Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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Since: Dec 12

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#931639 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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You are not quoting an article from the Guardian but a free comment from a reader. Get it together with your sources
"Ownership Society" news to you too?

Its always news to Carol no matter how many times she's read or heard about it.

Its gotta be some form of dementia.

You can get information about it from W. Bush's White House website if you don't like the Guardian.

http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/ne...

"American Dream Downpayments" That's one of my favorites from the Party of "less-government, less spending".

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#931640 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Yep, you are a Progressive. Off topic and spinning.
I will not stay in a country with a failing economy with little hope of improvement due to extremely high unemployment secondary to allowing an influx of immigrants it cannot support.
Me neither. And I invested out in the Clinton admin. Anyone that had a clue had to see this was never going to end well. I traveled all over the country at that time and could not believe the amount of housing and businesses popping up in a weeks' time. I kept asking "who is buying these houses"? where are all the people coming from? Why is this happening? I was just a working schmuck then with a good job-so I started investing out of the country-because like I said-this was never going end well.
LNC Llin

United States

#931641 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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"National security could not have possibly been a reason to lie to us and the rest of the world about a terrorist attack that left four Americans dead."
Right, also probably not enough to swing an election. You ascribe your paranoid motives to any action then in your "reasonable" mind your assumptions become fact.
Yep, that's how "reasonable" works!
Republicans may have lost the Presidential election in 2012 for reasons connected to internal division within the GOP.
Benghazi attack does not seem a turning point, has become an issue after the election.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#931642 Jun 25, 2013
LNC Llin wrote:
Are President G H W Bush and President George W Bush advising President Obama?
The Presidents Club: Inside the World's Most Exclusive Fraternity by Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy
The Presidents Club, established at Dwight Eisenhower’s inauguration by Harry Truman and Herbert Hoover, is a complicated place: its members are bound forever by the experience of the Oval Office and yet are eternal rivals for history’s favor. Among their secrets: How Jack Kennedy tried to blame Ike for the Bay of Pigs. How Ike quietly helped Reagan win his first race in 1966. How Richard Nixon conspired with Lyndon Johnson to get elected and then betrayed him. How Jerry Ford and Jimmy Carter turned a deep enmity into an alliance. The unspoken pact between a father and son named Bush. And the roots of the rivalry between Clinton and Barack Obama.
Time magazine editors and presidential historians Nancy Gibbs and Michael Duffy offer a new and revealing lens on the American presidency, exploring the club as a hidden instrument of power that has changed the course of history.
Interesting.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931643 Jun 25, 2013
Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act ruled unconstitutional by Supreme Court

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#931644 Jun 25, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> You think that the affluent Chicago town of Park Ridge with an estimated population of 37,000 is an example of Galt's 'Big Government at your service'? That's like saying miniature poodles are the most vicious attack dogs.
It is. Big Government in small cities is disgusting. Park Ridge taxes at a huge rate to pay for big government in a small town.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#931645 Jun 25, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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What about the wishes of the developing human being the "mother" created by her decision not to have protected sex?
Women should have the right to kill the life they, themselves, created even when birth control is easily accessible and creating an unwanted baby is easily avoidable?
The percentage of those who are pro-choice has dropped from 47% to 41%. I believe it's going to shrink even further.
Now that birth control is free.
The developing fetus is not a human being until it's born.
TheIndependentMa jority

Somerset, KY

#931646 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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so if i post this, i'm using an impeccable source?
Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble
As early as 2006, top advisers to Bush dismissed warnings from people inside and outside the White House that housing prices were inflated and that a foreclosure crisis was looming. And when the economy deteriorated, Bush and his team misdiagnosed the reasons and scope of the downturn. As recently as February, for example, Bush was still calling it a "rough patch."
The result was a series of piecemeal policy prescriptions that lagged behind the escalating crisis.
"There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."
Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.
And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.
"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."
For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.
Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.
"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/wo...
"president's own policies"
and those would not be Clinton's policies as carol needs us to believe.
So, do this mean it awrl Busher admin fawrlt that stoopid people took on more than what they could handle, and that greedy lenders had no problem accomadating them..and that it's awrl they fawrlt too, that the USA was attacked by psychotic terrorist jihadists, as a result of years of mid eastern turmoil, worsened by an oil stealing, kurd depleting rogue dictator that bankrupted his own country, and some islamic jihadist wanna be world renowned psychos...that affronted America with their own issues.

Nope...not ever gonna believe that bullchit.

America needs to tend to it's own business again--and apply some ETHICS while doing it, and to ell with those that just want to curse and abuse us.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931647 Jun 25, 2013
Seven new EPA regulations alone will cost the electrical sector $16.7 billion per year, cause 887,000 job losses
LNC Llin

United States

#931648 Jun 25, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
What about the wishes of the developing human being the "mother" created by her decision not to have protected sex?
Women should have the right to kill the life they, themselves, created even when birth control is easily accessible and creating an unwanted baby is easily avoidable?
The percentage of those who are pro-choice has dropped from 47% to 41%. I believe it's going to shrink even further.
Now that birth control is free.
Yes!
...a difficult moral issue.
Women are going to abort the fetus, legally or illegally ....have done so since colonial times.
In a perfect world there would be No abortions.

Morality is not determined by percentage favoring abortion or opposing abortion?
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931649 Jun 25, 2013
SCOTUS said that Section 4 of the Voting Act written in 1965 is outdated and implacable to today's landscape and needs updated.
lily boca raton fl

Boca Raton, FL

#931650 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Pro-choice respects the wishes of the mother
Pro-life respects the viable infant
The fetus is not an infant until it is born

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#931651 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Why?
"Abortion RIGHTS supporters" would be accurate. Not many people are real supportive of the act of having an abortion, most view it as a trauma.

I'm not necessarily like them, I'm all for voluntary abortion and even voluntary sterilization. As long as there's no coercion involved I think most people who seek an abortion are providing a public service and are looking out for the best interests of an unwanted child.
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#931652 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
<quoted text>
"National security could not have possibly been a reason to lie to us and the rest of the world about a terrorist attack that left four Americans dead."
Right, also probably not enough to swing an election. You ascribe your paranoid motives to any action then in your "reasonable" mind your assumptions become fact.
Yep, that's how "reasonable" works!
Seriously? You can't see that if Obama had admitted to a terrorist attack on the anniversary of 9/11 after announcing to everyone on the campaign trail he personally had al Qaeda on the run because he killed bin Laden that he wouldn't look ridiculous just weeks before the election?

He just looked ridiculous instead after the election because everyone knew he lied to win the election.

That makes a lot of people angry - reasonable people.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#931653 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Pro-choice respects the wishes of the mother
Pro-life respects the viable infant
Where are you on the death penalty?
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931654 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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"Ownership Society" news to you too?
Concentrate.

Comment still stands Sonic was quoting from a comment section not a guardian article.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#931655 Jun 25, 2013
Section 4 of Voting Rights Act unconstitutional
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#931656 Jun 25, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> She's not a mother if she kills the baby.
baby?

and yes, it's up for debate.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931657 Jun 25, 2013
LNC Llin wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes!
...a difficult moral issue.
Women are going to abort the fetus, legally or illegally ....have done so since colonial times.
In a perfect world there would be No abortions.
Morality is not determined by percentage favoring abortion or opposing abortion?
Hmmmm

Interesting comment.

Does morality include those yet born or does it only concern those now living?

What would prevent this from being reduced to just situational ethics?
LNC Llin

United States

#931658 Jun 25, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
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The developing fetus is not a human being until it's born.
In 1973 there was limited fetal medicine.
Roe v Wade decision was issued after many states had passed legislation legalizing abortion.

The issue may come down to who makes the decision to have an abortion.
The woman involved, the woman and her partner, or a state legislature.

If a birth takes place in a late term abortion and the child is killed this is murder.

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