appears to be Obama's official line of excuse making

1)1) Rs call for strikes
2) Rs then oppose Obama's proposed strikes
3) Rs now oppose UN deal over its lack of force threat

1) McCain and Graham doesn't count
2) Just like the majority of Americans
3) You asked for use of force then reversed stance and agreed to removing threat of force

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983244 Sep 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Yes and what you fail to understand is they lost ground under Obama because you can't read. Nobody was talking about the wealthy(changing the question).
they've been losing ground since 1980...you and your alter ego whatever, claimed was that their incomes had been going up in the 80's, 90's and under bush. I just provided links that provided evidence that statement was not accurate.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983246 Sep 15, 2013
lol! Well, now that we know Stephen Moore is a political hack for the right wing nuts, it puts new light on the data he's interpreting!!!!!

"Stephen Moore
Editorial board member and senior economics writer, The Wall Street Journal.

Stephen Moore joined The Wall Street Journal as a member of the editorial board and senior economics writer on May 31, 2005. He splits his time between Washington and New York, focusing on economic issues, including budget, tax and monetary policy.

Stephen has been a frequent contributor to the Journal over the years, and is previously known as the founder and former president of the Club for Growth, which raises money for political candidates who favor free-market economic policies. He left that position in 2004. Just prior to coming to the Journal, Stephen was president of a new organization, the Free Enterprise Fund.

Over the years Stephen has served as a senior economist on the Congressional Joint Economic Committee, as a budget expert for the Heritage Foundation and as a senior economics fellow at the Cato Institute, where he published dozens of studies on federal and state tax and budget policy. He was a consultant to the National Economic Commission in l987, and research director for President Reagan's Commission on Privatization.

Stephen is the author of five books, most recently, "Bullish on Bush: How the Ownership Society Is Making America Richer." He graduated from the University of Illinois and holds a masters degree in economics from George Mason University."
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983248 Sep 15, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
dude, I don't dispute the fact that since the recession started in 2007, the income of middle class and poor Americans has gone down, my point was why just look at the last four years or so
The income of middle class and poor Americans has been steadily declining since 1980
those links showed both income and wealth, which are interconnected
lol! Don't worry. The 'source' they're ascribing to is a political right wing hack. He's simply interpreting data others need to purchase.

In other words, they're just parroting a source.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983250 Sep 15, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
"Middle class" is a set of values, not an income level.
Make your arguments by referring to specific income levels.
Most people with middle class values are doing very well, or at least do not continually blame others for their problems.
Maybe for you it is, but for everyone else, it is related to income and wealth

"One plausible definition of "middle-class" is those households in the middle quintile of the income distribution, or between the 40th and 60th percentiles. Under this view, 0-20th percentile is lower class, 20th-40th is lower-middle class, 40th-60th is middle class, 60th-80th is upper middle class, and 80th to 99th is upper class. The lower classes make under $20,262, in this view, and the upper classes above $101,582, according to the latest Census data. How do the classes compare, then? Let's compare the five classes, as well as what we'll call the Romney/Obama upper class, defined as those making over $200,000 a year. Here's how much each group makes, on average:"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/...

here's the result of googling middle class definition

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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#983251 Sep 15, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>How could you possibly 'know' this?
Because it has done so under every president except two. FDR and Obama.

LATER!!!!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983252 Sep 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
Okay folks here is what appears to be Obama's official line of excuse making
1)1) Rs call for strikes
2) Rs then oppose Obama's proposed strikes
3) Rs now oppose UN deal over its lack of force threat
1) McCain and Graham doesn't count
2) Just like the majority of Americans
3) You asked for use of force then reversed stance and agreed to removing threat of force
I did notice in the long run, when it comes to disarming Assad of his WMD's seems to be on the road towards MISSION ACCOMPLISHED without invading the country, the loss of a single American serviceman, the use of military force or arming questionable rebels

hard to argue with results
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#983253 Sep 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
You are the only confused about who was in office during those wars.
lol! Now, now son.

That's another lie of yours!

I haven't disputed that.

All I've asked for is the declaration of wars you claim exist. If you think about it (and clearly you haven't), just by proving that simple proof would make that claim of yours true.

So far, all you're proving is you want to duck, dodge, run and hide from your original point.

In other words, you lied! I'm simply trying to help you prove YOUR case son. I shouldn't have to but it seems you're having a lot of difficulty with yourself!

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#983254 Sep 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Yes and what you fail to understand is they lost ground under Obama because you can't read. Nobody was talking about the wealthy(changing the question).
so income is unrelated to wealth. BTW, the data I presented was for both INCOME AND WEALTH.

WHAT A MAROON
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Mililani, HI

#983255 Sep 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Because it has done so under every president except two. FDR and Obama.
LATER!!!!
This is what you claimed....

"....No I'm not saying that. Learn to read. The economy would be this bad or better if Obama had done absolutely NOTHING! Once all the deadwood was cut the job market stabilized."

Prove it then
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#983257 Sep 15, 2013
The Annual Republican Crisis

The fiscal year is about to end, so the annual awakening of Tea Party Republicans in the House and Senate is about to begin. Most of the time they sit around and do virtually nothing but gripe (they have made the current Congress the least productive ever), but a new fiscal year finally gives them a chance to govern the only way they know how: by creating a false crisis in order to tear down a piece of the government.

This year, as has been the case so often in the past, their target is President Obama’s health care reform law. If it is not repealed or defunded or delayed or otherwise left bleeding in the public square, they will not pass a spending bill needed to keep the government open past Sept. 30. And if that doesn’t cripple the health law (which it won’t), they will resort to the far more serious threat of default, refusing to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, no matter the catastrophe that would cause.

It has been clear for months that House Republicans are not going to agree to the Senate’s reasonable spending plan for 2014, one that replaces the damage of the sequester with a mix of revenue increases and less-harmful cuts. The House budget, in fact, calls for cuts to below the sequester level. The best that can be hoped for is a stopgap measure, known as a continuing resolution, to keep the government running through mid-December at this year’s inadequate level.

But on Wednesday, with time running out, House leaders announced they couldn’t manage even something as simple as that. Speaker John Boehner and Eric Cantor, the majority leader, had come up with a far-fetched scheme to placate the radicals in their coalition by attaching a provision to the spending resolution that would force the Senate to vote on defunding health reform. The Senate would, of course, instantly reject the health care language, but it could then approve the spending measure to prevent a shutdown.

The Republican extremists killed the idea, leaving the scheme without enough votes. They are no longer interested in symbolic blows against the health law; there have already been scores of those votes. They actually think they can get the Senate, and ultimately the president, to approve the defunding of the health law — Mr. Obama’s most important achievement — by threatening to harm the nation and the economy.

This is pure delusion. Democrats are never going to undo the law, especially knowing the size of the self-inflicted wound Republicans would suffer if they really did force a shutdown or, far worse, a default. But the powerful forces on the right don’t care about reality. The Club for Growth, a conservative group, announced it would use its dreaded ratings system against any Republican who supported a continuing resolution that did not “defund Obamacare.”

According to the Senate Conservatives Fund, an activist group,“House Republican leaders have chickened out and decided to fund a program that will destroy our country.” The group, founded by former Senator Jim DeMint, promised to run primary challengers against those who don’t vote to destroy the law.

Mr. Boehner, too, bears responsibility for the chaos that engulfs him. On Thursday, he demanded health-law concessions from Democrats, even as he announced that “we’ll continue to do everything we can to repeal, dismantle and defund Obamacare.” This only raises expectations on the right that the impossible might be achieved, as Harry Reid, the Senate majority leader, put it,“in an alternative universe.”

What the speaker should be doing is the only thing that will spare the economy this unnecessary trauma: putting a clean spending bill and debt-ceiling increase before the full House for a vote, making it clear that the shrill voices of extremists have been silenced.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/15/opinion/sun...

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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#983258 Sep 15, 2013
Here for the reading challenged and libtards. Whoops same thing.

Sentier Research provides access, interpretation, evaluation, and analysis of data on American households. Businesses and governments today are awash in a sea of data about the economy and consumers. These data are often biased, inaccurate, incomplete, and out-of-date. We can assist you in finding the best data and then help you understand them. Household income, demographics, discretionary spending, purchasing power, household forecasts, and taxes are topics that form the core of our capabilities.

Our most recent achievement is development of the first index to track changes in median household income on a monthly basis. This index, Household Income Index (HII) was first released in November 2011.
the good news

The new kid on the block so to speak is the American Community Survey (ACS). It replaces most of the detail we all used to get from the Decennial Census (actually has important the good newsadditions). The ACS produces data annually based on a sample of about about 3 million households. We specialize in using the ACS data.
the bad news

Easy access to detailed statistics from the ACS and other important surveys is seriously lacking. The only things available from the Census Bureau's website are very crude the bad news tabulations that are poorly labelled, and difficult to interpret. Do not be fooled into thinking that Census is the last stop for your data needs.

the best news

We provide services and software related to the ACS and, of course, other relevant hard hats required surveys that make the data easy to access. If you need anything from simple tabulations to detailed user directed tabulation systems we can create them fast. We also provide a lot of free advice so do not hesitate to contact us. If you can get what you need for free from us or from someplace else we will let you know.
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Mililani, HI

#983259 Sep 15, 2013
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>
Dong, do you squint-eyes eat breakfast?
Are you using this definition as a racist description son?
Whatever

Scottsbluff, NE

#983261 Sep 15, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
<quoted text>
dude, I don't dispute the fact that since the recession started in 2007, the income of middle class and poor Americans has gone down, my point was why just look at the last four years or so
The income of middle class and poor Americans has been steadily declining since 1980
those links showed both income and wealth, which are interconnected
Okay, I'm following

It is throwing money down a rabbit hole to try revive the past era of the industrial revolution using stimulus money.

Simply put, society needs to adjust to changing work force needs.

Our children need to excel in math and science which the US has been lagging behind in since Carter's Dept of Education began.

My second suggestion would be to stop over regulating industries that require technical workers as this is the industry with the most jobs to offer.

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