Barack Obama, our next President

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John Galt

Temecula, CA

#910825 May 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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B*llshyt....I suggest you check laws
Lerner’s lawyer, William W. Taylor, adamantly disagreed.“The law is clear that a witness does not waive her Fifth Amendment rights not to testify as to facts by asserting that she is innocent of the wrongdoing with which she is accused,” he wrote in an e-mail.
In an interview, Taylor said Lerner’s comments—which gave a thumbnail sketch of her division’s operation and the two investigations it has spurred in the offices of the Treasury inspector general and FBI — didn’t delve into the facts.“It simply said,‘This is what you guys accused me of, I’m not guilty of it.’”
http://news.yahoo.com/irs-official-fifth-amen...
ames Duane, a Fifth Amendment expert at Regent University, explained to New York magazine why Lerner was within her rights.(Duane made his comments after the hearing ended and before Issa made his announcement.)
“When [someone is] involuntarily summoned before grand jury or before legislative body, it is well settled that they have a right to make a ‘selective invocation,’ as it’s called, with respect to questions that they think might raise a meaningful risk of incriminating themselves,” Duane said.
He also believes that “even if Ms. Lerner had given answers to a few questions — five, ten, twenty questions — before she decided,‘That’s where I draw the line, I’m not answering any more questions,’ she would be able to do that as well.”
That theory will now get tested, since Issa indicated he may call Lerner back to testify again, without the ability to cite the Fifth Amendment.
Stan Brand, a former general counsel for the House of Representatives, told Politico that Lerner could have an issue if she waived her rights in prior appearances before Congress.
Prior to Lerner’s appearance, her attorney, William W. Taylor III, wrote to Issa and explained why his client was taking the Fifth Amendment.
Taylor said that prior claims by Issa that Lerner had provided misleading information to Congress on four occasions left his client without another option.
“She has not committed any crime or made any misrepresentation but under the circumstances she has no choice but to take this course,” Taylor said.
but not to worry, as I sure this will come up against a judge
Harvard professor Alan Dershowitz said Wednesday that Lois Lerner, the IRS official who oversaw exempt organizations during the admitted targeting of conservative political groups, could be held in contempt and even go to jail after her appearance at a congressional hearing earlier in the day.

Lerner made a brief opening statement — insisting she had "done nothing wrong" — before invoking her Fifth Amendment right not to incriminate herself. Some legal scholars, including Dershowitz, have said that in giving the opening statement, Lerner may have waived her Fifth Amendment protections.

"She's in trouble. She can be held in contempt," Dershowitz told "the Steve Malzberg Show" on Newsmax TV. "Congress ... can actually hold you in contempt and put you in the Congressional jail."

Dershowitz, who helped advise O.J. Simpson's defense team, said Lerner "should never have been allowed" to make her opening statement.

"You can't simply make statements about a subject and then plead the Fifth in response to questions about the very same subject," Dershowitz said. "Once you open the door to an area of inquiry, you have waived your Fifth Amendment right... you've waived your self-incrimination right on that subject matter."

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/n...

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#910826 May 24, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Obama is President now and his crimes affect us, not ancient history.
First ; you have to prove that there were 'crimes' which has already proved to be an impossibility.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910827 May 24, 2013
Realtime wrote:
<quoted text>Correct, she was forced to plead the fifth, Issa already knew she would and had his little ditty prepared. One he dismissed her the first time she should have continued along on way out rather than return simply to her the mutt from South Carolina talk sht and then be excused by Issa again.
South Carolina has some real doozies serving in congress eh?
That crap pulled by the SC rep was purely to embarrass her, that was sickening. The SC rep is a disgrace to to his office, the good people of SC, and to the American people in general.

My respone to him would have been GFY, I have pleaded the 5th, want no part of your witch hunt and I am outta here.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910828 May 24, 2013
Clearly the goal of Republicans/Rigthwingers is not to get to any 'truth', it's to try and embarrass and disparage this president.

They make me sick.

Since: Apr 13

Orlando, FL

#910829 May 24, 2013
Homer wrote:
Rightwing Rasmussen reports has Obama's approval back on the upswing, back up to 49% according to them.
You just can't keep a good man down.
According to a recent CNN poll, 59% approve of the GOP's handling of these scandals.

59% say that the U.S government could have prevented the attack in Benghazi. 59% also say the GOP reacted appropriately.

It's the same story on the IRS controversy. 54% say the GOP in Congress has not overplayed its hand.

The more Obama is implicated in the IRS coverup, the more his numbers will drop.

Only the clueless who voted for him both times and who have no idea what's going on will continue to think the emperor is still wearing clothes. And skip to the bank with their welfare checks.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910830 May 24, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Obama is President now and his crimes affect us, not ancient history.
What crimes has he committed?

Since: May 11

Newville, PA

#910831 May 24, 2013
How stupid is the Tea Party?

Thev file for a tax exempt status reserved for non profit organization that advocate for social issues. Their main concern cannot be politics.

So these dumbasses in the Tea Party apply for this status using the name "Tea Party ThIs" or Tea Party that"

They announce their political agenda & then cry about it when the IRS sees this & knows they may not qualify.

Then the dumbasses whine to Congress & the Whiner-in -chief Issa jumps in to start yet another investigation.

This is just how stupid the Tea Party is.

“Come Home America!”

Since: Nov 11

Claymont, Delaware 19809

#910832 May 24, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou , I suggest that if you are going to cite the 9/11 Commission Report then you ought to better quote the people who were responsible for preparing the report, Lee Hamilton and Thomas McKean(A Republican and Democrat)
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton did not hold your naive notion of Bush43 'great assistance'. "Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton must have been waiting all holiday long to launch this grenade against the Administration just as Congress returns and the torture tape inquiry heats up.
MORE than five years ago, Congress and President Bush created the 9/11 commission.
[snip]
The commission’s mandate was sweeping and it explicitly included the intelligence agencies. But the recent revelations that the C.I.A. destroyed videotaped interrogations of Qaeda operatives leads us to conclude that the agency failed to respond to our lawful requests for information about the 9/11 plot. Those who knew about those videotapes — and did not tell us about them — obstructed our investigation." ..."Of note, Kean and Hamilton clearly include the White House among those who obstructed the Commission’s work.
There could have been absolutely no doubt in the mind of anyone at the C.I.A.— or the White House — of the commission’s interest in any and all information related to Qaeda detainees involved in the 9/11 plot. Yet no one in the administration ever told the commission of the existence of videotapes of detainee interrogations." Check this out: http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2008/01/02/...

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#910833 May 24, 2013
frontporchreactionary wrote:
<quoted text> Clinton pursued, arrested , convicted, and imprisoned for life in U S SuperMax jails all of the key terrorists in the 1993 WTC garage bombing within 2 years of the attack and did not , like Bush43 did, launch a 12 year counterinsurgency war in Iraq and Afghanistan that they never won.
why did O'bama lose the war in Iraq? and now you are telling us that he is going to lose the war in Afghanistan? why is he still there if he plans on losing?
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910834 May 24, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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Lerner will be called back again.
But please provide proof of your ridiculous claim she was "forced" to do anything.
Lerner became the star of her own production. Issa and Boehner just let her bomb on her own.
She makes herself look foolish by being called back again.
Is there no limit to the liberals' depths of denial?
So she's calling herself back?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#910835 May 24, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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The Fifth Amendment is not selective.
Lois Lerner's performance is like Jody Arias testifying that she didn't kill her boyfriend and then pleading the Fifth when cross-examination started.
Her $1,000 per hour lawyer must have been sleeping.
But something like the 2nd is?

wow.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910836 May 24, 2013
Homer would never participate in any witch hunt.
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#910837 May 24, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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The 1930s (not 1930's) German guy is in the White House
Now answer the question:
"Just out of curiosity, what do you consider to be a straight down the middle, factual news source?"
Can't be son. That's 1930's German guy hated commies, socialists, democrats, etc....

You know, just like the right wing radicals in America!
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910838 May 24, 2013
RealDave wrote:
How stupid is the Tea Party?
Thev file for a tax exempt status reserved for non profit organization that advocate for social issues. Their main concern cannot be politics.
So these dumbasses in the Tea Party apply for this status using the name "Tea Party ThIs" or Tea Party that"
They announce their political agenda & then cry about it when the IRS sees this & knows they may not qualify.
Then the dumbasses whine to Congress & the Whiner-in -chief Issa jumps in to start yet another investigation.
This is just how stupid the Tea Party is.
So basically the IRS was just doing their jobs?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#910839 May 24, 2013
John Galt wrote:
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Stewie Leibowitz is a comedian, not a news person.
Oh I'm sorry.

You consider the beck-ster, rushie and others as valid 'news' sources then?

Thanks for making my point.
Homer

Bethlehem, PA

#910840 May 24, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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According to a recent CNN poll, 59% approve of the GOP's handling of these scandals.
59% say that the U.S government could have prevented the attack in Benghazi. 59% also say the GOP reacted appropriately.
It's the same story on the IRS controversy. 54% say the GOP in Congress has not overplayed its hand.
The more Obama is implicated in the IRS coverup, the more his numbers will drop.
Only the clueless who voted for him both times and who have no idea what's going on will continue to think the emperor is still wearing clothes. And skip to the bank with their welfare checks.
Same poll has Obama's approval at 53%. Why did you leave that out?
Yeah

Honolulu, HI

#910841 May 24, 2013
Aunt Bettie Lou wrote:
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Which is only going to heighten the already growing suspicion of his involvement even more.
It would be great if the grand finale were Obama firing them to save face and them spilling their guts because they were fired.
We can only dream.
bushie boy spilled the guts of thousands of American soldiers and tens of thousands of civilians...

... and he's still free.
Whatever

Gering, NE

#910842 May 24, 2013
Karma is a_______ wrote:
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geesh can't you get anything right
attack on Benghazi Sept 11, 2012
Osama bin Laden killed May 2 2011
I guess you're an idiot
You are totally clueless.

“Bill Clinton could have ”

Since: May 10

Prevented this

#910843 May 24, 2013
Homer wrote:
<quoted text>What crimes has he committed?
The Trinity United Murders.
No Surprize

Seminole, FL

#910844 May 24, 2013
Yeah wrote:
<quoted text>lol! You mean like birthers son?
Democrats and Hillary: We started the "birther" movement before we were against it..

Idiot retard liberals start and are the "proud parents" of the birther movement, sellout, then blame someone else because they're the idiots..

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