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Since: Jun 13

Orlando, FL

#944870 Jul 15, 2013
NJ raider 1 wrote:
<quoted text>When you direct something my way, talk commonsense because, I'm not democrat or republican. Blanco, Bush, & Nagin all botched Katrina so stop trying to put it off on one party!
Well, see, you need to get your facts right first.

Blanco botched Katrina by delaying a decision - by law - to allow the federal government to send in an ARMED National Guard.

Bush was not going to send in an unarmed National Guard to rescue victims, some of whom were locked and loaded.

Blanco tried to dodge the bullet by blaming Bush because blaming Bush had become a liberal pastime and people like you are gullible.

In the words of the Apollo astronauts, Blanco "screwed the pooch".
Jane Says

New York, NY

#944871 Jul 15, 2013
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Just a little more nauseated...being on the same planet as you already makes my skin crawl. You're already dead and totally soulless.
the bed bugs probably don't help either.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#944872 Jul 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
How did Martin know Zimmerman was " security"
Was his vehicle marked? No
Was Zimmerman wearing a uniform? No
A marked jacket? No
Did he identify himself as security? No
Zimmerman made several mistakes that led to the death of Martin.
To anyone but Zimmerman, he was nothing but a stranger following a kids in the dark.
I guess you have a point-everyone needs to wear a uniform in order for you to know what everyone is doing. If that is really how you feel then Martin should have had a "kicked out of School" Hoodie on with an "I am black and considered mentally unstable by my school that kicked me out" on the front. Certainly that would have helped. Good point.

“It's always darkest 'fore dawn”

Since: Jul 08

When's dawn?

#944873 Jul 15, 2013
Fenris the Big Bad Wolf wrote:
<quoted text>
PS retard; I remember the pics you are talking about. Me next to my boat, and then the one of Luke's brother-in-law (who works for the DEA). The only thing in common with those two was we are both big muscular dudes; nothing more.
Crack making your memory fail (or is it the impending years)??:-)
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahah ahahahaha! I didn't say which poster, you f*ckin' fool. Just like Zimmerman, your a flailing, failing, flaccid, flabby little excuse for a man, and I have better places to be.(Why don't you post some more pictures of dead kids and see if you can get some other female attention...it's the only way you could.)

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#944874 Jul 15, 2013
Eman wrote:
<quoted text>
Zimmerman is a minority.
Just keep mentioning to the Hispanics that O'bama and the democrats hate them. I would like to know what Zimmerman's mother's maiden name is--because if it is Alverez or Garcia--- there is the way to fight the war on Hispanics by the democrat party.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#944875 Jul 15, 2013
Who screamed. Who was stronger. Who called whom what and when and why are all details to warm the heart of a cable news producer with 24 hours to fill. Strip them all away and the truth remains that Martin's heart would still be beating if Zimmerman had not chased him down and shot him.

There is no doubt about who the aggressor was here. It appears that the only reason the two interacted at all, physically or otherwise, is that Zimmerman believed it was his civic duty to apprehend an innocent teenager who caused suspicion by his existence alone.

Appeals for calm in the wake of such a verdict raise the question of what calm there can possibly be in a place where such a verdict is possible. Parents of black boys are not likely to feel calm. Partners of black men are not likely to feel calm. Children with black fathers are not likely to feel calm. Those who now fear violent social disorder must ask themselves whose interests are served by a violent social order in which young black men can be thus slain and discarded.

But while the acquittal was shameful it was not a shock.

It took more than six weeks after Martin's death for Zimmerman to be arrested and only then after massive pressure both nationally and locally. Those who dismissed this as a political trial (a peculiar accusation in the summer of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden) should bear in mind that it was politics that made this case controversial.

Charging Zimmerman should have been a no-brainer. He was not initially charged because Florida has a "stand your ground" law whereby deadly force is permitted if the person "reasonably believes" it is necessary to protect their own life, the life of another or to prevent a forcible felony.

Since it was Zimmerman who stalked Martin, the question remains: what ground is a young black man entitled to and on what grounds may he defend himself? What version of events is there for that night in which Martin gets away with his life? Or is it open season on black boys after dark?

Zimmerman's not guilty verdict will be contested for years to come. But he passed judgement on Trayvon that night summarily.

"Fucking punks," Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that night. "These assholes. They always get away."

So true it's painful. And so predictable it hurts.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/15/1223...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#944876 Jul 15, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>Well, one in the chamber says a lot.
....and cops don't?

Useless for self-defense otherwise.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#944877 Jul 15, 2013
OBAMA the GENIUS wrote:
T lived in the neighborhood!
He had every right to be there!
That is why everyone is so upset.
Wake up battty! Wake up!
........
<quoted text>
Go throw your rocks at the Hispanics that actually lived in the neighborhood. O'bama and the democrats hate hispanics. Martin didn't live there--what school was he going to?
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#944878 Jul 15, 2013
On Saturday night, a Florida jury of six women found George Zimmerman not guilty of any crime in the shooting death of a black teenager named Trayvon Martin. Not murder. Not even manslaughter. A lot of people are having a hard time accepting this verdict, given that Zimmerman was armed with a pistol and Martin was not, and a police dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow Martin, and he did it anyway.

It doesn't help that the same prosecutor who lost the Zimmerman case recently won a conviction against Marissa Alexander, a black woman who fired a warning shot to chase off her abusive ex-husband, hurting no one. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Twenty years for a warning shot against a known abuser versus no time at all for killing an unarmed teenager leaves you scratching your head and wondering if justice is not just blind but also insane.

http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/fe...
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#944879 Jul 15, 2013
“What if it was Trayvon Martin who shot and killed George Zimmerman? What would your verdict be?,” Guy asked.“That’s how you know it’s not about race.”

Whether we want to admit it or not, we know the answer to Guy’s question. If the verdict would be guilty for Trayvon if he were the accused murderer then it must be the same for Zimmerman. Now, we wait to see if the jury agrees.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-part...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#944880 Jul 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
By not arresting Zimmerman, the police chief assumed the job of judge & jury.
Zimmerman may have lucked out in this trial but in civil court, he will lose.
Zimmerman broke the rules of Neighborhood Watch. He & the housing association will both be sued & both lose.
If Dumbass Dave runs down a kid who darts between two parked cars, should Dumbass Dave be arrested and prosecuted regardless of any evidence?
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#944881 Jul 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Who screamed. Who was stronger. Who called whom what and when and why are all details to warm the heart of a cable news producer with 24 hours to fill. Strip them all away and the truth remains that Martin's heart would still be beating if Zimmerman had not chased him down and shot him.
There is no doubt about who the aggressor was here. It appears that the only reason the two interacted at all, physically or otherwise, is that Zimmerman believed it was his civic duty to apprehend an innocent teenager who caused suspicion by his existence alone.
Appeals for calm in the wake of such a verdict raise the question of what calm there can possibly be in a place where such a verdict is possible. Parents of black boys are not likely to feel calm. Partners of black men are not likely to feel calm. Children with black fathers are not likely to feel calm. Those who now fear violent social disorder must ask themselves whose interests are served by a violent social order in which young black men can be thus slain and discarded.
But while the acquittal was shameful it was not a shock.
It took more than six weeks after Martin's death for Zimmerman to be arrested and only then after massive pressure both nationally and locally. Those who dismissed this as a political trial (a peculiar accusation in the summer of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden) should bear in mind that it was politics that made this case controversial.
Charging Zimmerman should have been a no-brainer. He was not initially charged because Florida has a "stand your ground" law whereby deadly force is permitted if the person "reasonably believes" it is necessary to protect their own life, the life of another or to prevent a forcible felony.
Since it was Zimmerman who stalked Martin, the question remains: what ground is a young black man entitled to and on what grounds may he defend himself? What version of events is there for that night in which Martin gets away with his life? Or is it open season on black boys after dark?
Zimmerman's not guilty verdict will be contested for years to come. But he passed judgement on Trayvon that night summarily.
"Fucking punks," Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that night. "These assholes. They always get away."
So true it's painful. And so predictable it hurts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/15/1223...
Are you trying to say that "Blacks are eight times more likely to commit robbery"???

It's the culture...

“Often imitated”

Since: Jul 07

never duplicated

#944882 Jul 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Who screamed. Who was stronger. Who called whom what and when and why are all details to warm the heart of a cable news producer with 24 hours to fill. Strip them all away and the truth remains that Martin's heart would still be beating if Zimmerman had not chased him down and shot him.
There is no doubt about who the aggressor was here. It appears that the only reason the two interacted at all, physically or otherwise, is that Zimmerman believed it was his civic duty to apprehend an innocent teenager who caused suspicion by his existence alone.
Appeals for calm in the wake of such a verdict raise the question of what calm there can possibly be in a place where such a verdict is possible. Parents of black boys are not likely to feel calm. Partners of black men are not likely to feel calm. Children with black fathers are not likely to feel calm. Those who now fear violent social disorder must ask themselves whose interests are served by a violent social order in which young black men can be thus slain and discarded.
But while the acquittal was shameful it was not a shock.
It took more than six weeks after Martin's death for Zimmerman to be arrested and only then after massive pressure both nationally and locally. Those who dismissed this as a political trial (a peculiar accusation in the summer of Bradley Manning and Edward Snowden) should bear in mind that it was politics that made this case controversial.
Charging Zimmerman should have been a no-brainer. He was not initially charged because Florida has a "stand your ground" law whereby deadly force is permitted if the person "reasonably believes" it is necessary to protect their own life, the life of another or to prevent a forcible felony.
Since it was Zimmerman who stalked Martin, the question remains: what ground is a young black man entitled to and on what grounds may he defend himself? What version of events is there for that night in which Martin gets away with his life? Or is it open season on black boys after dark?
Zimmerman's not guilty verdict will be contested for years to come. But he passed judgement on Trayvon that night summarily.
"Fucking punks," Zimmerman told the police dispatcher that night. "These assholes. They always get away."
So true it's painful. And so predictable it hurts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/07/15/1223...
The zimmerman case just shows how stupid the l.l.w. really are.
WOW

Bronx, NY

#944883 Jul 15, 2013
Six Conversion Techniques
Cults and human-potential organizations are always looking for new converts. To attain them, they must also create a brain-phase. And they often need to do it within a short space of time--a weekend, or maybe even a day. The following are the six primary techniques used to generate the conversion.
Isolation Intimidation, Deprivation and Indoctrination
The meeting or training takes place in an area where participants are cut off from the outside world. This may be any place: a private home, a remote or rural setting, or even a hotel ballroom where the participants are allowed only limited bathroom usage. In human-potential trainings, the controllers will give a lengthy talk about the importance of "keeping agreements" in life. The participants are told that if they don't keep agreements, their life will never work. It's a good idea to keep agreements, but the controllers are subverting a positive human value for selfish purposes. The participants vow to themselves and their trainer that they will keep their agreements. Anyone who does not will be intimidated into agreement or forced to leave. The next step is to agree to complete training, thus assuring a high percentage of conversions for the organizations.
The "Sell It By Zealot" Technique
Before the gathering is complete, the agreements will be used to ensure that the new converts go out and find new participants. They are intimidated into agreeing to do so before they leave. Since the importance of keeping agreements is so high on their priority list, the converts will twist the arms of everyone they know, attempting to talk them into attending a free introductory session offered at a future date by the organization. The new converts are zealots. In fact, the inside term for merchandising the largest and most successful human-potential training is, "sell it by zealot!"
At least a million people are graduates and a good percentage have been left with a mental activation button that assures their future loyalty and assistance if the guru figure or organization calls. Think about the potential political implications of hundreds of thousands of zealots programmed to campaign for their guru.
Be wary of an organization of this type that offers follow-up sessions after the seminar. Follow-up sessions might be weekly meetings or inexpensive seminars given on a regular basis which the organization will attempt to talk you into taking--or any regularly scheduled event used to maintain control. As the early Christian revivalists found, long-term control is dependent upon a good follow-up system.
Wearing Down Resistance
Alright. Now, let's look at the second tip-off that indicates conversion tactics are being used. A schedule is maintained that causes physical and mental fatigue. This is primarily accomplished by long hours in which the participants are given no opportunity for relaxation or reflection.
Increasing Tension
The third tip-off: techniques used to increase the tension in the room or environment.
Introducing Uncertainty About Identity
Number four: Uncertainty. I could spend hours relating various techniques to increase tension and generate uncertainty. Basically, the participants are concerned about being "put on the spot" or encountered by the trainers, guilt feelings are played upon, participants are tempted to verbally relate their innermost secrets to the other participants or forced to take part in activities that emphasize removing their masks. One of the most successful human-potential seminars forces the participants to stand on a stage in front of the entire audience while being verbally attacked by the trainers. A public opinion poll, conducted a few years ago, showed that the number one most-fearful situation an individual could encounter is to speak to an audience. It ranked above window washing outside the 85th floor of an office building.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#944885 Jul 15, 2013
Armed Racial Entitlement: Zimmerman’s Acquittal Comes as No Surprise

Even in the 21st century it appears that the mere fact that a murder victim is black is enough to generate reasonable doubt in the minds of a mostly white jury. Many voices will argue that the Zimmerman case is not about race. Those voices of “post-racialism” will accuse Trayvon Martin’s defenders of playing the race card. They will insist that the system works, although for black people it really never has worked. We live in a nation of armed racial entitlement, where white people can shoot black people and stand a reasonable chance of being acquitted on the grounds that they were acting out of fear or for self-defense, even when their black victim is unarmed.

In 2012 alone, at least 136 unarmed black men and women were killed by police officers, security guards or vigilantes. While some of the unarmed victims were suspects in crimes, many were not. At least twenty-five unarmed African-Americans were killed by vigilantes. Ten of the killers were not charged at all. That means that in 2012, forty percent of vigilantes who killed an unarmed black person were not charged with any crime. Others like Zimmerman were eventually charged but not convicted, and some plead guilty to reduced charges. In short, if you kill an unarmed African-American in the United States, you have about a 50/50 shot at getting away with murder.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/14/armed-...
WOW

Bronx, NY

#944887 Jul 15, 2013
the FAMILY of TRAYVON MARTIN FEELS HIS loss more than EVERYONE because when the protests and riots are over she still feels the loss of her son while the protesters and rioters are agenda driven so are the zimmerman supporters the finger pointers
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#944888 Jul 15, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>If he'd been arrested immediately on some charge, even a minor one the case would never had made the national news. Instead, Zimmerman was treated as a friend of law enforcement and sent home after a cursory interview hours before the body was identified.
Martin's parents have already settled out of court with the HOA's insurer for a rumored figure of just under $1 mil.
It will be difficult for Martin's family to sue Zimmerman in Florida Civil Court and it's doubtful that the DOJ will pursue civil rights violations___just interesting TV talk.
Zimmerman's wife still faces a perjury charge for lying about their finances.
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Dumbass used car dealer Realtime obviously does not realize that people cannot be arrested without probable cause, clearly lacking in this case.

The perjury job is a joke, just another example of malicious prosecution and intimidation.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#944889 Jul 15, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
On Saturday night, a Florida jury of six women found George Zimmerman not guilty of any crime in the shooting death of a black teenager named Trayvon Martin. Not murder. Not even manslaughter. A lot of people are having a hard time accepting this verdict, given that Zimmerman was armed with a pistol and Martin was not, and a police dispatcher told Zimmerman not to follow Martin, and he did it anyway.
It doesn't help that the same prosecutor who lost the Zimmerman case recently won a conviction against Marissa Alexander, a black woman who fired a warning shot to chase off her abusive ex-husband, hurting no one. She was sentenced to 20 years in prison for aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Twenty years for a warning shot against a known abuser versus no time at all for killing an unarmed teenager leaves you scratching your head and wondering if justice is not just blind but also insane.
http://www.slate.com/articles/life/florida/fe...
Kruidbos, who testified in a pretrial hearing in the Zimmerman case in June, said that he had reason to believe that additional information found in Trayvon Martin's cell phone had not been turned over to the defense.

Kruidbos said more than 2,000 photos from the phone were not shown to defense attorneys, including pictures of underage naked girls, images showing piles of jewelry on Martin's bed and photos of Martin blowing smoke.

Other items taken from Martin's phone included text-message discussions of drugs and pictures of a gun and marijuana plants.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/26/justice/florida...

It's the culture...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#944890 Jul 15, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>
Martin's parents have already settled out of court with the HOA's insurer for a rumored figure of just under $1 mil.
"...movin' on up"
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#944892 Jul 15, 2013
Jane Says wrote:
<quoted text>and do you think the First Lady of the USA can read cursive? talk about poster child of affirmative action. written in 2008:
...This resentment is especially puzzling as it often comes from people who, far from being victims, have actually enjoyed benefits and privileges that they would probably never get if they happened to be white.
Consider the case of Michelle Obama. She was raised in a two-parent, middle-class family. She applied to one of America's top universities, Princeton, and was admitted. Of this experience, Michelle says on the stump, "All my life I have confronted people who had a certain expectation of me. Every step of the way, there has been people telling me what I couldn't do. When I applied to Princeton, they said: you can't go there, your test scores aren't high enough."
Which is all very moving, except that her test scores weren't high enough. Michelle Obama is part of the affirmative action generation of above-average but far-from-stellar performers who were granted preferential admission to America's most elite institutions.
Michelle notes that she graduated with honors in her major. Again, the problem is that her undergraduate thesis is on the web. You might expect that she wrote about Shakespeare's sonnets or the political evolution of W.E.B. Du Bois. Well, no. Essentially Michelle Obama wrote about the problems of being a black woman at an Ivy League university.
Here is a typical passage: "By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desparation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."
Alas, the grammar is all wrong here. More than once, the tenses are garbled. People are ignorant "of" the plight of the lower class, not ignorant "to" their plight. And"desparation" should be spelled "desperation." To wreak so much havoc on the English language in one sentence, without conveying anything of substance, is perhaps deserving of a prize. Is this what her professors were thinking when they granted her honors? Whatever the Obamorons say, let's remember that that these are not mere typos; they reflect an estranged relationship to the English language. Moreover they appear not in an off-the-cuff transcript but in a thesis that is supposed to reflect the culmination of one's college career.
Subsequently Michelle went on to further appointments and even managed to cash in big time on her skin color and marriage to Barack Obama. She was hired by the University of Chicago hospitals to run "programs for community relations, neighborhood outrecah, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity, and minority contracting." Here her salary was $400,000 a year.
One might expect that the reaction of someone who gets so many privileges to be grateful to a society that makes them possible. But no. Michelle Obama thinks that her very success is an example of white oppression. By a bizarre twist of logic, she converts "you're not good enough, but we'll take you anyway" into a message of "they said I wasn't good enough, but I proved them wrong."
Ordinarily these psychological peculiarities may be of little interest, except perhaps to a therapist. But Michelle now stands next to a man that may be elected president of the United States. Barack Obama wants everyone to "lay off" his wife. He doesn't seem to realize that this is not a reasonable request concerning a woman who clearly influences him and who stands to have public influence in her own right. Moreover, for months the media has been laying off her precisely because she is his wife. Like Michelle, Obama seems to confuse preferential treatment with ill treatment....
Moochelle's thesis is a sophomoric piece of crap, not even a good high school term paper.

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