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LCNLin

United States

#974124 Aug 31, 2013
Members of Congress, abruptly handed exactly the war powers many had demanded, grappled Saturday with whether to sign off on President Barack Obama's plan to punish Syria for an alleged chemical weapons attack. Now with a stake in the nation's global credibility, lawmakers were seeking more information about the possible consequences of striking a region without knowing what would happen next.

The debate over what action, if any, Congress might approve is in its infancy as lawmakers prepare for a public hearing Tuesday by the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. But the first contours began emerging within hours of Obama's announcement.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/mcco...

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said he doesn't believe Syria should go unpunished for the Aug. 21 attack near Damascus. "But we need to understand what the whole scope of consequences is," he said by telephone. "What the president may perceive as limited ... won't stop there."

Arguing for a strategy that seeks to end Syrian President Bashar Assad's rule, Sens. John McCain of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina issued a joint statement saying that any operation should be broader in scope than the "limited" scope Obama described.

"We cannot in good conscience support isolated military strikes in Syria that are not part of an overall strategy that can change the momentum on the battlefield, achieve the president's stated goal of Assad's removal from power, and bring an end to this conflict, which is a growing threat to our national security interests," the senators said.

"Anything short of this would be an inadequate response to the crimes against humanity that Assad and his forces are committing. And it would send the wrong signal to America's friends and allies, the Syrian opposition, the Assad regime, Iran, and the world - all of whom are watching closely what actions America will take," they said.

Lawmakers of both parties had, for days, demanded that Obama seek congressional authorization under the War Powers Act. Until Saturday, the president showed no willingness to do so and the military strike appeared imminent. Then, from the White House Rose Garden, Obama said he would strike Syria in a limited way and without boots on the ground. But, he added, he would seek congressional approval first.

"All of us should be accountable as we move forward, and that can only be accomplished with a vote," Obama said. "And in doing so, I ask you, members of Congress, to consider that some things are more important than partisan differences or the politics of the moment."

With that, Obama dropped the question of Syria, the nation's credibility and the balance of government power in the very laps of lawmakers who had complained about his go-it-alone-style — but were less clear about how they would want to deal with a horrific chemical attack that the administration said killed 1,429 people, including 426 children. Other estimates of the death toll were in the hundreds.

By evening Saturday, the White House sent Congress its draft of a resolution to authorize Obama to use military force. The draft does not lay out a specific timeline or course of military action but gives Obama approval to use the military as he determines "necessary and appropriate" to meet its objective of preventing further chemical attacks. It also affirms the administration's view that, ultimately, only a negotiated political settlement can resolve the crisis in Syria.
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#974126 Sep 1, 2013
TernceS wrote:
<quoted text>
The U.N. turned Obama down.
The British turned Obama down.
France surrendered already.
Obama is a day late and a dollar short.
It's already over. Everyone but you knows that.
Get off the bus man. Nobody is supporting Obama.
except for the UK, it's the same ones whip turned down bushie boy too!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#974127 Sep 1, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>Psst, if O'bama has the goods on Assad gassing the 'children, children, children why doesn't he pass on the intelligence to the United Nations and plead his case you 'moran'.
*I see what they say about your drinking problem:)
didn't the UN just leave? Oh that's right. You don't believe in them!
Yeah

Mililani, HI

#974128 Sep 1, 2013
Chicagoan by Birth wrote:
<quoted text> You're the pravaracator.You're gonna wait until hell freezes over and you and Satan get up a hockey team.. But it's ok really, look at what Barack Hussein Obama has done w/o Congressional approval. Oh that's right it's ok if he does it, and without citizenship to boot.. Whata guy... you'll cover his behind like a blanket, he's a Demorat...
lol! Awwwww....but you're still a liar son! Poor baby...
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#974129 Sep 1, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>I would like to start with Clinton and his ordered regime change in Iraq that he made law. I suppose O'bama would be playing checkers with Saddam to get that done--maybe spades. What do you think?
Where is the proof that Asaad is killing his own people with chemical weapons? The videos, that the media, in the United States are using are a hoax. Very bad actors-they actually used some of the same video and photographs from the Moslem Bro Hoodie site in Egypt--you know when the same terrorists said that the Egyptian Military was using chemical weapons on the Morsi Hoodies...same photos same lie. Why didn't O'bama go and save all those children children children in Egypt? they are the same children you know.
and Obama wasn't born in Hawaii.

do you even hear yourself?

and now children? so now we know how you really feel about Iraq. traitor.
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#974130 Sep 1, 2013
Anonymous of Indy wrote:
<quoted text>I know that information is bogus because you didn't provide a link.
Federal Statistics of black on white violence, with links and mathematical extrapolation formulas.
Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.
Blacks are three times more likely to use a hand gun, and twice more likely to use a knife.
Hispanics commit three times more violent crimes than whites, but the statistics are nebulous because sometimes they are classified as white, so it could be far higher.
The best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percent of the population that is black and Hispanic.
http://www.examiner.com/article/federal-stati...
a smart person could have found this.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.p...

though it seems that 93% of black murders are committed by blacks. my bad.

and why not comment on the white man telling us about white man problems?

http://www.timwise.org/2013/08/nazis-cant-do-...

considering that everything some black person says about other black people seems to be of the highest credibility....well, as long as he's saying what You want to hear, and i can assure you that Mr. Wise is saying what I want to hear.

and btw....

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in...

do you think there's some correlation between whites committing rape and drinking?
sonicfilter

Fishers, IN

#974131 Sep 1, 2013
The Odds of War in Syria? A Lot Higher Now

Obama did the right thing, morally and constitutionally. Now the question is will Congress follow suit and approve a strike on Syria—or will they take the side of a murderous war criminal.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08...

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#974132 Sep 1, 2013
Buroc Millhouse Obama wrote:
<quoted text>
You aren't making any sense. Out of one side of your mouth you talk about War Mongering, but then out of the other side you say it's OK if Obama gets backing.
Abandon his "principles"? He promised to end the wars, instead he carries on and get's involved in new ones.
I hope you are not a parent. Your kids sure would grow up confused with you around. Typical liberal, Geeessshhh!!!
Geeessshhhh! You and yours are the ones who can't make up your minds. One minute you are claiming Obama's inaction is a sign of weakness and the next, you are criticizing him for proposing aggressive action. It's idiotic.

Despite the urging and criticism by the warmongering Republicans, Obama has always shown a reluctance to go to war. That is why so many liberals were surprised and upset by his seeming willingness to advocate unilateral aggressive action against Syria.

Again, I will remind you that we have an OBLIGATION under the UN charter to participate as a member of NATO forces and all members of the United Nations have an OBLIGATION to take action against anyone who uses Chemical Weapons. That is a fact. If that involves military force, so be it but we definitely should not, under any circumstances, go it alone. I am hopeful that Congress will come to the same conclusion as Britain's House of Commons. The United Nations should take the lead in international affairs...not the United States or Britain.
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#974133 Sep 1, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
You should go back and read the entire GOP plan - especially the section about "expanding availability and accessibility of health care coverage".
http://www.cbsnews.com/htdocs/pdf/GOPHealthPl...
Even you might be surprised. The few good parts in Obamacare were also included.
Requiring thousands of new government employees to oversee and implement this new law and thousands of new regulations designed to confound, confuse and burden employers isn't the solution.
Why would Congress and corporations want to be exempt if it were such a good solution?
I did read the entire plan dumbass, three times! Every time I read it I came up with the same question. Where's the beef? There isn't any! It's all bun! If anyone ever presented a piece of garbage like this to their corporate CEO or board of directors they'd be laughed out of the room and most likely fired.
The GOP promised four years ago that they'd flesh this piece of crap out and put it into legislative language and they haven't yet. They never had any intention to. But then again you were stupid enough to believe them on term limits too.
PDUPONT

Belchertown, MA

#974134 Sep 1, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
That's one of the few good things the GOP included - pre-existing conditions.
Everyone on the right since the beginning has been saying that.
If we scraped this monstrosity and started over again with Republicans being part of the equation this time, that would still be included.
So just how do you accomplish guaranteed coverage for those with pre existing conditions without an individual mandate to spread the risk Carol?
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#974135 Sep 1, 2013
PDUPONT wrote:
<quoted text>
So just how do you accomplish guaranteed coverage for those with pre existing conditions without an individual mandate to spread the risk Carol?
Perhaps your smelly sock RealDumbDave has the answer you ridiculous turd ball...

It's the culture...
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#974136 Sep 1, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
The Odds of War in Syria? A Lot Higher Now
Obama did the right thing, morally and constitutionally. Now the question is will Congress follow suit and approve a strike on Syria—or will they take the side of a murderous war criminal.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/08...
This morning's political shows ought to a hoot.
Hah, LMAO at the poster who said you were lying because you didn't provide a link and then cited the examiner blog.

Since: May 11

Gettysburg, PA

#974137 Sep 1, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Can you provide a few credible links to prove this?
This is all I could find. Nothing to confirm it.
http://sreaves32.wordpress.com/2013/08/31/wil...
You are a moron.

Grassley put up an amendment to the ACA that says Congress members & their staffs must get their healthcare benefits through the exchanges. All the Democrats voted for it.

http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/congress-exe...
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#974138 Sep 1, 2013
LCNLin wrote:
<quoted text>
The British parliamentary rejection of military intervention in Syria Thursday night was not a sign of isolationism or nonchalance over the alleged use of chemical weapons by the Syrian regime, but rather it reflects a necessary use of caution and prudence in these chaotic times.
Coming a decade after the country tumbled headfirst into the disaster which became the Iraq war, the British public is clearly still feeling bruised, reticent to trust their politicians. After the facts and truths were so grossly manipulated back in 2003, and the motive for war was premised on the possibility of the presence of WMD, it is understandable that people are now wary of evidence placed before them. Especially when there are still so many unknowns surrounding last week’s attack east of Damascus, which rebels say killed hundreds.
Indeed, during the lengthy debate in Parliament, MPs referred specifically to the Iraq debacle, a war so ill thought out that it is still claiming hundreds of lives each month in sectarian violence. Once bitten, twice shy.
And this loss of trustworthiness, stemming from a neglect of the values of transparency and openness, is being felt across western Europe and in the U.S., with opinion polls very firmly highlighting public opposition to intervention. The public is sick of war, and full of skepticism over any long-term objectives. It all too often appears that foreign policy advisers are stumbling into decisions, forced into corners due to global allegiances or rivalries. Understandably, people become wary that the best motives are truly influencing these decisions.
But whereas Cameron appeared to have clumsily rushed through a motion, which at least he allowed the opposition to modify, perhaps the U.S. is going to be more careful. John Kerry spoke Friday evening with confidence over intelligence which pointed, without a shadow of a doubt, to the regime being responsible. It was the speech Cameron should have given before his parliamentary vote.
The use of chemical weapons by the Assad regime, a claim which the evidence thus far seems to support, is an outrageous act, and the culprits must be punished, as Kerry stated. Those responsible must realize they cannot carry out such acts ever again. But to carry out a punitive strike, to merely satisfy Western consciences, is not the way to do this. Such a crude use of military power, rushed into and poorly planned, with no thought to the repercussions, would do more harm than good. Possibly with this in mind, Kerry was right to assure the public that any intervention in Syria would bear no similarity to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
With an issue as sensitive as this, in a part of the region so critical, the international community must be as scrupulous and as careful as it can be with the facts. It must consider all outcomes of its actions, and have answers on what happens tomorrow. And the war-weary public rightly expects as much.
Read more: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/Opinion/Editorial...
(The Daily Star :: Lebanon News :: http://www.dailystar.com.lb )
The Brits can't stand the narcissistic Obama. He's done nothing but diss them every chance he's had since January 2009.

In January 2011 Obama said:'We don’t have a stronger friend and stronger ally than Nicolas Sarkozy, and the Cheese Eating Surrender Monkeys.' This is after France sat out and opposed the Iraq War.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#974139 Sep 1, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
why do 'you people' hate Reagan?
Quite the opposite, Reagan should be admired in spite of the Democrats
reneging on their promises to closing the border and not lowering spending.

Since: Aug 13

Location hidden

#974140 Sep 1, 2013
Our Gov Lies wrote:
WAKE UP FOLKS WE ARE BEING DESTROYED !
WE ARE IN SERIOUS DANGER BECAUSE OF JEWISH ISRAEL !
Have you always been an anti-semite?
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#974141 Sep 1, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a moron.
Grassley put up an amendment to the ACA that says Congress members & their staffs must get their healthcare benefits through the. All the Democrats voted for it.
http://www.factcheck.org/2010/01/congress-exe...
Updates, waivers and exemptions since 2010 exempted Congress members & their staff from healthcare benefits through exchanges...

It's the culture...

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#974142 Sep 1, 2013
fetch almighty wrote:
<quoted text>That's funny cause USA1680 is a 9/11 truther too. Which is more degrading?
ou

Everyone knows you're a liar but you just proved, once again, that can't help yourself.
Grampy

South Windsor, CT

#974143 Sep 1, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>This morning's political shows ought to a hoot.
Hah, LMAO at the poster who said you were lying because you didn't provide a link and then cited the examiner blog.
Obama is dithering on Syria, just like he did on General McChrystal's August 30, 2009 request for a troop surge in Afghanistan. Obama shelved the request for weeks and then was pissed off when the general went to the press revealing Obama's dithering in early October. It took until December 1.2009 for the Ditherer to announce his decision.

Now Obama gets to stall a couple more weeks on Syria and if the military response is ineffective he'll blame the Armed Services and Congress. If Congress votes no he'll be able to retreat from his Red Line (which he really wants to do)and say he had to honor their decision.

How are those Iran/Nuke talks going? Obama dithers while Iran speeds up plutonium production.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#974144 Sep 1, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
That's because we are enjoying watching Obama make a fool of himself while you leftwingers struggle to find a way to support Obama's War on Syria.
Don't you mean McCain's war on Syria? The Republican presidential candidate who referred to the "US failure" to intervene in Syria as 'shameful' and described Obama’s plans for limited air strikes on Syria as “cosmetic”? You people are deranged.

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