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LNC Llin

United States

#931595 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Media Matters, part of the Soros echo chamber, lives in lala land.
Note lack of anything to back it up while I saw one group post all headlines from media. Rather interesting but not that different from each other.
faux may be lala land as they misinformed the Romney campaign during the 2012 election

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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#931596 Jun 25, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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Actually, no, it didn't. If you had read the entire article, you would have read the cause for the housing market collapse:
"...From homebuyers who put nothing down for a loan, to a White House that bragged about record home ownership, to the Democrats who promoted and protected Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac."
Democrats bragged about home ownership after forcing banks to give loans to "unqualified" buyers in an overpriced housing market by "promoting and protecting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac".
Bush bragged about home ownership by helping "qualified" buyers with a down payment.
I clearly pointed out Bush made mistakes too.
But the Federal Reserve is also to blame by "pushing the monetary accelerator to the floor...even as the tax cuts were passing and the economy took off, Greenspan cut the fed funds rate to 1% and kept it there for a year."
Wall Street was more than happy to be a part of it.
But you conveniently overlooked the part about "Democrats promoting and protecting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac". And you conveniently overlooked the part about the "economy taking off after the Bush tax cuts".
So, basically, you are wrong.
the same old failed meme.

because you see....when your FOX version of the events of the failed Bush years is nowhere to be found in a college textbook, you're just pissing in the wind.
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#931597 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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No idea what video you're talking about but thanks for the belly-laugh. Of course my co-workers are now looking at me funny.
The video that Obama and Hillary claimed created the anti-Muslim sentiments leading to the attack and the murder of the ambassador. The video they talked about for weeks afterwards even though they knew it was a terrorist attack the night it happened.

But thanks for making my point. A reasonable person would have known about the video and a cover up at the highest levels.

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#931598 Jun 25, 2013
LNC Llin wrote:
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Possibly national security was involved :-)
4000 soldiers did not die as a result of this action.
I was wondering if she really was being so.
LNC Llin

United States

#931599 Jun 25, 2013
positronium wrote:
<quoted text>I was wondering if she really was being so.
Takes a few years for the truth to come out.
At the moment all is most likely politics on both sides.
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#931600 Jun 25, 2013
LNC Llin wrote:
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Possibly national security was involved :-)
4000 soldiers did not die as a result of this action.
So you're equating the toppling of Saddam's regime, a clear and present threat post 9/11 which 111 Democrats voted to support, and the President and the Secretary of State covering up a terrorist attack on 9/11 to win an election?

Wow.

National security could not have possibly been a reason to lie to us and the rest of the world about a terrorist attack that left four Americans dead.

Obama claiming to have al Qaeda on the run after taking all the credit in bin Laden's death just weeks before an election is a very good reason, however.

Refusing to believe this would make you unreasonable too.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931601 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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There was a good reason they were being examined. Although we would like to think these citizens groups are as pure as newly fallen snow, the fact is, some Tea Party non-profits were clearly breaking the law.
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/did-th...
When CVFC, a conservative veterans’ group in California, applied for tax-exempt status with the Internal Revenue Service, its biggest expenditure that year was several thousand dollars in radio ads backing a Republican candidate for Congress.
The Wetumpka Tea Party, from Alabama, sponsored training for a get-out-the-vote initiative dedicated to the “defeat of President Barack Obama” while the I.R.S. was weighing its application.
And the head of the Ohio Liberty Coalition, whose application languished with the I.R.S. for more than two years, sent out e-mails to members about Mitt Romney campaign events and organized members to distribute Mr. Romney’s presidential campaign literature.
Representatives of these organizations have cried foul in recent weeks about their treatment by the I.R.S., saying they were among dozens of conservative groups unfairly targeted by the agency, harassed with inappropriate questionnaires and put off for months or years as the agency delayed decisions on their applications.
But a close examination of these groups and others reveals an array of election activities that tax experts and former I.R.S. officials said would provide a legitimate basis for flagging them for closer review.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/27/us/politics...
more stuff you won't hear on FOX.
FNS paranoia in full effect already

Why only after a "close examination" does the NYT than think this is justify? This implies go ahead and 4822 conservative groups than justifying the action after the fact.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931602 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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the same old failed meme.
because you see....when your FOX version of the events of the failed Bush years is nowhere to be found in a college textbook, you're just pissing in the wind.
You are such an idiot! She is quoting from the same Time article Dupont used.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931604 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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If its "about the economy" why has the House been wasting time on an abortion bill that has zero chance in the Senate or for POTUS signature?
I know why. They're using my tax dollars to fund their 2014 campaigns.
Yep, you are a Progressive. Off topic and spinning.

I will not stay in a country with a failing economy with little hope of improvement due to extremely high unemployment secondary to allowing an influx of immigrants it cannot support.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#931605 Jun 25, 2013
What a difference four years makes. In August of 2004, when he was running for re-election, George Bush turned what had been a nebulous idea encompassing various privatisation and investment ideas into a formal objective, releasing a "fact sheet" detailing his policies that would promote this capitalist utopia known as the "ownership society".

More access and choices in healthcare! More home ownership! More tax relief! It was all about getting the American taxpayers' tax dollars back into their pockets where they belonged so they could buy stuff - because, as Bush explained: "If you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country."

Four years later, millions of Americans are now without healthcare, home foreclosures are skyrocketing, bankruptcy is epidemic and the headlines blare "Nightmare on Wall Street" as the country faces the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. The people who were supposed to own a vital stake in America's future by now are lucky if they still own the shirts on their backs.

The ownership society – built on the shoddy foundation of corporate deregulation, unchecked lending, massive deficits and tax cuts during a time of war – has failed.

And its failure is owned by precisely no one.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifam...

conservatives will never own their vote for Bush. if they did, then they'd have to admit that the new guy is better than the old. so we have the carol's of the world trying to tell tall tales so that the failure they voted for, and that they own, was never responsible for his own actions. it was Clinton. it was Congress in 2007. it was, it was, it was....anyone and everyone but the guy they wanted in the WH who screwed the pooch so bad that we now have the perfect POTUS: the guy that right wingers love to hate.
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#931606 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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the same old failed meme.
because you see....when your FOX version of the events of the failed Bush years is nowhere to be found in a college textbook, you're just pissing in the wind.
A study by the National Bureau of Economic Research found that Democrats revamping the CRA led to riskier lending by banks.

"There is a clear pattern of increased defaults for loans made by these banks in quarters around the (CRA) exam. Moreover, the effects are larger for loans made within CRA tracts" or predominantly low-income and minority areas.

http://www.nber.org/papers/w18609

This isn't a big secret.

Since: Dec 12

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#931607 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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Much like Abortion supporters called themselves Pro-Choice rather than Pro-abortion.
Right, that too is more accurate although "abortion supporters" is inaccurate.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#931608 Jun 25, 2013
RealDave wrote:
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Maybe you an explain how the weekly new jobless claims can be 350,000 yet we add jobs over the month.
Do ya think that many people are finding jobs as many are losing them?
You get dumber eery day.
Population growth is around 150,000 a month. You are not creating enough jobs to cover even that, let alone add unemployed people back to the work force. Thus they give up and stop looking.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931609 Jun 25, 2013
LNC Llin wrote:
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faux may be lala land as they misinformed the Romney campaign during the 2012 election
At this point in time your biggest enemy to your Progressive agenda/Obama is the American people.

lily's solution is to call people who disagree traitors. Must be the latest Progressive meme.

Going to jump on the train?
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931611 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
What a difference four years makes. In August of 2004, when he was running for re-election, George Bush turned what had been a nebulous idea encompassing various privatisation and investment ideas into a formal objective, releasing a "fact sheet" detailing his policies that would promote this capitalist utopia known as the "ownership society".
More access and choices in healthcare! More home ownership! More tax relief! It was all about getting the American taxpayers' tax dollars back into their pockets where they belonged so they could buy stuff - because, as Bush explained: "If you own something, you have a vital stake in the future of our country. The more ownership there is in America, the more vitality there is in America, and the more people have a vital stake in the future of this country."
Four years later, millions of Americans are now without healthcare, home foreclosures are skyrocketing, bankruptcy is epidemic and the headlines blare "Nightmare on Wall Street" as the country faces the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. The people who were supposed to own a vital stake in America's future by now are lucky if they still own the shirts on their backs.
The ownership society – built on the shoddy foundation of corporate deregulation, unchecked lending, massive deficits and tax cuts during a time of war – has failed.
And its failure is owned by precisely no one.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifam...
conservatives will never own their vote for Bush. if they did, then they'd have to admit that the new guy is better than the old. so we have the carol's of the world trying to tell tall tales so that the failure they voted for, and that they own, was never responsible for his own actions. it was Clinton. it was Congress in 2007. it was, it was, it was....anyone and everyone but the guy they wanted in the WH who screwed the pooch so bad that we now have the perfect POTUS: the guy that right wingers love to hate.
You are not quoting an article from the Guardian but a free comment from a reader. Get it together with your sources

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#931612 Jun 25, 2013
John Galt wrote:
Big Government at Your Service
NJ couple facing fine over bird feeder
Posted: Jun 24, 2013 5:54 AM PST Updated: Jun 24, 2013 5:56 AM PST
RAMSEY, N.J.(AP)— A New Jersey couple is facing a fine after neighbors complained that their bird feeder is attracting too many animals.
Alfred and Annette Rockefeller are scheduled to appear in court in Ramsey on Tuesday. They could be fined $250 to $500 for violating an ordinance that prohibits feeding wildlife.
Alfred Rockefeller is disabled. The 77-year-old says feeding birds is one of his joys.
Town environmental specialist Leo Egan tells The Record newspaper the wire wreath-style feeder filled with peanuts is drawing ducks, deer, geese, squirrels, chipmunks and groundhogs to the neighborhood. The animals are damaging neighbors' gardens.
Copyright 2013 The Associated Press.
I thought my father in law was arrested again in Hillary Clinton's home town in Illinois. But NJ evidentally has the same problem.
In Illinois the city of Park Ridge, you can't feed the birds-you can't park a pick up truck EVER on the street-but must purchase a city sticker to park in your own drive or garage-you can't put garbage bags filled with leaves to insulate your house in the winter--even though no one can see them-and you certainly can't have lawn chairs on your front lawn.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#931613 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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You are such an idiot! She is quoting from the same Time article Dupont used.
so if i post this, i'm using an impeccable source?

Bush drive for home ownership fueled housing bubble

As early as 2006, top advisers to Bush dismissed warnings from people inside and outside the White House that housing prices were inflated and that a foreclosure crisis was looming. And when the economy deteriorated, Bush and his team misdiagnosed the reasons and scope of the downturn. As recently as February, for example, Bush was still calling it a "rough patch."

The result was a series of piecemeal policy prescriptions that lagged behind the escalating crisis.

"There is no question we did not recognize the severity of the problems," said Al Hubbard, Bush's former chief economic adviser, who left the White House in December 2007. "Had we, we would have attacked them."

Looking back, Keith Hennessey, Bush's current chief economic adviser, said he and his colleagues had done the best they could "with the information we had at the time." But Hennessey did say he regretted that the administration had not paid more heed to the dangers of easy lending practices.

And both Paulson and his predecessor, John Snow, say the housing push went too far.

"The Bush administration took a lot of pride that home ownership had reached historic highs," Snow said during an interview. "But what we forgot in the process was that it has to be done in the context of people being able to afford their house. We now realize there was a high cost."

For much of the Bush presidency, the White House was preoccupied by terrorism and war; on the economic front, its pressing concerns were cutting taxes and privatizing Social Security, a government retirement and disability benefits program. The housing market was a bright spot: Ever-rising home values kept the economy humming, as owners drew down on their equity to buy consumer goods and pack their children off to college.

Lawrence Lindsay, Bush's first chief economic adviser, said there was little impetus to raise alarms about the proliferation of easy credit that was helping Bush meet housing goals.

"No one wanted to stop that bubble," Lindsay said. "It would have conflicted with the president's own policies."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12/21/business/wo...

"president's own policies"

and those would not be Clinton's policies as carol needs us to believe.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931614 Jun 25, 2013
Death of Tenzing wrote:
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Right, that too is more accurate although "abortion supporters" is inaccurate.
Why?

Since: Dec 12

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#931615 Jun 25, 2013
Whatever wrote:
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From the same article Dupont sited
Bill Clinton
"Among his biggest strokes of free-wheeling capitalism was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act, which repealed the Glass-Steagall Act, a cornerstone of Depression-era regulation. He also signed the Commodity Futures Modernization Act, which exempted credit-default swaps from regulation. In 1995 Clinton loosened housing rules by rewriting the Community Reinvestment Act, which put added pressure on banks to lend in low-income neighborhoods. It is the subject of heated political and scholarly debate whether any of these moves are to blame for our troubles, but they certainly played a role in creating a permissive lending environment.
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/ar... #ixzz2XEURoWvl
I know you're relatively new here but it was clear to me that rather than placing ALL the blame on Democrats as Carol would have for the entire history of mankind he correctly points out that Republicans own their share of the blame.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#931616 Jun 25, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
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pro-choice respects the wishes of the mother.
anti-choice respects no one. forcing someone to do what you think is best for that person, on the back of a book that HAS NOT been designated as the national guide to proper behavior, smacks of social engineering.
so in that respect, it's been fairly amusing watching conservatives complain about how government is ruling our life's.
Pro-choice respects the wishes of the mother
Pro-life respects the viable infant

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