Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...

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So you think $16,000 is a reasonable cost to deliver a baby - even by C-section?
How could women afford to have children before HMOs?
I knew you wouldn't answer the question but wander off into bizzaro world.
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What "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" Can Teach Us About Don Lemon's Suggestion That Black People Should Pull Up Their Pants and Pick Up Litter
To much condemnation by "Black Twitter" and other social media, CNN's Don Lemon said that black people could improve their lot in life by following his suggestions and guidelines about their personal comportment and behavior.
Given that the context and prompt for his advice was the murder of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman, Lemon's suggestions are especially noxious.
As an African-American, Lemon is recycling the politics of "black respectability", what is a very old tradition in black life and social thought. He is dead center in the centuries-long tradition of black political thought.
But, he has no appreciation for its nuances.
Lemon's argument, that black folks should pick up litter, pull up their pants, and stop making babies everywhere out of wedlock, reveals a piss poor understanding of the relationship between life chances, institutional racism, political economy, and race in post civil rights America. Lemon is also factually challenged.
Not all of us are properly trained social scientists. That does not render one mute in speaking about issues of American politics, society, and public/private life.
But, given his national and high-profile position, I would expect a bit more from Don Lemon. Maybe he should read a few books and articles by serious people such as William Julius Wilson, Sudhir Venkatesh, Cathy Cohen, Mary Patillo, John Jackson, Joseph Stiglitz, Michelle Alexander, Elijah Anderson, Mario Small, and others before offering up his half-processed folksy wisdom from the barbershop tailor made for public (white) consumption about black poverty, race, and upward mobility? I dare to dream.
Alas, Don Lemon is part of a long tradition of public scolding by African-Americans against "deviants" in their own community, one which recycles white racism under the guise of "black tough love". History suggests that Don Lemon has much good company in this very profitable public performance: a book is no doubt forthcoming; there will be a speaking tour too.
Don Lemon proudly proclaimed that he is going to be an Uncle Tom. Who am I to interfere with a man's dreams?
http://www.chaunceydevega.com/2013/07/what-it...
This reaction is why the black community remains in poverty, failures regardless of government assistance.
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Start With the Man in the Mirror, Don Lemon
The CNN anchor's "tough talk" fails to reflect what's really going on in the black community.
What Lemon did on his show -- wagging his finger at all the pants-sagging, littering, unwed high school dropouts -- was a mutation of truth telling. He was nothing more than a tattletale, pointing excitedly to all the things his brothers and sisters are doing wrong in the hopes of what? A reward? A pat on the back? A seat at Bill O'Reilly's table?
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lolololololhahahahaha dont show WHITE PEOPLE YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY lololololhaahahahahah BIGOTS RACISTS lololololhahahaha GET EM CNN lololol OBAMA lolololhahaha LIBERALS putting darkie in check for HILLARY hahahahaha lolololol SAME SCRIPT ELECTION SEASON IS HERE AGAIN lololololol NOW THE BLACKMAN GOES UNDER THE BUS lolololol THE WHITEMAN WENT UNDER THE BUS FOR OBAMA NOW THE BLACKMAN GOES UNDER THE BUS FOR HILLARY hahahahahaha ROLL OVER

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Let's see...
Providing food and buying their oil. Oh, yeah. I can see where that would piss them off.
Installing the Shah. Let's count the bodies from the Shah's era and compare that to the mountain of corpses the mullahs stacked up. Yeah. I can see where not letting a murderous horde take over a country would piss them off. Let's count the middle class Iranians in universities here and in Europe when the Shah ran Iran, and compare that to the number of middle class Iranians being educated in western universities today. Yeah. I can see where educating the population would piss them off.
"targetted by Islam"
Let's take a look at where Islam borders the rest of the world and compare that with your idiocy. How about we start with Morocco.
Morocco sends terrorists into Spain.
Algeria is separated from the rest of the world by the Mediterranean Sea.
Lybia is a source for international terrorists.
Egypt is routinely at war with Israel.
The entire border of Israel is a war zone.
Lebanon is a war zone.
They had to build a wall across Cyprus to separate the Islamists from everyone else.
The Balkans.
No war across the Black Sea.
Georgia and Daghestan.
No war across the Caspian Sea.
Iran...
Afghanistan...
Pakistan is at war with India routinely.
No war across the Indian Ocean.
You fucking idiots don't see that Islam finds some reason to be at war with every goddam thing it is in contact with.
The only reason they are at war with us is we exist. If we didn't exist, they would be at war with whatever other country occupied our place in the world, which is superior to their place, which is the real reason Islam is at war with everything it is in contact with.
I know y'all have a problem with perspective. Perspective is fundamental to International Relations. You look at everything from a US-centric perspective and the rest of the world has their own. You're not the only one, Carol's one of the worst. Everything is viewed from a late-20th Century, middle-class, white, american, female perspective.

That's pretty narrow.

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Recently heard a Muslim Middle Eastern expert explain that most radical Islamists are uneducated and can't read. The only way they can feel relevant in today's world is through violence and terrorism.
Made a lot of sense to me.
And somehow they managed to gain control of the Arab world.
Yes, my observations from living there are similar. They are sufficiently numerous to propel the powers that be there into power.
The Wahhabists have regained control of everything they lost after 9/11(2001), and added to that.
I was not too surprised when the army in Egypt threw the Muslim Brotherhood out on its ass. It was the Muslim Brotherhood inside the Egyptian army that assassinated Sadat. After that the Egyptian army was thoroughly purged of them.
It's ironic, but the best hope for a republican form of government in Egypt is the army there. The Muslim Brotherhood had only one thing in mind, to eliminate any other faction. That's why the Egyptian army stepped in.
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Reza Aslan, Fox News, and Bulverism

You’ve probably seen a clip of it already: Fox News aired a cringe-worthy interview of the author of the latest Jesus tell-all book on Friday, much to the delight of many on the internet. In the now-viral interview, Fox News anchor and religion correspondent Lauren Green shows zero interest in the arguments or content of scholar Reza Aslan’s new book Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth.

Instead, she leads off the interview with “You’re a Muslim, so why did you write a book about the founder of Christianity?” Aslan’s eyebrows threaten to rise right off of his face, but he comports himself honorably in a painful ten-minute conversation that never moves past this misguided line of questioning:“It still begs the question though, why would you be interested in the founder of Christianity?”

But even if Green’s line of questioning weren’t laced with xenophobia, ignorant about the purpose of scholarship, or breathtakingly incurious, it would still be problematic. There is a deeper philosophical problem behind focusing on the fact that Aslan is a Muslim.

Let’s suppose for the sake of argument the following: Reza Aslan brings personal biases and prejudices from his Muslim faith to his study of the historical Jesus; the liberal media is breathlessly excited by Aslan’s book, even though it merely rehashes debates that have been going on in historical Jesus studies for decades, because that media tends to be hostile to traditional Christian faith.

In fact, there may very well be reason to believe those things. But to think that they have anything to do with the merits of Aslan’s arguments about Jesus is to engage in a logical fallacy that C.S. Lewis called Bulverism. He explains:

You must show that a man is wrong before you start explaining why he is wrong. The modern method is to assume without discussion that he is wrong and then distract his attention from this (the only real issue) by busily explaining how he became so silly… Assume that your opponent is wrong, and explain his error, and the world will be at your feet. Attempt to prove that he is wrong or (worse still) try to find out whether he is wrong or right, and the national dynamism of our age will thrust you to the wall.

Bulverism a great way to score points while getting no closer to the truth, and it comprises perhaps 95% of writing about religion on the internet.

If you’re actually interested in Zealot, you shouldn’t care about Aslan, or Fox, but about the man from Galilee: what was he like? what did he teach? was he the Christ? If you’re looking for answers to that question, Aslan’s Muslim faith, Fox’s hostility, and any number of dreary facts about America’s cultural grievances are strictly irrelevant.

Textual criticism and and historical methodology can be boring and hard. Questioning motives and feigning outrage is always fun and easy, and serves as a particularly shallow way for people to engage in intellectual triage. That’s why interesting subjects only suffer when they get dragged into the culture wars.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/bulver...
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Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Yet they do don't they? Sex is the poor mans opera.
Can't help those who cannot help themselves.

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His philosophy on life is easy enough to understand. He's somewhere between a leech and a sponge.
So, this is why Ronald Reagan was a 'leech and a sponge' He never said anything original and took advantage of other peoples misfortune to advance his own political career. You can see the proof in his 1980 Presidential campaign that started off in Philadelphia, Mississippi(the place where three civil rights workers in the Mississippi Summer Project of 1964-two Jews and a Black, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, and James Chaney-had been murdered). Reagan wasn't there to support civil rights ,but side with the states rights to remain racially segregated. Reagan's visit to Bitburg Cemetery ( the place where many Nazis SS members were buried) further revealed his moral callousness.

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<quoted text> You just forgot your hero Dumbwaiter said Islam, not radical Islam.
It was understood. But you go ahead and chase another squirrel up the wrong tree.
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I recently had to have an emergent appendectomy. The surgeon's fee alone was over $5000. The hospital bill for a two-night stay was almost the same. Fortunately, we have good insurance through my husband's employer and the surgeon and most of the hospital bill was paid in full.
But what if we didn't have good insurance or didn't have $10,000 just laying around just to take out my appendix?
When does one's expertise cross the line into exploiting and abusing a broken system?
It would seem $5000 would be more than compensatory for both the surgeon's expertise and the two-night hospital stay.
Hospitals are raking in the dough hand-over-fist. Insurance companies have to pay the crux of this medical scam and why medical insurance is so friggin' unaffordable for a lot of people.
How much were the surgeon and the hospital actually paid?

How much is your life worth?

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SPEs have been utilized for years.
But hey, you are progressing. No longer blaming the CRA. Now you are blaming the institutions who bundled bad loans & bought AAA credit ratings for them. Now, if you only could understand that all sub prime mortgages were not CRA.
Really? Care to back your bullshit up? Tell us the history of SPEs being used to get fraudulent ratings applied to real estate traunches.

You haven't told us what a Special Purpose Vehicle is yet, dumbass.
Tell us what it is.

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So you think $16,000 is a reasonable cost to deliver a baby - even by C-section?
How could women afford to have children before HMOs?
Many women couldn't afford it. Pregnant women and infant mortality rates were high.
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I know y'all have a problem with perspective. Perspective is fundamental to International Relations. You look at everything from a US-centric perspective and the rest of the world has their own. You're not the only one, Carol's one of the worst. Everything is viewed from a late-20th Century, middle-class, white, american, female perspective.
That's pretty narrow.
DB need to open a book or take a post high school class in history?
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You really don't know much, do you? If you don't know the Al Sharptons and Jesse Jacksons of this world make a killing on keeping racial division alive and well, you're sounding a lot like Homer Simpson.
Those two are no different than Glenda Beck and others in right wing media who's only real talent is stirring up sht among clowns like you who possess a flea market view of politics.

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The arrogant tribal chieftain taking care of his own hood is Boehner.
Obama can't legislate...that's the job of Congress.
Executive Order and Executive Privilege are the hallmarks of the Jerk-In-Chief. And buying votes from the electorate and from business.

Get real.
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a lot of white bigots.
so who really cares what they care about?
and for you to act like the opinion of black folks on the matter are of no consequence speaks loudly to your acknowledgment that FOX is a racist hotbed.
Nobody cares if you people sit around wallowing in self-pity instead of getting off your butts.

When racists like Al Sharpton speak, the world knows the opposite is true.

By the way, how can you fools let that hustler become your leader?
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$100 million wasted in Africa, next up Martha's Vineyard for the AA couple.
Ignorance run in your family or is it only YOU?

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<quoted text>So, this is why Ronald Reagan was a 'leech and a sponge' He never said anything original and took advantage of other peoples misfortune to advance his own political career. You can see the proof in his 1980 Presidential campaign that started off in Philadelphia, Mississippi(the place where three civil rights workers in the Mississippi Summer Project of 1964-two Jews and a Black, Andrew Goodman, Michael Schwerner, and James Chaney-had been murdered). Reagan wasn't there to support civil rights ,but side with the states rights to remain racially segregated. Reagan's visit to Bitburg Cemetery ( the place where many Nazis SS members were buried) further revealed his moral callousness.
And that explains why Ronal Reagan is so often quoted.
The rest of your rant is probably about as accurate as your first two sentences.
You're so nuts, I'm expecting a monkey to pick you out of a tree to eat you any minute.

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a lot of white bigots.
so who really cares what they care about?
and for you to act like the opinion of black folks on the matter are of no consequence speaks loudly to your acknowledgment that FOX is a racist hotbed.
You are so obviously confused it's difficult to respond sometimes.

"Uncle Tom" is a derogatory term used only by black liberals to describe black conservatives or any black person they deem a traitor to keep the race issue alive and well by blaming whites.

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This reaction is why the black community remains in poverty, failures regardless of government assistance.
The question is why the wealthiest Americans keep getting richer despite their cries that higher taxes are making them poorer. Why are the rich lying?

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