Barack Obama, our next President

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"The road ahead will be long. Our climb will be steep," Obama cautioned. Young and charismatic but with little experience on the national level, Obama smashed through racial barriers and easily defeated ...
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John Galt

Temecula, CA

#926125 Jun 17, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>Put the President's popular ratings drop back into context with the even steeper decline in popularity of Congress now at a historically low 7% approval rating. Then, you can think about why Americans don't like the direction that the government has been heading in its quest to go nowhere but to be re-elected to public office and leave real governing management to Big Business and their lobbyists.
Obama is a puppet of Goldman Sachs.

Obama hates managing, much preferring grandstanding, so the arrangement is mutually beneficial.

What's your point?
Scarlet Pimpernel

Bronx, NY

#926126 Jun 17, 2013
Canada’s NSA equivalent, the Communications Security Establishment Canada (CSEC), has, like its better known counterpart south of the border, been scooping up “billions of bits of information transmitted around the world in cyberspace or on airwaves.”[3] Canada, along with the US, Britain, Australia and New Zealand, is part of a signals intelligence community, called the Five Eyes, which spies on the other partners’ citizens and then shares the data with them to circumvent laws prohibiting domestic spying.

These laws allow the major English-speaking capitalist democracies to back up their rhetoric about political freedom, while the cozy sharing arrangement among their electronic surveillance agencies frees them from the inconvenience of actually having to live up to it. And like the NSA, CSEC collects ‘meta-data,’ information on the date, duration, location and recipients of phone calls, e-mails, and text messages transmitted in Canada. Today, rather than having files on only 800,000 of its citizens, the Canadian police state has the raw material to assemble files on the vast majority of them.

Whitaker et al call state surveillance of citizens in liberal democracies political policing, which seems far more legitimate (legitimizing) than the name used to describe (discredit) the same behaviour in communist countries. When Cuban or North Korean officials place their citizens under surveillance, they’re accused of totalitarianism and police state repression, though it seems very unlikely, in light of the Snowden and other revelations, that either state can match the scope of snooping that liberal democracies can use to police their own citizens’ political behaviour.

The term “political policing” in lieu of “police state repression” sanitizes the practice when it happens in liberal capitalist states, and is sanitized again when it is acknowledged that “policing politics….has been done and continues to be done” in every liberal democracy, but that it “is inherently anomalous in liberal democracies.”[4] This, of course, is an oxymoron. Spying on citizens and disrupting the activities of those who challenge the established order can’t be inherently anomalous in liberal democracies if it is done in every one of them. It must, instead, be an invariable trait of liberal democracies.

But then, so too is political policing an invariable trait of every other kind of state. Whether it’s North Korea or Cuba spying on its own citizens, or the United States, Britain and Canada doing the same, in all cases, political policing serves a conservative function of defending the established order against those who would challenge it.“[T]he political police,” argue Whitker et al,“are always on the side of the political/economic status quo….[5]

The difference is that political policing in liberal democracies is “an activist conservatism on behalf of capital against its perceived enemies.”[6] Political policing in East Germany, the Soviet Union, or today in Cuba and North Korea, is likewise an active conservatism, though not on behalf of capital, but against it, and on behalf of capital’s enemies.

It’s naive, then, for anyone in a liberal democracy who poses a serious threat to the established order to believe the state is going to let them be, free to exercise political freedoms that exist largely as a rhetorical contrivance. Challenging the established order is like going to war, and anyone who goes to war and is shocked to discover that the enemy fights back is seriously deluded about war, the state, and the nature of the enemy. All states are police states, including those most attached to rhetoric about political freedom.
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#926127 Jun 17, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
And another point...
Our government today is preparing to fight a large-scale war against the American people. It is a simple deduction that, since it is an undisputable fact the government is preparing for war with the American people, the PRISM spying program is intended to assist the government's unconstitutional action against the American people in its coup attempt to take over the country and eliminate the constitutional republic.
So, obviously, no, PRISM isn't reasonable. It is a tool to increase the number of Americans killed by the government in their rebellion against the constitutional republic.
Well, people have been saying we should start preparing for the worst - people who should know. Marshall Law has been brought up a few times if and when the dollar collapses...more like when.

But I hope not...if that means anything.

“God bless you, Mr. President”

Since: Jul 08

Peaceful, prosperous second

#926128 Jun 17, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>ROTFLMAO!!!!!! Son, you apparently also taught lying.
Has Batty Loo ever explained why with her two "professional" careers she is still depending on SS at 62? Didn't she do any research into that?(And, yes, Yeah, I am being most sarcastic.)
Aunt Bettie Lou

Orlando, FL

#926130 Jun 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
So what's the latest witch hunt?
Obama and the Democrats are in deep doo-doo...if you call that a witch hunt.

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#926131 Jun 17, 2013
LCN Lincoln wrote:
<quoted text>
"Bush isn't president."
Bush republican 2008 Depression and stock market crash are still here.
Bush did NOT attend the convention of his party, for get the name of that party, in 2012. Neither did his father GHW Bush.
2008 economic collapse was caused by the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing mortgage underwriting program. Here's the history, moron:

1999 Clinton coerces Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to institute nation-wide a subprime loan program for people who cannot possibly pay the loans.
2003 the Republicans give to the Democrats no effective oversight of their Marxist subprime program in exchange for the Democrats supporting the war in Iraq.
January, 2007, Democrats take over all oversight of the institutions that were most instrumental in the economic collapse. The lies from Democrats Dodd and Frank after this oversight began are too numerous to list in a post limited to 4000 words.
After 2 years of oversight by Democrats, the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing loan program collapsed the economy.

Now, do you have another question about the recent history of the United States?
Scarlet Pimpernel

Bronx, NY

#926132 Jun 17, 2013
OBAMA the candidate hates OBAMA the PRESIDENT he is everything OBAMA the candidate ran against
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#926133 Jun 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>About time they started building more homes. Realtors around here are complaining of the lack of inventory.
Lack of inventory is a problem here also, but the days of huge developments built on speculation are over.

Builders start only a few homes at a time, and only as fast as they can be sold before completion.

Interest rates are almost sure to increase, which will depress housing prices, although a significant portion of the local market is investors, not first-time homebuyers.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#926134 Jun 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
Tell me about any president we know more about than this one?
All of them.
Scarlet Pimpernel

Bronx, NY

#926135 Jun 17, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
That black flag is a symbol for every Wahhabist terrorists, you moron. It represents world domination by Wahhabism, you dolt.
And, idiot, you need to educate yourself on Wahhabism. Wahhabism and freedom are diametrically opposed.
It is always a dangerous place any place where the Wahhabist terrorists are operating.
Perhaps you can explain to us why we have Wahhabist terrorists in the White House every day, especially since they openly promote being at war with the United States.
... or, was that information not in your last indoctrination session?
So, since the government of Egypt says openly they are at war with the United States, why are we giving them hundreds of billions of dollars worth of arms?
THEy REALLY DONT BELIEVE THE THINGS THEY WRITE they are just ashamed they voted for OBAMA
Buroc Millhouse Obama

Newington, CT

#926136 Jun 17, 2013
leosnana wrote:
<quoted text>Has Batty Loo ever explained why with her two "professional" careers she is still depending on SS at 62? Didn't she do any research into that?(And, yes, Yeah, I am being most sarcastic.)
Really? We thought you were just being the usual Douchebag you are. Better start spell checking!

Here's a typo for you, moran!

“God bless you, Mr. President”

Since: Jul 08

Peaceful, prosperous second

#926137 Jun 17, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, people have been saying we should start preparing for the worst - people who should know. Marshall Law has been brought up a few times if and when the dollar collapses...more like when.
But I hope not...if that means anything.
"Marshall" Law??? What a moran, Batty Loo, did you 'learn' them kiddies that when you were with "George" in the "John" reading a history book? LMAO@U

“Constitutionalis t”

Since: Dec 10

Spring, TX

#926138 Jun 17, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, people have been saying we should start preparing for the worst - people who should know. Marshall Law has been brought up a few times if and when the dollar collapses...more like when.
But I hope not...if that means anything.
Only an idiot wants what the Democrats have planned.
The Democrats are too full of themselves to not doing it, and too ignorant to avoid doing it.
It should be obvious to everyone the Democrats intend to eliminate the Constitution.
It should be obvious the Democrats are preparing for a large-scale war with the American people.
It should be obvious the Democrats' economic agenda will collapse the government.

Just connect the dots to predict the future.

I do believe we will fight another war over the principles of limited government and individual liberty in this country. The Democrats think so, too. That's why Janet Napolitano is buying more weaponry than 90 percent of the countries in the world have.
Dan

San Francisco, CA

#926139 Jun 17, 2013
Let Obama Boo Boo help you. He has a butt buster for you. You will never be the same.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#926140 Jun 17, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>And when they are done taking over that is all that will be left - unskilled people and people on limited budgets
Hopefully I will be dead by then.
Walmart is destroying this great nation.
US manufacturing is largely unable to compete on the world market, with the exception of certain higher-technology products. Walmart really has nothing to do with this, because smaller retailers also buy from the smae foreign suppliers.

So, how does Homer plan to persuade Americans to pay higher prices for American-made products...if they can find them?

By the way, "immigration reform" will flood the US with even more unskilled people.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#926141 Jun 17, 2013
DBWriter wrote:
<quoted text>
2008 economic collapse was caused by the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing mortgage underwriting program. Here's the history, moron:
1999 Clinton coerces Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to institute nation-wide a subprime loan program for people who cannot possibly pay the loans.
2003 the Republicans give to the Democrats no effective oversight of their Marxist subprime program in exchange for the Democrats supporting the war in Iraq.
January, 2007, Democrats take over all oversight of the institutions that were most instrumental in the economic collapse. The lies from Democrats Dodd and Frank after this oversight began are too numerous to list in a post limited to 4000 words.
After 2 years of oversight by Democrats, the Democrats' Marxist subprime housing loan program collapsed the economy.
Now, do you have another question about the recent history of the United States?
lol! You're such an idiot son.
Scarlet Pimpernel

Bronx, NY

#926142 Jun 17, 2013
OBAMA has been coached but he still cant get it right without his cheatscreens ahhhhhh I ahhhhhh hummmm arummmmmmm aaaaaaaa welcome to Ireland land of my ancestors aaaaaaaahum,mmmmm my father was a dead beat dad thats why I dont care for men that look like him I get on better with people that look like the people THAT RAISED AND NURTURED ME aaaaaaaaa thank you GRANDMA even though you were a bigot you were right aaaaaaaahummmmmm thanks GRANDAD you taught me how to be a GOOD MAN aaaaaaaaa thats it for fathers day
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#926143 Jun 17, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
The Bush administration looking into two large organizations is nothing to even sneeze at.
Maybe you should look into who Clinton went after. O'Reilly alone was audited 3 times under Clinton.
Even Clinton's targeting pales in comparison to the number of individuals and small groups, not to mention the larger ones, who were not only denied tax exemption under the law but were grilled gestapo-style by the FBI wanting names and addresses of their associates, what they said in their prayers and what material they read.
We're not in Kansas anymore, Tenzing. Time you figured that out.
So... are you claiming Clinton ordered it?

What's your source, son?

Or are you blowing your personal smoke again?
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#926144 Jun 17, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, people have been saying we should start preparing for the worst - people who should know. Marshall Law has been brought up a few times if and when the dollar collapses...more like when.
But I hope not...if that means anything.
martial law
NJ raider 1

Washington, DC

#926145 Jun 17, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, actually his father was Kenyan. But Obama spent his young life growing up in Indonesia from 1967 to 1971...his "impressionabe" years.
His father was definitely Muslim. And didn't Obama write in his book that his Indonesian step-father followed "a brand of Islam"?
And isn't Islam the dominant religion in Indonesia which also has the largest Muslim population than any other country in the world?
I believe he did and, yes, it is.
But I'm sure Obama was not influenced by his father's or his step-father's or his Indonesian Muslim roots.
You just give muslims a bad name regardless of facts or rationality. Given the fact that I'm from a Christian country (America), & my father, his father, & mother are all preachers,(I didn't name Aunts, Uncles, & Cousins), who all followed the same path but, by your logic, I should be Christian but, I'm not! I'm no religion. I believe in good & evil, God & the Devil, spirit & mind, knowledge & ignorance! You name what religion his father & step father was but, never mention what religion the people that raised him was, his mother & grand parents!

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