Barack Obama, our next President

Barack Obama, our next President

There are 1497821 comments on the Hampton Roads Daily Press story from Nov 5, 2008, titled Barack Obama, our next President. In it, Hampton Roads Daily Press reports that:

"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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WOW

New York, NY

#960251 Aug 6, 2013
Equally unknown to the American people is that Snowden, a “high-level member,” according to the NDB, of the US military cabal threatening the Obama regime, had offered to return to America to face the charges leveled against him knowing that if were able to survive the citizens of his country would learn the full horrors of the monsters ruling over them, an offer that was rejected by the US.

Snowden’s fears for his safety have, indeed proved valid since the Obama regimes assassinations of Michael Hastings, Aaron Swartz and Barnaby Jack and as we reported on in our 29 July report revealing how the Russian military is currently preparing for all-out war.

And in one of the most shameful acts against the American people by their own mainstream press, their refusal to publish, let alone mention, Edward Snowden’s fathers open letter to Obama will stand forever as an indictment against those elites seeking to enslave these once great people forever, and as we can all read in its entirety:

July 26, 2013

President Barack Obama

The White House

1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20500

Re: Civil Disobedience, Edward J. Snowden, and the Constitution

Dear Mr. President:

You are acutely aware that the history of liberty is a history of civil disobedience to unjust laws or practices. As Edmund Burke sermonized,“All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”

Civil disobedience is not the first, but the last option. Henry David Thoreau wrote with profound restraint in Civil Disobedience:“If the injustice is part of the necessary friction of the machine of government, let it go, let it go: perchance it will wear smooth certainly the machine will wear out. If the injustice has a spring, or a pulley, or a rope, or a crank, exclusively for itself, then perhaps you may consider whether the remedy will not be worse than the evil; but if it is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. Let your life be a counter friction to stop the machine.”

Thoreau’s moral philosophy found expression during the Nuremburg trials in which “following orders” was rejected as a defense. Indeed, military law requires disobedience to clearly illegal orders.

A dark chapter in America’s World War II history would not have been written if the then United States Attorney General had resigned rather than participate in racist concentration camps imprisoning 120,000 Japanese American citizens and resident aliens.

Civil disobedience to the Fugitive Slave Act and Jim Crow laws provoked the end of slavery and the modern civil rights revolution.
shrimp_on_a_trea dmill

United States

#960252 Aug 6, 2013
S
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
it's the tea party culture.
Scrubbing helpless liberals ball sacks....

It's the culture!
WOW

New York, NY

#960253 Aug 6, 2013
We submit that Edward J. Snowden’s disclosures of dragnet surveillance of Americans under § 215 of the Patriot Act,§ 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act Amendments, or otherwise were sanctioned by Thoreau’s time-honored moral philosophy and justifications for civil disobedience. Since 2005, Mr. Snowden had been employed by the intelligence community. He found himself complicit in secret, indiscriminate spying on millions of innocent citizens contrary to the spirit if not the letter of the First and Fourth Amendments and the transparency indispensable to self-government. Members of Congress entrusted with oversight remained silent or Delphic. Mr. Snowden confronted a choice between civic duty and passivity. He may have recalled the injunction of Martin Luther King, Jr.:“He who passively accepts evil is as much involved in it as he who helps to perpetrate it.” Mr. Snowden chose duty. Your administration vindictively responded with a criminal complaint alleging violations of the Espionage Act.

From the commencement of your administration, your secrecy of the National Security Agency’s Orwellian surveillance programs had frustrated a national conversation over their legality, necessity, or morality. That secrecy (combined with congressional nonfeasance) provoked Edward’s disclosures, which sparked a national conversation which you have belatedly and cynically embraced. Legislation has been introduced in both the House of Representatives and Senate to curtail or terminate the NSA’s programs, and the American people are being educated to the public policy choices at hand. A commanding majority now voice concerns over the dragnet surveillance of Americans that Edward exposed and you concealed. It seems mystifying to us that you are prosecuting Edward for accomplishing what you have said urgently needed to be done!

The right to be left alone from government snooping–the most cherished right among civilized people—is the cornerstone of liberty. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson served as Chief Prosecutor at Nuremburg. He came to learn of the dynamics of the Third Reich that crushed a free society, and which have lessons for the United States today.

Writing in Brinegar v. United States, Justice Jackson elaborated:

The Fourth Amendment states:“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#960255 Aug 6, 2013
Lawrence O’Donnell destroys O’Reilly’s racist rants with actual science

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/06/lawrenc...

happens all the time.
shrimp_on_a_trea dmill

United States

#960256 Aug 6, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
To Stop al-Qaeda, Stop Bombing & Occupying Muslim Lands
Apparently, the threat is both serious and specific.
The United States ordered 22 diplomatic missions closed and issued a worldwide travel alert for U.S. citizenls.
The threat comes from Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, AQAP, the most lethal branch of the terrorist organization.
“After Benghazi,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.,“these al-Qaeda types are really on steroids thinking we’re weaker and they’re stronger.…
“They want to drive the West out of the Mideast and take over these Muslim countries and create an al-Qaeda-type religious entity … and if we ever take the bait and try to come home and create fortress America, there will be another 9/11.”
By the time this column appears, America may have been hit. Yet is it not time to put al-Qaeda in perspective and consider whether our Mideast policy is creating more terrorists than we are killing?
In 2010 America lost 15 citizens to terrorism. Thirteen of them died in Afghanistan. The worst attack was the killing of six Americans at a Christian medical mission in Badakhshan Province.
Yet, in 2010, not one death here in America resulted from terrorism.
That year, however, 780,000 Americas died of heart disease, 575,000 of cancer, 138,000 from respiratory diseases, 120,000 in accidents (35,000 in auto accidents), 69,000 from diabetes, 40,000 in drug-induced deaths, 38,000 by suicide, 32,000 by liver disease, 25,000 in alcohol-induced deaths, 16,000 by homicide and 8,000 from HIV/AIDS.
Is terrorism the killer we should fear most and invest the lion’s share of our resources fighting?
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/to-sto...
Harry Reid!
Help us!

Ban heart disease and heart attacks!

Legislate my life Liberals....clean my dirty shrimp balls too!
WOW

New York, NY

#960258 Aug 6, 2013
The Fourth Amendment states:“The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.”

These, I protest, are not mere second-class rights but belong in the catalog of indispensable freedoms. Among deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart. Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. And one need only briefly to have dwelt and worked among a people possessed of many admirable qualities but deprived of these rights to know that the human personality deteriorates and dignity and self-reliance disappear where homes, persons and possessions are subject at any hour to unheralded search and seizure by the police.

We thus find your administration’s zeal to punish Mr. Snowden’s discharge of civic duty to protect democratic processes and to safeguard liberty to be unconscionable and indefensible.

We are also appalled at your administration’s scorn for due process, the rule of law, fairness, and the presumption of innocence as regards Edward.

On June 27, 2013, Mr. Fein wrote a letter to the Attorney General stating that Edward’s father was substantially convinced that he would return to the United States to confront the charges that have been lodged against him if three cornerstones of due process were guaranteed. The letter was not an ultimatum, but an invitation to discuss fair trial imperatives. The Attorney General has sneered at the overture with studied silence.

We thus suspect your administration wishes to avoid a trial because of constitutional doubts about application of the Espionage Act in these circumstances, and obligations to disclose to the public potentially embarrassing classified information under the Classified Information Procedures Act.

Your decision to force down a civilian airliner carrying Bolivian President Eva Morales in hopes of kidnapping Edward also does not inspire confidence that you are committed to providing him a fair trial. Neither does your refusal to remind the American people and prominent Democrats and Republicans in the House and Senate like House Speaker John Boehner, Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi, Congresswoman Michele Bachmann,and Senator Dianne Feinstein that Edward enjoys a presumption of innocence. He should not be convicted before trial. Yet Speaker Boehner has denounced Edward as a “traitor.”

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#960259 Aug 6, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans left the White House in January of 009 with the worst recession in 80 years, a Housing Collapse, a near financial meltdown, doubling the debt, two quagmire wars and the evil Democrats are killing our country.
You people are beyond pathetic.


As usual, you're in denial the Democrats had a little something to do with the housing collapse and the financial meltdown - especially since the spending increased the most during the last two years before the meltdown when they controlled Congress.

You also forgot to mention the debt has tripled and will quadruple under this administration. Before it's all over but the cryin'.
LCN Llin

United States

#960260 Aug 6, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your source had nothing to do with sharecropping or forty acres and a mule.
But this is the second or third time I've provided history websites to Tenzing - and now you - on the subject.
But here is yet another one.
"General William T. Sherman encouraged granting a number of freed men 40 acres each of the abandoned land left in the wake of his army. During Reconstruction, however, the conflict over labor resulted in the sharecropping system. As one of the first acts of Reconstruction, President Andrew Johnson ordered all land under federal control to be returned to its previous owners."
http://www.history.com/topics/sharecropping
The moral of the story: When you insist on being wrong about documented facts, you're probably wrong about a lot of things.
Spike Lee movie site.
Fail to understand reason for civil war posts ;-)
WOW

New York, NY

#960261 Aug 6, 2013
Ms. Pelosi has pontificated that Edward “did violate the law in terms of releasing those documents.” Ms. Bachmann has pronounced that,“This was not the act of a patriot; this was an act of a traitor.” And Ms. Feinstein has decreed that Edward was guilty of “treason,” which is defined in Article III of the Constitution as “levying war” against the United States,“or in adhering to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort.”

You have let those quadruple affronts to due process pass unrebuked, while you have disparaged Edward as a “hacker” to cast aspersion on his motivations and talents. Have you forgotten the Supreme Court’s gospel in Berger v. United States that the interests of the government “in a criminal prosecution is not that it shall win a case, but that justice shall be done?”

We also find reprehensible your administration’s Espionage Act prosecution of Edward for disclosures indistinguishable from those which routinely find their way into the public domain via your high level appointees for partisan political advantage. Classified details of your predator drone protocols, for instance, were shared with the New York Times with impunity to bolster your national security credentials. Justice Jackson observed in Railway Express Agency, Inc. v. New York:“The framers of the Constitution knew, and we should not forget today, that there is no more effective practical guaranty against arbitrary and unreasonable government than to require that the principles of law which officials would impose upon a minority must be imposed generally.”

In light of the circumstances amplified above, we urge you to order the Attorney General to move to dismiss the outstanding criminal complaint against Edward, and to support legislation to remedy the NSA surveillance abuses he revealed. Such presidential directives would mark your finest constitutional and moral hour.

Sincerely,

Bruce Fein

Counsel for Lon Snowden
LCN Llin

United States

#960262 Aug 6, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Lawrence O’Donnell destroys O’Reilly’s racist rants with actual science
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/08/06/lawrenc...
happens all the time.
Bill O funny.
US may need to speed withdrawal from Afghanistan and Islamic countries.
Not worth the bones of one US soldier.
trolls active today ;-)
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#960263 Aug 6, 2013
LoisLane59 wrote:
<quoted text>
Your source had nothing to do with sharecropping or forty acres and a mule.
But this is the second or third time I've provided history websites to Tenzing - and now you - on the subject.
But here is yet another one.
"General William T. Sherman encouraged granting a number of freed men 40 acres each of the abandoned land left in the wake of his army. During Reconstruction, however, the conflict over labor resulted in the sharecropping system. As one of the first acts of Reconstruction, President Andrew Johnson ordered all land under federal control to be returned to its previous owners."
http://www.history.com/topics/sharecropping
The moral of the story: When you insist on being wrong about documented facts, you're probably wrong about a lot of things.
'When you insist on being wrong about documented facts, you're probably wrong about a lot of things.'

so how goes the Bush apology tour this morning? got any new undocumented 'facts' about how everything Bush screwed up was not his fault?

and i'm surprised that after all the free campaign ads FOX sponsors for GOP politicians that you're not throwing a fit about NBC doing the same. you FOXbots always get mad when NBC acts like FOX. so what's the deal?

Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#960264 Aug 6, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Republicans left the White House in January of 009 with the worst recession in 80 years, a Housing Collapse, a near financial meltdown, doubling the debt, two quagmire wars and the evil Democrats are killing our country.
You people are beyond pathetic.
Oh, did I mention the poverty level has increased, unemployment among minorities is in the two digits, job growth is moving like a snail and 90% of jobs added recently are part-time because of Obamacare?

Before the Democrats said everything was just fine with bad mortgage loans up until the very end, unemployment averaged in the 5% range during Bush's entire two terms.

Since: Aug 13

Overland Park, KS

#960265 Aug 6, 2013
Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama had a Democrat House & Senate his first two years, idiot.
Obama's fraud - his minions (based on his promise) said unemployment would not exceed 8%, try to keep up
Obamacare is a fraud, try to keep up - everyone but you admits it will cost much more than the fraud Obama said.
Al Qaeda leadership has NOT been decimated. When you get back to Earth, check the news about embassies being closed on an unprecedented scale. Try to keep up.
NSA is sharing information and exceeding the limits of what it should be doing. Ask the Associated Press & DEA. Try to keep up.
You are a liar and an idiot, 2008Bill.
You are wrong. President Obama did not have the senate. Al Franken was not seated until July of 2009 because his election results was challenged. Sen. Ted Kennedy died in August of 2009. These two events denied President Obama the filibuster proof majority.

The leadership of the original Al Qaeda group headed by Osama Bin Laden has been decimated. Al Qaeda has since branched off into several smaller groups.

How's that for keeping up.

Since: May 11

Shippensburg, PA

#960266 Aug 6, 2013
Waxman wrote:
<quoted text>
Obama had a Democrat House & Senate his first two years, idiot.
Obama's fraud - his minions (based on his promise) said unemployment would not exceed 8%, try to keep up
Obamacare is a fraud, try to keep up - everyone but you admits it will cost much more than the fraud Obama said.
Al Qaeda leadership has NOT been decimated. When you get back to Earth, check the news about embassies being closed on an unprecedented scale. Try to keep up.
NSA is sharing information and exceeding the limits of what it should be doing. Ask the Associated Press & DEA. Try to keep up.
You are a liar and an idiot, 2008Bill.
Congress refused to fund the closing ofGITMO. This is a fact.

The Dec of 2008 Romer Report ( the document you right whiners are evidently too GD stupid to comprehend) said that the stimulus would reduce the peak u employment by 1-2 percent. Some economists predicted a peak of 9% which would make the stimulus keep it under 8%. That report clearly stated that other estimates were out there.

The problem with you is that you are too GD stupid to understand the concepts in that report.

As for Al Qaeda leadership, one senior leadership left. 15 killed under Obama.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/05/opinion/bergen-...

Aren't you getting tired of me proving you wrong all the time???
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#960267 Aug 6, 2013
'Traitor' edit on Snowden's Wikipedia page linked to Senate IP address

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/tech...
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LCN Llin

United States

#960269 Aug 6, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
'When you insist on being wrong about documented facts, you're probably wrong about a lot of things.'
so how goes the Bush apology tour this morning? got any new undocumented 'facts' about how everything Bush screwed up was not his fault?
and i'm surprised that after all the free campaign ads FOX sponsors for GOP politicians that you're not throwing a fit about NBC doing the same. you FOXbots always get mad when NBC acts like FOX. so what's the deal?
As republicans divide and decline they become more shrill
WOW

New York, NY

#960270 Aug 6, 2013
The “New Economy” Is The No Jobs Economy
One of my most popular columns was about escaping from the Matrix existence in which Americans live. It is a world of disinformation and misinformation in which facts are fiction, and abstract theories are substituted for empirical reality.

Official government statistics are make-believe. The government makes inflation and unemployment disappear by how it defines inflation and unemployment, and it makes the economy grow by how it defines Gross Domestic Product. The definitional basis determines the statistical result.

For example, in his report on the official GDP revisions released July 31, John Williams ( shadowstats.com ) writes that “academic theories, often with strong political biases, have been used to alter the GDP model over the years, resulting in “Pollyanna Creep,” where changes made to the series invariably have had the effect of upping near-term economic growth.” In other words, definitional changes produce economic growth whether or not the economy produces economic growth.

Inflation is made to disappear by substituting lower priced items for higher priced items and by defining price rises as quality improvements. Thus, the higher prices don’t count as inflation.

Unemployment disappears by defining discouraged workers who cannot find employment as people who are no longer in the work force. They simply are disappeared out of the ranks of the unemployed. It reminds me of Punjab’s magic blanket in the old cartoon strip,“Little Orphan Annie.” Punjab disposed of problem people by covering them with his blanket, or perhaps it was a rug, and they disappeared.

Despite the absurdity of the government’s data, Wall Street awaits with baited breath each new release to decide whether markets should go up or down or stay the same. In other words, the financial markets themselves take guidance from make believe numbers. In short, capitalism is rudderless. It has no reliable indicators. Everything is rigged to support the Matrix which keeps the population in a stupor.

Certainly the monthly payroll jobs number is misconstrued and has undeserved influence. If the economy is down, a jobs number significantly higher than the approximately 130,000 new jobs required to stay even with population growth is seen as a beacon of recovery. But the number is so distorted, as John Williams explains, by shifting and unstable seasonal adjustments and an average monthly add-on of 52,000 jobs from the “birth-death” model that no one really knows what the number is. Only a statistician like John Williams who is very familiar with the government’s data procedures can make much sense from the official statistics.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#960271 Aug 6, 2013
LCN Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
Bill O funny.
US may need to speed withdrawal from Afghanistan and Islamic countries.
Not worth the bones of one US soldier.
trolls active today ;-)
trolls with no new material.

active may be an overstatement.
Waxman

Windsor, CT

#960272 Aug 6, 2013
Ilkwas wrote:
<quoted text>
You are wrong. President Obama did not have the senate. Al Franken was not seated until July of 2009 because his election results was challenged. Sen. Ted Kennedy died in August of 2009. These two events denied President Obama the filibuster proof majority.
The leadership of the original Al Qaeda group headed by Osama Bin Laden has been decimated. Al Qaeda has since branched off into several smaller groups.
How's that for keeping up.
Love the way you change the rules so not a majority means "super majority".

I said majority, not super majority. I just love the way you weasels spin like crazy. It's impossible to have an honest discussion with you.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#960273 Aug 6, 2013
speaking of no new material...

GOP Rep: I’d Back Birther Bill, Even Though It’s A Distraction

Moments later, when Yoho asked if such an investigation is "really how we should be spending our time," the crowd responded with an emphatic "no."

http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entry/g...

no, you should be spending time on trying to pass legislation that will never pass even though you know it will never pass.

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