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sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#915957 May 31, 2013
are you joking or stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
I doubt a second one would do you much good.
no, that was electroshock 'therapy' after watching FOX for 5 minutes.

or maybe it was watching FOX for 5 minutes was electroshock therapy. let me ask carol since her lack of memory acuity would seem to indicate some experience.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#915958 May 31, 2013
Americans are still worth half of what they were worth 5 years ago. American wealth is still half of what it was 5 years ago.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#915959 May 31, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text>You still hate paying your taxes,deadbeat.
Every sane individual hates paying taxes.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#915960 May 31, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Why GOP Scandal Mongers Canít Have Nice Things
As Bill Clinton and John Edwards and various others have made clear, Democrats do have scandals. Plenty of them actually. But here we have another good example of why Republicans so often have bad luck these days with bogus scandals theyíre so hyped up about or ones that actually are legitimate scandals but which get overrun by so much hysterical nonsense that the actual scandal gets forgotten amidst a lava-like deluge of The Crazy. In a few words, most of the right-wing press is just astonishingly bad.
Hereís todayís example. Yesterday I heard word on Twitter that ex-IRS Chief Douglas Shulman had visited the White House a whopping 157 times. The story started at The Daily Caller. Itís not totally clear whether that was whopping or sub-whopping. But whatever. Clearly Shulman was there often enough to be in regular contact with President Obama about cracking down on the West Memphis Tea Party. When I first saw my usual twitter trolls yapping about it, the first thing that seemed a bit off was that, remember, Shulman was actually appointed by George W. Bush and remained in office through most of President Obamaís first term. So presumably heís not a really strong Democratic partisan.
But now a real reporter (in this case my old friend Garance Franke-Ruta) has looked past the toplines of the White House visitor logs and done frankly just the very basic due diligence that any reporter would do when reporting out a story like this. There are a few problems with the story. First, why on Earth would Shulman need to visit the White House 157 times except to crack down on the Tea Party and other American Patriots? Well, it turns out thereís this thing conservatives have never heard of called OBAMACARE, which actually relies a fair amount on the IRS for implementation.
Take it away Garance Ö
The public meeting schedules available for review to any media outlet show that very thing: Shulman was cleared primarily to meet with administration staffers involved in implementation of the health-care reform bill. He was cleared 40 times to meet with Obamaís director of the Office of Health Reform, and a further 80 times for the biweekly health reform deputies meetings and others set up by aides involved with the health-care law implementation efforts. Thatís 76 percent of his planned White House visits just there, before you even add in all the meetings with Office of Management and Budget personnel also involved in health reform.
But it gets better. Those 157 visits? Those are times he was Ďclearedí to visit the White House. The logs only show he actually showed up 11 times. Itís quite possible that the records missed a couple visits. But it seems likely that the story - which originated at The Daily Caller - was off by about ten fold.
Now, this isnít an indictment of conservative journalists. There are so many great ones like Byron York or my friend Eli Lake. But as a group, the standards of most institutional right wing journalism are just so appallingly bad that their stories simply arenít credible.(Iíd note that Lake works at either nonpartisan or slightly-progressive leaning pub.) Of course there are exceptions like the Menendez phony escort story. Which, wait, that ended up being a hoax enabled by appalling shoddy reporting standards. Again, if you wonder why conservative scandal mongers canít have nice things Ö look at the conservative media.
Also, try finding real scandals.
http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives...
it probably worse than that. IMO its not that conservative journalists don't do their due diligence when reporting a story. I believe they purposely omit anything that doesn't support their conclusion/propaganda.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#915961 May 31, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
Any homebuyer who lacks the intelligence to read and understand a mortgage document before signing should hire an attorney to explain the terms to him.
Homer not an attorney, but I'm sure I can help you. What do you need?

I sold my house and the title company handled the closing, the buyer's realtor tried to collect commision as both the seller's and buyer's commission. Since I had no realtor and sold the house on my own, no seller's commission was applicable. I stared down the realtor and said we agreed you would get 2 1/2 percent commission as the buyer's realtor, to which she replied oh yes my bad. They are all sneaky, needless to say the title company redid all the numbers.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#915962 May 31, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
The problem is no one is "entitled" to a sense of empowerment under any circumstances or for any reason.
Even if they DO think we're ALL stupid enough to believe it.
I place the blame for empowering these liberals squarely at the doorstep of the liberal media who became their most useful tools and useful idiots to create even more of them.
The proof is right here on this thread.
But, you're saying that it is right for the Scalia 5 Supreme Court to grant self empowerment to Corporations in CitizensUnited.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#915963 May 31, 2013
flack wrote:
Hundreds of thousands of US soldiers water boarded during regular training but we water board three terrorists who killed Americans to discover information and all hell breaks loose from the loons!!!
It has been proven time and again that waterboarding does not produce reliable intel.
sonicfilter

Indianapolis, IN

#915964 May 31, 2013
are you joking or stupid wrote:
<quoted text>
The hell you say! The same IRS that was targeting conservatives dropped a case being brought by conservatives against liberals????
Here let me tell you a funny......"you thought that was actually some sort of proof of something bad AGAINST the Republicans"
The NAACP criticized the IRS for taking nearly two years to complete the investigation, conducted under a "fast-track" process the IRS established in 2004 and continues to use in 2006. IRS letter states the agency was able to complete its investigation by watching a video of Bond's speech, noting that the "video footage allowed the Service to gain information regarding the context in which Mr. Bond's speech was made."

Bond, however, called the IRS's justification for its delay "dishonest and disingenuous," noting that the video and full text of the speech had been available on the NAACP website throughout the investigation and that no new evidence had emerged.

http://www.foreffectivegov.org/node/2281

speaking of proof.....in that case, and as usual, proof won the day despite republican insinuations.

any idea of when FOX 'proof' will ever win the day?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#915965 May 31, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Mitt went one for four in politics and quit his one and only seat.
Republicans seem to be quitting while others are becoming Independents and/or Democrats, getting far away from the rightwing base as possible.

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#915966 May 31, 2013
John Galt wrote:
<quoted text>
That is a flat-out bald -faced lie.
Those are the folks, particularly the younger ones, who will experience the greatest premium increases.
It happens to be the truth. But since you never had to buy insurance as an individual, you would not know.
Realtime

Deltona, FL

#915967 May 31, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Why GOP Scandal Mongers Canít Have Nice Things
As Bill Clinton and John Edwards and various others have made clear, Democrats do have scandals. Plenty of them actually. But here we have another good example of why Republicans so often have bad luck these days with bogus scandals theyíre so hyped up about or ones that actually are legitimate scandals but which get overrun by so much hysterical nonsense that the actual scandal gets forgotten amidst a lava-like deluge of The Crazy. In a few words, most of the right-wing press is just astonishingly bad.
Hereís todayís example. Yesterday I heard word on Twitter that ex-IRS Chief Douglas Shulman had visited the White House a whopping 157 times. The story started at The Daily Caller. Itís not totally clear whether that was whopping or sub-whopping. But whatever. Clearly Shulman was there often enough to be in regular contact with President Obama about cracking down on the West Memphis Tea Party. When I first saw my usual twitter trolls yapping about it, the first thing that seemed a bit off was that, remember, Shulman was actually appointed by George W. Bush and remained in office through most of President Obamaís first term. So presumably heís not a really strong Democratic partisan.
But now a real reporter (in this case my old friend Garance Franke-Ruta) has looked past the toplines of the White House visitor logs and done frankly just the very basic due diligence that any reporter would do when reporting out a story like this. There are a few problems with the story. First, why on Earth would Shulman need to visit the White House 157 times except to crack down on the Tea Party and other American Patriots? Well, it turns out thereís this thing conservatives have never heard of called OBAMACARE, which actually relies a fair amount on the IRS for implementation.
Take it away Garance Ö
The public meeting schedules available for review to any media outlet show that very thing: Shulman was cleared primarily to meet with administration staffers involved in implementation of the health-care reform bill. He was cleared 40 times to meet with Obamaís director of the Office of Health Reform, and a further 80 times for the biweekly health reform deputies meetings and others set up by aides involved with the health-care law implementation efforts. Thatís 76 percent of his planned White House visits just there, before you even add in all the meetings with Office of Management and Budget personnel also involved in health reform.
But it gets better. Those 157 visits? Those are times he was Ďclearedí to visit the White House. The logs only show he actually showed up 11 times. Itís quite possible that the records missed a couple visits. But it seems likely that the story - which originated at The Daily Caller - was off by about ten fold.
Now, this isnít an indictment of conservative journalists. There are so many great ones like Byron York or my friend Eli Lake. But as a group, the standards of most institutional right wing journalism are just so appallingly bad that their stories simply arenít credible.(Iíd note that Lake works at either nonpartisan or slightly-progressive leaning pub.) Of course there are exceptions like the Menendez phony escort story. Which, wait, that ended up being a hoax enabled by appalling shoddy reporting standards. Again, if you wonder why conservative scandal mongers canít have nice things Ö look at the conservative media.
Also, try finding real scandals.
http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives...
Tucker Carlson is not above telling or allowing a whopper here and there. LOL.

no mas pantalones
Florida

Seminole, FL

#915968 May 31, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
<quoted text>
The NAACP criticized the IRS for taking nearly two years to complete the investigation, conducted under a "fast-track" process the IRS established in 2004 and continues to use in 2006. IRS letter states the agency was able to complete its investigation by watching a video of Bond's speech, noting that the "video footage allowed the Service to gain information regarding the context in which Mr. Bond's speech was made."
Bond, however, called the IRS's justification for its delay "dishonest and disingenuous," noting that the video and full text of the speech had been available on the NAACP website throughout the investigation and that no new evidence had emerged.
http://www.foreffectivegov.org/node/2281
speaking of proof.....in that case, and as usual, proof won the day despite republican insinuations.
any idea of when FOX 'proof' will ever win the day?
Your addiction and obsession for FoxNews is an ardent interest of pursuit you idiot... I wish someone had an answer to your deranged addiction you fool.
Throwing money at it would be like throwing Crack at an addict and telling them to go away. You fool always come back for more and blame others for your inane addiction... LMFAO

In short sonicfiller, the the Obama administration has criminalized the news-gathering process...

The IRS will be obama's undoing with deep shit on the horizon for obama you idiot and all you can do is rag on Bush and look like an idiot you moron..

Defending the IRS and a sellout obama is an excellent campaign strategy you idiot, recommended for all democrats you fool.

It's the culture...
are you joking or stupid

Coffeyville, KS

#915969 May 31, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
The threat was if Syria used the chemical weapons.
We don't have confirmation.
Quit being such a GD ass. Its your party pushing for military action, not Obama. So quit lying & grow the f*ck up.
Furthermore, Try a course in anatomy sometime & learn that males have balls from birth.
Talk about "on the edge".....

Defending your balls because all males have them from birth.
Accusing others of telling lies.
telling others to "stop being such a GD ass"

Yep, you're just hanging on aren't you? The truth is bringing to light all the things that you have wanted to stay in the dark and didn't want to face nor let others see, and it's all coming out!!!

You sure sound like you are just getting mad because that pesty truth stuff is coming out and it's not looking good for Obama.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#915970 May 31, 2013
sonicfilter wrote:
Why GOP Scandal Mongers Canít Have Nice Things
As Bill Clinton and John Edwards and various others have made clear, Democrats do have scandals. Plenty of them actually. But here we have another good example of why Republicans so often have bad luck these days with bogus scandals theyíre so hyped up about or ones that actually are legitimate scandals but which get overrun by so much hysterical nonsense that the actual scandal gets forgotten amidst a lava-like deluge of The Crazy. In a few words, most of the right-wing press is just astonishingly bad.
Hereís todayís example. Yesterday I heard word on Twitter that ex-IRS Chief Douglas Shulman had visited the White House a whopping 157 times. The story started at The Daily Caller. Itís not totally clear whether that was whopping or sub-whopping. But whatever. Clearly Shulman was there often enough to be in regular contact with President Obama about cracking down on the West Memphis Tea Party. When I first saw my usual twitter trolls yapping about it, the first thing that seemed a bit off was that, remember, Shulman was actually appointed by George W. Bush and remained in office through most of President Obamaís first term. So presumably heís not a really strong Democratic partisan.
But now a real reporter (in this case my old friend Garance Franke-Ruta) has looked past the toplines of the White House visitor logs and done frankly just the very basic due diligence that any reporter would do when reporting out a story like this. There are a few problems with the story. First, why on Earth would Shulman need to visit the White House 157 times except to crack down on the Tea Party and other American Patriots? Well, it turns out thereís this thing conservatives have never heard of called OBAMACARE, which actually relies a fair amount on the IRS for implementation.
Take it away Garance Ö
The public meeting schedules available for review to any media outlet show that very thing: Shulman was cleared primarily to meet with administration staffers involved in implementation of the health-care reform bill. He was cleared 40 times to meet with Obamaís director of the Office of Health Reform, and a further 80 times for the biweekly health reform deputies meetings and others set up by aides involved with the health-care law implementation efforts. Thatís 76 percent of his planned White House visits just there, before you even add in all the meetings with Office of Management and Budget personnel also involved in health reform.
But it gets better. Those 157 visits? Those are times he was Ďclearedí to visit the White House. The logs only show he actually showed up 11 times. Itís quite possible that the records missed a couple visits. But it seems likely that the story - which originated at The Daily Caller - was off by about ten fold.
Now, this isnít an indictment of conservative journalists. There are so many great ones like Byron York or my friend Eli Lake. But as a group, the standards of most institutional right wing journalism are just so appallingly bad that their stories simply arenít credible.(Iíd note that Lake works at either nonpartisan or slightly-progressive leaning pub.) Of course there are exceptions like the Menendez phony escort story. Which, wait, that ended up being a hoax enabled by appalling shoddy reporting standards. Again, if you wonder why conservative scandal mongers canít have nice things Ö look at the conservative media.
Also, try finding real scandals.
http://editors.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives...
foxnews.com had this as their lead/breaking story most of the day yesterday complete with a chart of all the visits. Naturally the rightwingers took it an ran with it, the facts be damned.
Florida

Seminole, FL

#915971 May 31, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>It has been proven time and again that waterboarding does not produce reliable intel.
Neither do drones...

Obama: My administration does not torture. We kill..

It's the culture...
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#915972 May 31, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Homer not an attorney, but I'm sure I can help you. What do you need?
I sold my house and the title company handled the closing, the buyer's realtor tried to collect commision as both the seller's and buyer's commission. Since I had no realtor and sold the house on my own, no seller's commission was applicable. I stared down the realtor and said we agreed you would get 2 1/2 percent commission as the buyer's realtor, to which she replied oh yes my bad. They are all sneaky, needless to say the title company redid all the numbers.
That should have been spelled out in the sales agreement, which Homer certainly read before signing. The title company screwed up if they included a commission not specified in the agreement.

By the way, as Homer knows, all the so-called "standard" real estate documents are subject to negotiation. If you see something in a listing agreement or sale agreement that you don't like, make an objection. Many times a change can be made.

Galt estimates that a large majority of home buyers and sellers never read the documents.

Since: Apr 09

Elmont, Long Island NY

#915973 May 31, 2013
flack wrote:
Hundreds of thousands of US soldiers water boarded during regular training but we water board three terrorists who killed Americans to discover information and all hell breaks loose from the loons!!!
as with anything, context is important. There are somewhat subtle differences

U.S. servicemen subjected to waterboarding were not held by the enemy.
U.S. servicemen subjected to waterboarding were only subjected to it for a very short duration and just once, so that they would know what to expect.

Being held in captivity by your enemy makes a big difference, something you probably don't have the mental capacity to understand. You have no control. In training exercises, besides knowing your captors personally, and knowing you are all on the same side, you also know you will only be waterboarded for a short time.

as opposed to being waterboarded by people hostile to you for an unknown amount of time.

waterboarding is torture. we are suppose to be above that. I don't care how the enemy conducts itself. we can't control that. what we can do is behave in accordance with our beliefs, our morals and our ethics. sorry if you are too chickens*%$ to behave like an American.

go read the Constitution, does the phrase no cruel and unusual punishment ring a bell.

Why don't you go study American History and see how we treated Axis POW's.
or how we tried and convicted Japanese officers/NCO's for waterboarding (torturing) American POW's.

How we treat our prisoners is a true reflection of our society of how we hold our beliefs
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#915974 May 31, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> But, you're saying that it is right for the Scalia 5 Supreme Court to grant self empowerment to Corporations in CitizensUnited.
yes
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#915975 May 31, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>Republicans seem to be quitting while others are becoming Independents and/or Democrats, getting far away from the rightwing base as possible.
Homer should check the number of Democrat Senators retiring in 2014.
John Galt

Temecula, CA

#915976 May 31, 2013
RealDave wrote:
<quoted text>
It happens to be the truth. But since you never had to buy insurance as an individual, you would not know.
Individuals who purchase insurance on their own, particularly younger individuals, will pay much higher rates next year under Obamacare.

Moochers with little or no income who suck off the taxpayers may have their premiums subsidized, creating the false impression of lower premiums.

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