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Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#925227 Jun 15, 2013
lily boca raton fl wrote:
<quoted text>
Great idea. This is a similar model to universal single payer healthcare paid through taxation. The insurance companies should be eliminated completely, they're not necessary.
You're an idiot Lily. This has nothing in any wau shape or form gle payer. This is about a family and their doctor deciding everything about their health care. Not some government program or insurance contract.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#925228 Jun 15, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Give us a source, one that includes rent, administrative overhead, and all benefits, including pensions, for government employees.
Then compare medical facility costs for government insurance plans versus private insurance plans.
Medicare is very efficient. Galt too stupid to research this on his own.

Galt says medical facility costs differ depending on what insurance the patient has. I guess they bring in cheaper help for Medicare patients? Maybe the use less expensive bandaids?

Galt tot too bright.
GOPIdiots

Fort Lauderdale, FL

#925229 Jun 15, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> Galt the soothsayer thinks he can tell fortunes better than Madame Marie. I suggest that he look at reality rather than bizarre figments of his own imagination.
Nobama has a perfect 100% record of being wrong in his predictions.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#925230 Jun 15, 2013
OBAMA the GENIUS wrote:
<quoted text>
INSURANCE COMPANIES DENY COVERAGE FOR MILLIONS!
they say: No. You can't buy insurance. Pre existing condition. You are a woman who had a c section. No.
That is why we passed a law!
Democrats fixed this mess.
Republicans like you are so stupid!
Get on board with the majority: Democrats!
The majority oppose Obamacare, so welcome aboard.

"In this update of figures published in March 2012, CBO and JCT now estimate that fewer people will be covered by the Medicai
d program, more people will obtain health insurance through the newly established exchanges, and MORE people will be UNINSURED."

http://cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/a...
Whatever

Gering, NE

#925231 Jun 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Medicare is very efficient. Galt too stupid to research this on his own.
Galt says medical facility costs differ depending on what insurance the patient has. I guess they bring in cheaper help for Medicare patients? Maybe the use less expensive bandaids?
Galt tot too bright.
" In 2005, for example, Robert Book has shown that private insurers spent $453 per beneficiary on administrative costs, compared to $509 for Medicare.(Indeed, Robert has written the definitive paper on this subject, from which the above figure is taken.)"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/06/30/t...
Whatever

Gering, NE

#925232 Jun 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
Iran. We can bring about changes in foreign government leadership without invading it.
This comes as a total shock to the right whiners.
Just conduct an illegal war like Libya?

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#925233 Jun 15, 2013
Whatever wrote:
<quoted text>
" In 2005, for example, Robert Book has shown that private insurers spent $453 per beneficiary on administrative costs, compared to $509 for Medicare.(Indeed, Robert has written the definitive paper on this subject, from which the above figure is taken.)"
http://www.forbes.com/sites/aroy/2011/06/30/t...
"The empirical analysis presented in this study suggests strongly that the real economic cost of delivering health-insurance benefits under a single-payer system would be substantially greater—at a minimum, roughly double—than that under the current private system."
http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/mpr_0...
As I've said all along. There is not enough money on the planet to pay for single payer. There is not enough money to pay for Obamacare either, as we are finding out.
Lincoln

United States

#925234 Jun 15, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Trasnslation: Putin threatened to install Russian anti-aircraft missiles and Obama backed down.
No!

Since: May 13

Location hidden

#925235 Jun 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> As I've said all along. There is not enough money on the planet to pay for single payer. There is not enough money to pay for Obamacare either, as we are finding out.
Do you have any idea how boring it is to listen to you whine about everything you're against?
Are you FOR emergency room health care service for the uninsured? Do you believe that is a cheaper way to care for these people? Or, should we just let them die?

Since: Feb 08

Spokane, WA

#925238 Jun 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
Iran. We can bring about changes in foreign government leadership without invading it.
This comes as a total shock to the right whiners.
"real dumb"
What changes do you foresee? Please list them. Hopefully president nobama will not start easing the restrictions. Also hopefully if he tries to the congress will thwart his efforts. The president of Iran doe not set policy that is the job of ayatollah ali khameni and the ruling clerics.
Please advice us as to what president nobama did to bring about the change.
Peace
KMA

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#925239 Jun 15, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
Medicare is very efficient. Galt too stupid to research this on his own.
Galt says medical facility costs differ depending on what insurance the patient has. I guess they bring in cheaper help for Medicare patients? Maybe the use less expensive bandaids?
Galt tot too bright.
Yeah, that's why it's $85 trillion in the hole Try again!!!

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#925240 Jun 15, 2013
Emaen wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any idea how boring it is to listen to you whine about everything you're against?
Are you FOR emergency room health care service for the uninsured? Do you believe that is a cheaper way to care for these people? Or, should we just let them die?
Then take a hike nutsack! Nobody cares what you think anyway.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#925241 Jun 15, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
The IRS are "the thieves, con men, and usury moneylenders."
Have you checked your Citi-Bank interest charges on your credit card lately?:-D

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#925242 Jun 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> As I've said all along. There is not enough money on the planet to pay for single payer. There is not enough money to pay for Obamacare either, as we are finding out.
Of course,there is ,if you understand that the human economy works like any other living web of inter-relationships between people, material things, and other living life forms within the constraints of the dynamic closed system of Earth. "In 2009, Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley adopted the Genuine Progress Indicator (GPI) as a new measure of economic well being in the state. CSE and Refining Progress pioneered the GPI's latest iteration, which Maryland now uses. Together with Institute for Policy Studies, CSE used Maryland's GPI to address the issue of inequality. In Maryland, as elsewhere, inequality of wealth, income, and opportunity has been steadily increasing for decades and thwarting genuine economic progress in many ways. Our analysis asked the question: "If Maryland returned to a level of income equity achieved in 1968 - its historical best - how would that affect the GPI?" Our analysis found that a return to a level of income equity achieved in the late 1960s would have the effect of doubling the average household income of the lowest quintile from $15,000 to nearly $30,000 and generating nearly $49 billion in economic benefits to the state each year in terms of increases in the value of personal consumption expenditures. We also found that additional spending by low and middle-income families could add another $10 billion. " Check this out: http://www.sustainable-economy.org/main/news/...
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#925243 Jun 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> You're an idiot Lily. This has nothing in any wau shape or form gle payer. This is about a family and their doctor deciding everything about their health care. Not some government program or insurance contract.
Dream on Flacko, a family and their doctor? Marcus Welby MD? C'mon, get your head out of your azz.

The first time a family member is referred to a specialist, the game changes. A lady college softballer with a case of staph quickly gets an infectious disease specialist and a private room__$17,500 disappears before the sun goes down and then it starts getting real expensive because MRSA lingers in college sports locker rooms.

You're a foolish man! Really!

Type in "staph infection college sports" for a look see.
Patriot

Brighton, CO

#925244 Jun 15, 2013
Another severe weather outbreak .. Missouri, Kansas, and Oklahoma..

Storms are moving East by Northeast.. hail and damaging winds .. also watch for possible tornadoes.

http://www.weather.com/weather/map/interactiv...

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#925245 Jun 15, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>Of course,there is ,if you understand that the human economy works like any other living web of inter-relationships between people, material things, and other living life forms within the constraints of the dynamic closed system of Earth. "In 2009, Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley adopted the Genuine Progress Indicator (GPI) as a new measure of economic well being in the state. CSE and Refining Progress pioneered the GPI's latest iteration, which Maryland now uses. Together with Institute for Policy Studies, CSE used Maryland's GPI to address the issue of inequality. In Maryland, as elsewhere, inequality of wealth, income, and opportunity has been steadily increasing for decades and thwarting genuine economic progress in many ways. Our analysis asked the question: "If Maryland returned to a level of income equity achieved in 1968 - its historical best - how would that affect the GPI?" Our analysis found that a return to a level of income equity achieved in the late 1960s would have the effect of doubling the average household income of the lowest quintile from $15,000 to nearly $30,000 and generating nearly $49 billion in economic benefits to the state each year in terms of increases in the value of personal consumption expenditures. We also found that additional spending by low and middle-income families could add another $10 billion. " Check this out: http://www.sustainable-economy.org/main/news/...
"Genuine Progress Indicator"????

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....hila rious stuff?

Those people in Maryland have a wry sense of Socialist humor, I must say.

Genuine Progress Indicator!!!

Muddying the water with more Socialist Flotsam really ties up the neurons of Marylanders, I'm sure.

Genuine Progress Indicator!!! I'm send this to all my friends.

Hilariously entertaining! Thanks!

“My Life Is A Shell Game”

Since: May 07

Lapeer, MI

#925246 Jun 15, 2013
Emaen wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have any idea how boring it is to listen to you whine about everything you're against?
Are you FOR emergency room health care service for the uninsured? Do you believe that is a cheaper way to care for these people? Or, should we just let them die?
Or, should we just let them die?

It depends if they're illegal Mexicans or Americans.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#925247 Jun 15, 2013
flack wrote:
<quoted text> Yeah, that's why it's $85 trillion in the hole Try again!!!
1) First of al;, whether it is filly funded, solvent or bankrupt had anything to do with efficiency.
2) Medicare is currently solvent.
3) To expect that we have money in an account to pay for all future costs of social security and medicare for each & every American is too ridiculous

Efficiency is a measurement of your output with consideration to your input in time & expense. you could be he most efficient manufacturer of widgets but if you can't sell enough widgets to meet your expenses, you will go bankrupt.

To claim that SS & Medicare are in the hole because of future obligations is just plain dishonest.

I realize that you sit there if figure " Lets see, I'll probably be utilizing the cable service until I die in another 40 years, so I need to add 40 x 12 x $70 to my debt. Next you figure electric, phone, gasoline, etc. How much are you in the hole? What? You don't have money in the bank right now to pay for everything until you die?

Since: Oct 08

Location hidden

#925248 Jun 15, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>And only cons would blame the president when there's nothing there.
It's SOP!
Only you wouldn't see what's right in front of you..

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