Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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I agree that no one wants a proxy war in Syria and hope for a peaceful solution; however, you're giving credit to Putin rather than to your own countries President; who, kept up the pressure that may result in this compromise. That is what I find deplorable in you, that you are anti American because of racism. You should be ashamed of yourself.
These fkn idiots on here hate Obama to the point that they're selling out their own nation. TeaParty scumbags__not patriots.

The Obama administration/CIA/Pentagon ran a game on Assad and his allies Russia and Iran and they all bought in knowing that the alternative was to "put up" which none of them could do.

Syria's a broken pizz pot that couldn't face off with the rebel factions without help from Iran, laughing, and Russia, whose been selling/trading junk weapons for decades and doesn't want to face the embarrassment of the world knowing that it's "junk don't work."

We know that the US weapons of war work as intended__we watched the US Air Force drop a bomb down a smokestack during Shock and Awe and stick a cruise missile through the front door of a hotel during the brief Bush I Iraq escapade.

Russia has nothing to counter Tomahawk missiles__no one does and it's very unlikely that Russia can defy the US stealth systems that shield our aircraft and ships from land based missiles.

Our sht works__theirs doesn't__they understand that!!!

We gave the mutts a way out of a certain azzwhoopin and they jumped all over it.
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Sep 10, 2013
 
DBWriter wrote:
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Let's get to the bottom of this.
Tell us why you believe Assad used the chemical weapons. Please do not use statements by known pathological liars unless that is all the proof you have.
"known pathological liars..."such as your fellow trolls?
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Sep 10, 2013
 
Incredibly naïve.
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Incredible.
How's that chess game going lily?

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

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I agree in the short term. But as Assad said, "there are other powers in that region besides his own government" who are ready for "anything to happen".
And if Russia becomes the victor now, so does Iran and China even if indirectly.
Assad is worried about an al Qaeda takeover as are we all. But that seems to be exactly what Iran wants.
So why not just stay out of it and let them duke it out themselves?
And clean up afterwards if necessary?
What exactly does Russia have to gain by helping out his pal, Assad?
Iran is shipping hundreds of tons of weaponry to Syria to kill the Al Qaeda insurgents. Al Qaeda is Suni. Iran is Shi'ite. This is really no more than the usual Suni-Shi'ite medieval mentality war.

Assad has maintained peace with Israel for a long time. Everyone has a vested interest in that.
If the Muslim Brotherhood takes over Syria, that won't be the case anymore.
There is a reason the Muslim Brotherhood was thrown out of the government of Egypt. The Egyptian military thought they were dangerous to have in government. There is a reason they were not able to secure power in Libya. They are considered to be too dangerous there, too.
If you look at the big picture, the United States should be helping prevent them from gaining any influence anywhere in the world.
The Muslim Brotherhood represents the most radical Islamist mentality that is the sole motivation for international terrorism from Sunis.
Why should be help them in any way?

And, how the hell did we end up with a Muslim Brotherhood president and administration?
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Sep 10, 2013
 
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I was born here, and this country belongs to ME.
You and Obama better get used to that fact.
Or, do we have to fight a war over that principle?
Just the fact that you can say that you feel safe if those chemical weapons are kept in Russia is preposterous.
They should be destroyed and disposed of, if that's even possible.

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I agree that no one wants a proxy war in Syria and hope for a peaceful solution; however, you're giving credit to Putin rather than to your own countries President; who, kept up the pressure that may result in this compromise. That is what I find deplorable in you, that you are anti American because of racism. You should be ashamed of yourself.
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? you should be ashamed of yourself. Racism. are you kidding me lily?
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Sep 10, 2013
 
lily boca raton fl wrote:
Assad pursued negotiations for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan with Iran, across Iraq to Syria, that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its South Pars field shared with Qatar. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the project was signed in July 2012 - just as Syria's civil war was spreading to Damascus and Aleppo - and earlier this year Iraq signed a framework agreement for construction of the gas pipelines.
The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline plan was a "direct slap in the face" to Qatar's plans. No wonder Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, in a failed attempt to bribe Russia to switch sides, told President Vladmir Putin that "whatever regime comes after" Assad, it will be "completely" in Saudi Arabia's hands and will "not sign any agreement allowing any Gulf country to transport its gas across Syria to Europe and compete with Russian gas exports", according to diplomatic sources. When Putin refused, the Prince vowed military action.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-...
President George Bush has nothing good to say about the dictator of Syria...but supported our President ...
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Sep 10, 2013
 
Voluntarist wrote:
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Members of the us military reported that they are training the rebels.
I have heard that; where'd you get that info?

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
Assad pursued negotiations for an alternative $10 billion pipeline plan with Iran, across Iraq to Syria, that would also potentially allow Iran to supply gas to Europe from its South Pars field shared with Qatar. The Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for the project was signed in July 2012 - just as Syria's civil war was spreading to Damascus and Aleppo - and earlier this year Iraq signed a framework agreement for construction of the gas pipelines.
The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline plan was a "direct slap in the face" to Qatar's plans. No wonder Saudi Prince Bandar bin Sultan, in a failed attempt to bribe Russia to switch sides, told President Vladmir Putin that "whatever regime comes after" Assad, it will be "completely" in Saudi Arabia's hands and will "not sign any agreement allowing any Gulf country to transport its gas across Syria to Europe and compete with Russian gas exports", according to diplomatic sources. When Putin refused, the Prince vowed military action.
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-...
So then the Prince and O'bama aligned themselves to lie about Asad's imaginary WMD's. Does it make sense to you now? A petro dollar state. mmm mmm mmm. Do you understand? WMD...

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Sep 10, 2013
 
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
JOHN KERRY'S seemingly off-the-cuff challenge for the Assad regime to turn over its chemical weapons has within 24 hours become de facto US policy that Kerry is now heralding as the 'ideal way' to resolve the Syria crisis — who knew?
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
These idiots in the Obama Administration didn't think of this as a mater of policy. It had to come out as a wiseguy remark from Lurch, now it's policy.
Just shows how pathetic Democrats are as leaders.
Of course, if Bush/Cheney were still in power, a full scale invasion would have been launched months ago for the sole purpose of funneling a few more billions in no bid government contracts to their political cronies. Of course, at least this time, they would have found WMD.
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Sep 10, 2013
 
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>These fkn idiots on here hate Obama to the point that they're selling out their own nation. TeaParty scumbags__not patriots.
The Obama administration/CIA/Pentagon ran a game on Assad and his allies Russia and Iran and they all bought in knowing that the alternative was to "put up" which none of them could do.
Syria's a broken pizz pot that couldn't face off with the rebel factions without help from Iran, laughing, and Russia, whose been selling/trading junk weapons for decades and doesn't want to face the embarrassment of the world knowing that it's "junk don't work."
We know that the US weapons of war work as intended__we watched the US Air Force drop a bomb down a smokestack during Shock and Awe and stick a cruise missile through the front door of a hotel during the brief Bush I Iraq escapade.
Russia has nothing to counter Tomahawk missiles__no one does and it's very unlikely that Russia can defy the US stealth systems that shield our aircraft and ships from land based missiles.
Our sht works__theirs doesn't__they understand that!!!
We gave the mutts a way out of a certain azzwhoopin and they jumped all over it.
President George Bush seems to agree!

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fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Everyone (except low information voters) knew where O'bama was going to take the United States of America once he was elected--he is doing exactly what he (O'bama) planned to do. Does this come as a 'surprise' to you? certainly it is not a surprise to me. O'bama has done exactly what I said he would do five years ago. You may not know but I lived in Chicago at the time.
Thank you Rush Limbaugh for creating jackasses like Wretch Almighty.

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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You can't prove he didn't. Where did AlQuaeda obtain the chemical weapons if they are the ones who did?
I honestly don't give a fk if Assad kills all the rebels if they are in fact AlQuaeda. Why would McCain and Graham push to arm the rebels if they are Al Quaeda?
That's a good question.

For conclusions as to Al Qaeda in Syria, search "al qaeda in syria" and start reading. Consensus ranges from Al Qaeda being strong to bieng dominant and there are not really rebels in Syria. The truth is probably somewhere in between. Al Qaeda is the only organization in Syria that is organized and ruthless enough to take control of the country if the Assad government falls.
That is one fact you should not deny. If the Assad government falls, Al Qaeda takes over.

Now, the only question you need to ask yourself is, do you think Americans should be killed helping the exact same people that attacked us on 9/11?
Obama is on their side. McCain is on their side.

Who's side are you on?

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Sep 10, 2013
 
Interesting article shedding some light on Syria's history - worth the read:

Syria has always been a complex place religiously. The country has a substantial Sunni Muslim majority, but it also has large minority communities of Christians, Alawites and others.

Alawites are members of an Islamic sect that draw heavily from Christian roots and who celebrate Christmas. They were long known as “Little Christians.”

Christianity made its cultural and intellectual home in Syria. St. Paul famously visited Damascus, and Antioch was one of the world’s greatest Christian centers flourishing under Islamic rule.

In the 1920s, the French arbitrarily carved out the country’s most Christian sections and designated that region “Lebanon” with its capital at Beirut.

But Syria changed after the First World War, and 1915 marked the beginning of the genocide of perhaps 1.5 million Armenians as well as hundreds of thousands of Assyrians, Maronites, and other Christian groups.

However, by the 1990s, five of seven Hafez al-Assad's (President from 1971 through 2000) closest advisers were Christian. His son Bashar is the current president and America’s nemesis in the region.

Christians in Syria today make up around 3 million people including many refugees and disguised crypto-believers.

Already, Christians have suffered terrible persecution in rebel-controlled areas with countless reports of murder, rape and extortion.

The present nightmare is if the present regime collapses, a radically anti-Western regime would emerge and kill or expel several million Christians and Alawites. This would be a political, religious and humanitarian catastrophe unparalleled since the Armenian genocide almost exactly a century ago.

The United States government may be pushing towards not a commemoration of the genocide but a re-enactment.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...

One more reason why we're in such a pickle. We don't know who the "rebels" are and know Assad's regime is evil.

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Here's that link again in case it couldn't be accessed.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articl...
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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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You can't prove he didn't. Where did AlQuaeda obtain the chemical weapons if they are the ones who did?
I honestly don't give a fk if Assad kills all the rebels if they are in fact AlQuaeda. Why would McCain and Graham push to arm the rebels if they are Al Quaeda?
Prove a negative, that makes sense.
It only shows that you do not believe that the us government wouldn't lie to the people to start a war, do you know the definition of insanity?
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Where did AlQuaeda obtain the chemical weapons if they are the ones who did?
Libya, Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, courtesy of Obama's Arab Spring?

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<quoted text>These fkn idiots on here hate Obama to the point that they're selling out their own nation. TeaParty scumbags__not patriots.
The Obama administration/CIA/Pentagon ran a game on Assad and his allies Russia and Iran and they all bought in knowing that the alternative was to "put up" which none of them could do.
Syria's a broken pizz pot that couldn't face off with the rebel factions without help from Iran, laughing, and Russia, whose been selling/trading junk weapons for decades and doesn't want to face the embarrassment of the world knowing that it's "junk don't work."
We know that the US weapons of war work as intended__we watched the US Air Force drop a bomb down a smokestack during Shock and Awe and stick a cruise missile through the front door of a hotel during the brief Bush I Iraq escapade.
Russia has nothing to counter Tomahawk missiles__no one does and it's very unlikely that Russia can defy the US stealth systems that shield our aircraft and ships from land based missiles.
Our sht works__theirs doesn't__they understand that!!!
We gave the mutts a way out of a certain azzwhoopin and they jumped all over it.
Here Lily is a prize propaganda piece in the United States, morons think Russia is still communist and 'only' has junk in their military--that is not the case any longer.

2012: Russia conducted a well-publicized test in which a Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft system shot down two cruise missiles launched from a Tu-95 bomber 800 kilometers away. The cruise missiles were heading for a building not far from where the Pantsir-S1 was parked.

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lily boca raton fl wrote:
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Just the fact that you can say that you feel safe if those chemical weapons are kept in Russia is preposterous.
They should be destroyed and disposed of, if that's even possible.
If that's even possible.

I don't trust Obama. Obama belongs to the Muslim Brotherhood and helps Al Qaeda. Therefore, letting Obama have anything to do with the disposal of the chemical weapons is not acceptable.

The UN has proven itself over and over again to be completely incompetent. They are not an option.

I don't see anything wrong with the chemical weapons being taken to Russia.
If not Russia, what country? What country is safe from Islamist terrorist influence? Definitely not the US. The Muslim Brotherhood is running this government.

Russia is stable. Russia is definitely anti-Islamist terrorist.

Let Russia help us here.

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Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
JOHN KERRY'S seemingly off-the-cuff challenge for the Assad regime to turn over its chemical weapons has within 24 hours become de facto US policy that Kerry is now heralding as the 'ideal way' to resolve the Syria crisis — who knew?
ROTFLMAO!!!!!
These idiots in the Obama Administration didn't think of this as a mater of policy. It had to come out as a wiseguy remark from Lurch, now it's policy.
Just shows how pathetic Democrats are as leaders.
O'bama and Kerry are now still propagandizing that they are going to bomb Syria. WTH. They have lost the brain cell they had left.

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