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“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#976632 Sep 5, 2013
Buy American or Drop Dead wrote:
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And the Austrian Hungarian empire was far from insignificant. It was one of the leading empires of the day my historically challenged friend
Really?
Where were they at the beginning of World War I? It seems they weren't even significant enough to be noticed.
I don't recall a single significant event in history that involved Austria-Hungary. Please tell us the history of Austria-Hungary's involvement in the world affairs.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#976633 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Weren't those amounts from the early 90's? The statement says that there no current programs only that they could start back up.
Clinton was arguing for regime change, not invasion. No troops, no military commitment. No nation building.
Regime change.
I think when you decide to invade & put soldiers at risk, you best be sure.
The condition is called Trauma Bonding, a disorder in which a deranged liberal chooses to remain loyal to their abuser.

It's the culture...

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#976634 Sep 5, 2013
Whatever wrote:
Who is Kerry using as his source for the claim rebels are moderate? Elizabeth O’Bagy. She is introduced as working for the Institute for the Study of War.
What is not disclosed is that she is the political director for Syrian Emergency Task Force, a group supporting the rebels.
SETF’s executive director is one Mouaz Moustafa. A Palestinian Arab, and was involved in the Libya war before he turned up in Syria. Supporter of Hamas.
It was ludicrous engough for Putin to proclaim Kerry a liar, using that exact word, to the world.

There is no civil war in Syria. Syria is being invaded by Al Qaeda, who is the military arm of the Muslim Brotherhood.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#976637 Sep 5, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Okay continue to look idiotic, it was a helpful suggestion.
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What you failed to check was "left wing" drivel, fool. That is all you post.
it's your job to check it.
EXPERT

Redding, CA

#976638 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Weren't those amounts from the early 90's? The statement says that there no current programs only that they could start back up.
Clinton was arguing for regime change, not invasion. No troops, no military commitment. No nation building.
Regime change.
I think when you decide to invade & put soldiers at risk, you best be sure.
Was he lying?

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#976639 Sep 5, 2013
Whoopsy wrote:
<quoted text>More like fall ass backwards into an escalation. And can't tell the truth because they, and corp media have been, for years, labeling "kooky" everyone who has already surmised and stated what's up in Syria, what was up in Iraq, Egypt, Iran, Arabia... We do go way back.
So I see it this way. We strike. Russia acts to neutralize the threat to it's 30,000 personnel across Syria and attacks our ships, which will probably require authorization to defend themselves...you know where this is going...and we're left with 4 sunken cruisers, mad as hell, etc.
Simply not worth the risk. Oil, that is. Yep, I think the game is still the same.
The Black Sea Fleet is right there. I guarantee you there are Russian submarines shadowing any US ship near Syria.
Russia can launch an air attack from the Black Sea as easily as we can launch an attack on Syria. I can see where Russians can be launching missiles at our ships within minutes of them launching cruise missiles.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#976640 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Weren't those amounts from the early 90's? The statement says that there no current programs only that they could start back up.
Clinton was arguing for regime change, not invasion. No troops, no military commitment. No nation building.
Regime change.
I think when you decide to invade & put soldiers at risk, you best be sure.
So, you think sailors on the ships launching the attack won't be attacked and killed? You really need to stop doing those drugs that make you hallucinate.
You are a moron. No wonder our government looks like its being run by the Three Stooges to the world.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#976641 Sep 5, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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So, you are against the war.
How many times do I have to say it....."I am not in favor of any military action that is not sanctioned by the United Nations or, at the very least, performed as part of a coalition of nations." IMO, we should never follow in the footsteps of George W. Bush.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#976642 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Syria had had a very active chemical weapons program for years. Please don't try to peddle that Sadam sent his to Syria because that would be dumber than sh*t.
I cannot prove Syria received chem weapons from Iraq, you cannot prove they didn't. Anything other than that would be pure political conjecture.

In other words, read your own words - especially the last three.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#976643 Sep 5, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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it's your job to check it.
That ugly picture of you on the internet LOL.. is spooky. sonicmoron standing there in a brown wall paneled trailer, all big eyed, puffy and ugly, showing your AMD computer... checked it.

It's the culture...
SHADOW

Boerne, TX

#976644 Sep 5, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Have no fear. Barack will persuade Putin to join us on the side of AlQaeda.
Putin isn't afraid to call them "AlQaeda". O'bigears the great divider didn't fool Putin, just pissed him off.
Putin calling heinz kerry a Liar just because he can and he knows our boy isn't man enough to do anything about it.
The world is laughing at the would be man child chillin' in the White House.
SHADOW

Boerne, TX

#976645 Sep 5, 2013
USAsince1680 wrote:
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How many times do I have to say it....."I am not in favor of any military action that is not sanctioned by the United Nations or, at the very least, performed as part of a coalition of nations." IMO, we should never follow in the footsteps of George W. Bush.
Sanctioned by the UN???? Why don't you go back where you came from commie.
No one should be telling the US what to do or not do. If you need that kind of thing move your muslim butt back over there where everyone thinks like that uSmsinceforever.
MOM

Waterbury, CT

#976646 Sep 5, 2013
The Crown family: investing in weapons, war ...and Obama Americans who went to the polls in 2008 believing that a vote for Barack Obama was a vote for peace, now face the prospect of a presidential election in which both major party candidates will be openly wedded to endless war, cold-blooded “targeted killings,” record military budgets, and the systematic violation of U.S. and international law.

The only gains people of conscience can make in national elections this year will be to elect more real progressives to Congress, people like veteran journalist and activist Norman Solomon in California and Wenona Baldenegro in Arizona, a Navajo who would be the first Native American woman in Congress. The corporate media have made sure that the Congressional Progressive Caucus (CPC) remains the best kept secret in American politics as it has quietly grown from 6 members in 1991 to 76 members today. CPC co-chair Raul Grijalva was even named the “most valuable representative” in Congress in 2011 by the Nation magazine.

But no grass-roots movement can challenge the auction of the highest public office in the land in 2012. Since Lewis Powell wrote his infamous “Powell Memo” in 1971, big business has consolidated and expanded its control of American politics exactly as he urged it to do. American corporations divert small portions of their profits to public relations and advertising firms to apply the same techniques to politics that they use to sell the products of their commercial monopolies to the public, while Democratic and Republican Party leaders enthusiastically embrace their privileged role in a system that former President Carter has described as “legalized bribery.”

The Republican primaries have shed light on Mitt Romney’s vulture fund background and Sheldon Adelson’s legalized bribery of Newt Gingrich. On the other hand, there has been little scrutiny of the interests behind the person who is already governing the United States.

In 2008, Senator Obama out-solicited Senator McCain by more than two to one:$748 million to $354 million. Less than 10 percent of Obama’s funds were raised by trade unions and only 24 percent came from donors who gave $200 or less, compared with Ron Paul’s 39 percent and Dennis Kucinich’s 56 percent. Even George Bush raised 26 percent of his funds from small donors in 2004, so Obama’s much-vaunted reliance on small donors was a deceptive PR stunt, not a new paradigm in grass-roots democracy.
MOM

Waterbury, CT

#976647 Sep 5, 2013
Obama was the Candidate of the War Lobby Funded by the Crown Family

Crown Dynasty Generously financed Barack Obama Election Campaign Under U.S. federal law an ultra-rich person is not supposed to make a campaign contribution of more than $2,300 per election each year to any one candidate for U.S. federal office. Yet in recent years members of an ultra-rich Chicago-based family, the Crown Dynasty, have apparently been making individual campaign contributions of more than $2,300 per election each year to a federal candidate named Barack Obama. According to the Center for Responsive Politics web site, for instance:

On September 29, 2003, Paula Crown of Henry Crown & Company gave an individual campaign contribution of $9,500 to Barack Obama. Subsequently, Paula Crown gave another individual campaign contribution of $2,000 to Obama on June 2, 2004 and a third individual campaign contribution of $2,000 to Obama on February 24, 2005. Four days later, on February 28, 2005, Paula Crown also gave a $25,000 campaign contribution to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee. The following year, Paula Crown gave another $25,000 campaign contribution to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on June 15, 2006;

On March 25, 2003, Susan Crown of Henry Crown & Company gave an individual campaign contribution of $2,000 to Obama. Later that same year, on December 10, 2003, Susan Crown gave a second individual campaign contribution of $5,000 to Obama. A few months later, on March 11, 2004, another individual campaign contribution of $5,000 was given to Obama by Susan Crown. And the following month, an additional individual campaign contribution of $5,000 was given by Susan Crown on April 15, 2004 to Obama;

An individual campaign contribution of $12,000 was also given on December 10, 2003 by Renee Crown to Obama. The following year, an individual campaign contribution of $2,000 was also given to Obama by Renee Crown on June 2, 2004;

On March 10, 2004, an individual campaign contribution of $12,000 was given by Rebecca Crown to Obama. The next month, on April 15, 2004, Rebecca Crown also gave a $10,000 campaign contribution to the DNC Services Corporation;cont...
Waxman

Windsor, CT

#976648 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Oh I get it. Everyone is lying and you have to personally review the intel.
Then there are the videos showing the victims. Oh that's right it was all staged.
Pathetic
Nobody cares what you think, Waxywaxturd.
MOM

Waterbury, CT

#976649 Sep 5, 2013
Obama was the Candidate of the War Lobby Funded by the Crown Family

Crown Dynasty Generously financed Barack Obama Election Campaign On June 27, 2003, James Crown of Henry Crown & Company gave an individual campaign contribution of $10,000 to Obama. The following year, on June 2, 2004, James Crown also gave an individual campaign contribution of $2,000 to Obama. That same year, a campaign contribution of $10,000 was also given to the DNC Services Corporation by James Crown. The following year, James Crown also gave a $25,000 campaign contribution to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee on February 28, 2005 and an individual campaign contribution of $2,000 to Obama on February 24, 2005. On June 15, 2006, another $25,000 campaign contribution was given to the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee by James Crown;

On February 23, 2004, Elizabeth Crown gave an individual campaign contribution of $12,000 to Obama;

On February 23, 2004, Patricia Crown also gave an individual campaign contribution of $12,000 to Obama;

The following day, on February 24, 2004, Joann Crown also gave an individual campaign contribution of $12,000 to Obama;

A few days later, on March 3, 2004, William Crown also gave an individual campaign contribution of $12,000 to Obama;

A. Steven Crown also gave an individual campaign contribution of $5,000 to Obama on September 29, 2003. That same year, on December 11, 2003, a second individual campaign contribution of $7,000 was also given to Obama by A.Steven Crown of Henry Crown & Company.

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#976650 Sep 5, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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I have a suggestion, Moocher eed. Look up Syria & their chemical weapon program on the internet.
You will learn that Syria had a robust industry & stockpile & would nid need Sadam's weapons.
Besides, when the f*ck will you dumbasses learn that Iraq & Syria were enemies. Syria backed Iran, not Iraq.
They sure sound like sworn enemies

""Syria has chosen to be with international legality represented by the United Nations Security Council. Syria has also chosen to stand by the Iraqi people who are facing an illegal and unjustified invasion and against whom are being committed all sorts of crimes against humanity," the statement said."

"BAGHDAD, June 9 [2002](AFP)- Iraq said Sunday it has sent 20 planeloads of humanitarian assistance to Syria to help victims of Tuesday's Zeyzoun dam collapse in the north of the neighbouring country.
"Iraqi Airways planes have made 20 flights to Damascus until today to take foodstuffs and pharmaceutical products to the victims," Transport Minister Ahmad Murtada Ahmad told the official INA news agency.

Iraq and Syria, governed by rival wings of the Baath party, froze diplomatic relations in 1980 over Syrian support for Iran in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, but have been forging closer ties since 1997. "
MOM

Waterbury, CT

#976651 Sep 5, 2013
Obama was the Candidate of the War Lobby Funded by the Crown Family

Crown Dynasty Generously financed Barack Obama Election Campaign General Dynamics, more than any other aerospace company, is dependent on the Pentagon; government defense contracts account for two-thirds of their sales…The power behind the scenes is Henry Crown, a Chicago financier and one of the richest, but least known, men in the country. A group headed by Crown, who was 83 in 1980, owns about 20% of the company. His associates, who sit on the General Dynamics board with him, are his son, Lester Crown, and Chicago industrialist Nathan Cummings, founder of Consolidated Foods…”

After Henry Crown’s death, General Dynamics sold its F-16 fighter jet production unit and the Crown family reduced its ownership stake in General Dynamics from 20% to 8%. But, according to the General Dynamics web site at http://www.generaldynamics.com/ , in 2005 “General Dynamics Combat Systems” was “becoming the world’s preferred supplier of land and amphibious combat systems development, production and support;” and “its product line” included “a full spectrum of armored vehicles, light wheeled reconnaissance vehicles, suspensions, engine transmissions, guns and ammunition handling systems, turret drive systems, and reactive armor and ordnance.”

The General Dynamics web site also indicated in 2005 that members of the Crown family like Henry Crown & Company President James Crown and Henry Crown & Company Chairman Lester Crown still sat on the General Dynamics corporate board in 2005-between retired Pentagon officials (like former U.S. Under-Secretary of Defense for Acquisition and Technology Paul Kaminski, former U.S. Naval Chief of Naval Operations Jay Johnson, former U.S. Army Chief of Staff John Keane, Retired U.S. General George Joulwan and former U.S. Air Force Chief of Staff Lester Lyles) and a former Royal Navy Vice-Admiral for the UK Ministry of Defense named Robert Walmsley.

A 2003 press release of the General Dynamics Ordnance and Tactical Systems business unit in St. Petersburg, Florida also noted that it had formed “a strategic alliance with Aeronautics Defense Systems, Ltd.,” an Israeli firm based in Yavne. Aeronautics Defense Systems Ltd. is the firm that developed the Unmanned Multi-Application System (UMASa) aerial surveillance tool which the Israeli military uses to “provide a real-time ‘bird’s eye view’ of the surveillance area to combatant commanders and airborne command posts.” According to then-Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Ehud Olmert, the agreement between General Dynamics and Aeronautics Defense Systems to bring together “both companies’ state-of-the art technologies in defense and homeland security” was “additional proof of the technological and commercial benefits that alliances between industries from the U.S. and Israel can produce.”Yet, ironically, the 2008 presidential candidate who apparently is being financially backed by the next generation of the Crown Dynasty seems to be marketing himself these days as “the next generation’s anti-war candidate.”

MOM

Waterbury, CT

#976652 Sep 5, 2013
Chemical Weapons Attacks Washington Doesn’t Want You to Talk About The Army Tested Chemicals on Residents of Poor, Black St. Louis Neighborhoods in The 1950s In the early 1950s, the Army set up motorized blowers on top of residential high-rises in low-income, mostly black St. Louis neighborhoods, including areas where as much as 70% of the residents were children under 12. The government told residents that it was experimenting with a smokescreen to protect the city from Russian attacks, but it was actually pumping the air full of hundreds of pounds of finely powdered zinc cadmium sulfide. The government admits that there was a second ingredient in the chemical powder, but whether or not that ingredient was radioactive remains classified. Of course it does. Since the tests, an alarming number of the area’s residents have developed cancer. In 1955, Doris Spates was born in one of the buildings the Army used to fill the air with chemicals from 1953 – 1954. Her father died inexplicably that same year, she has seen four siblings die from cancer, and Doris herself is a survivor of cervical cancer.The CIA Helped Saddam Hussein Massacre Iranians and Kurds with Chemical Weapons in 1988
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CIA records now prove that Washington knew Saddam Hussein was using chemical weapons (including sarin, nerve gas, and mustard gas) in the Iran-Iraq War, yet continued to pour intelligence into the hands of the Iraqi military, informing Hussein of Iranian troop movements while knowing that he would be using the information to launch chemical attacks. At one point in early 1988, Washington warned Hussein of an Iranian troop movement that would have ended the war in a decisive defeat for the Iraqi government. By March an emboldened Hussein with new friends in Washington struck a Kurdish village occupied by Iranian troops with multiple chemical agents, killing as many as 5,000 people and injuring as many as 10,000 more, most of them civilians. Thousands more died in the following years from complications, diseases, and birth defects.

Since: Aug 13

Bozeman, MT

#976653 Sep 5, 2013
Eman wrote:
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They sure sound like sworn enemies
""Syria has chosen to be with international legality represented by the United Nations Security Council. Syria has also chosen to stand by the Iraqi people who are facing an illegal and unjustified invasion and against whom are being committed all sorts of crimes against humanity," the statement said."
"BAGHDAD, June 9 [2002](AFP)- Iraq said Sunday it has sent 20 planeloads of humanitarian assistance to Syria to help victims of Tuesday's Zeyzoun dam collapse in the north of the neighbouring country.
"Iraqi Airways planes have made 20 flights to Damascus until today to take foodstuffs and pharmaceutical products to the victims," Transport Minister Ahmad Murtada Ahmad told the official INA news agency.
Iraq and Syria, governed by rival wings of the Baath party, froze diplomatic relations in 1980 over Syrian support for Iran in the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq war, but have been forging closer ties since 1997. "
Don't confuse Dave with contrary info. It does not mesh with the propagan, um, intel from his fact-only sources.

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